Line Portland -5.5, 215.5. Final score Portland 110-105 total 215. A half point either way decided a winner. Sharp as hell. This is why you can't win long term.
Last night's line was sharp as ever Portland/GS
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seaborneqSBR Posting Legend- 09-08-06
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#1Last night's line was sharp as ever Portland/GSTags: None -
eidolonSBR Hall of Famer
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#2I'm sure glad i had +5.5 and over. cash cash money
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fsugolfSBR Hall of Famer
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#3one game out of how many yesterday?Comment -
louisvillekidSBR Hall of Famer
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#4i got GS +6 very early in the evening. lucked out i guess, but it was tight though.Comment -
seaborneqSBR Posting Legend- 09-08-06
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#5If you look and study closely a majority of the lines are pretty darn near the actual outcome. I know you are trying to be a smart ass, but if you play and win consistently you will notice when the lines are damn near perfect.Originally posted by fsugolfone game out of how many yesterday?Comment -
Dank_FireSBR MVP
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#6I dont know how they do it....Pace and Temp data?? i wish i had those statsComment -
pats3peatSBR MVP- 10-23-05
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#7u can find pace and stuff data..nbastuffer.comOriginally posted by Dank_FireI dont know how they do it....Pace and Temp data?? i wish i had those stats
just because one total/side is accurate doesnt mean vegas is great
look at all the other game results heh.Comment -
Dank_FireSBR MVP
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#8Well, i doubt they are running low on cashOriginally posted by pats3peat
just because one total/side is accurate doesnt mean vegas is great
look at all the other game results heh.Comment -
seaborneqSBR Posting Legend- 09-08-06
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#9Books win on every bet, I hope you knew that. It is called Juice or Vig, whether the line is perfect or not.Originally posted by pats3peatu can find pace and stuff data..nbastuffer.com
just because one total/side is accurate doesnt mean vegas is great
look at all the other game results heh.Comment -
seaborneqSBR Posting Legend- 09-08-06
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#10You seem so confident and secure, why don't you post a few plays before the games start if vegas is oh so not great with the lines. Let's see how long it will take to empty your empty pockets.Originally posted by pats3peatu can find pace and stuff data..nbastuffer.com
just because one total/side is accurate doesnt mean vegas is great
look at all the other game results heh.Comment -
BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
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#11didnt know we had to bet every game on the boardComment -
tealishSBR MVP
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#12Yep, if you bet every single game, you will almost always lose out in the long run. But that's why you pick your spotsComment -
tealishSBR MVP
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#13^This guy gets itOriginally posted by BettingWizarddidnt know we had to bet every game on the boardComment -
BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
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#14plus, if you really think they are sharp on everything, why not do teasers and 2nd half bets on team losing at half?Comment -
sharpcatRestricted User
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#15This is the most uneducated statement I have ever seenOriginally posted by seaborneqBooks win on every bet, I hope you knew that. It is called Juice or Vig, whether the line is perfect or not.
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sharpcatRestricted User
- 12-19-09
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#16ND/WV o/u yesterday opened at 129 and the under got pounded, books dropped the line all the way down to 125 and still ended with 65% action on the under.
Final total=104
The books got crushed on this game and the original line was off by 25 pts.!!! so with 65% or better of the action on the under how did the books win money on this game???????Comment -
shoeboxRestricted User
- 11-26-08
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#17Originally posted by sharpcatThis is the most uneducated statement I have ever seen
They do with balanced action most of the time, thats why the line moves.Comment -
jayc88Restricted User
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#18lol the final score doesnt show you how sharp a line was,
this thread is a joke
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sharpcatRestricted User
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#19How did the books winning "every time" turn into "most of the time"?Originally posted by shoeboxThey do with balanced action most of the time, thats why the line moves.
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seaborneqSBR Posting Legend- 09-08-06
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#20So you are taking a one game sample too, and saying the books lost everything they owned based on one off line. I bet the books didn't have enough to even post lines for later games they were so crushed. All of them were crushed so badly. Boo hoo for the books for missing 1, ONE, line by 25 points. Also very educated.Originally posted by sharpcatND/WV o/u yesterday opened at 129 and the under got pounded, books dropped the line all the way down to 125 and still ended with 65% action on the under.
Final total=104
The books got crushed on this game and the original line was off by 25 pts.!!! so with 65% or better of the action on the under how did the books win money on this game???????Comment -
sharpcatRestricted User
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#21simply just pointing out how extremely flawed your reasoning for not being able to beat the books is by using 1 game which happened to land right on the spread as an example.Originally posted by seaborneqSo you are taking a one game sample too, and saying the books lost everything they owned based on one off line. I bet the books didn't have enough to even post lines for later games they were so crushed. All of them were crushed so badly. Boo hoo for the books for missing 1, ONE, line by 25 points. Also very educated.
considering that the probability of a push occurring is only 5%, roughly, means that 95% of the time the game is not going to land on a push, therefore meaning that there must be a winning side.
The books are almost guaranteed to come out ahead not on every single game but throughout the course of many games because of the vig, but this does not mean that you as a player can not come out ahead over the course of many games if you pick your spots carefully and find yourself on the winning side of these wagers 53% is all you need to make a profit.
Boo hoo if you are not capable of finding yourself on the winning side of wagers enough to profit, but to claim it as impossible because 5 games out of 100 landed on the spread is the outlook of a disgruntled loser.Comment -
TsopranoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#22Would of liked to get the Over 215 inComment -
sharpcatRestricted User
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#23Books do not win on every bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by seaborneqBooks win on every bet, I hope you knew that. It is called Juice or Vig, whether the line is perfect or not.Comment -
TsopranoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#24Books do not win every ****ing game. What stupid reasoning. THEY CAN AFFORD to make a nice profit with even action but let's be real here... it's rare to have a 50/50 split on games.
Greed and general squareness is how books make a killing. They make more when consistently exposed on one side as the general public goes down in flames.Comment -
TsopranoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#25So if a book is holding let's say the Lakers vs the Suns at a PK, and 85% of the action is on the Lakers... they won on that bet?Originally posted by seaborneqBooks win on every bet, I hope you knew that. It is called Juice or Vig, whether the line is perfect or not.
Vig is a HUGE thing in the house's favor long term. Poor money management from addicts is what they bank on. Not to balance out both sides of a game.
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mintybetmachineSBR Sharp- 10-30-09
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#26or you just don't bet on games that have sharp lines?Comment -
phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
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#27niceOriginally posted by seaborneqLine Portland -5.5, 215.5. Final score Portland 110-105 total 215. A half point either way decided a winner. Sharp as hell. This is why you can't win long term.Comment -
BettingWizardSBR Hall of Famer
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#28Purdue line off 30 pts.......vegas so sharp
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seaborneqSBR Posting Legend- 09-08-06
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#29You will never have 85% action on one side.Originally posted by TsopranoSo if a book is holding let's say the Lakers vs the Suns at a PK, and 85% of the action is on the Lakers... they won on that bet?
Vig is a HUGE thing in the house's favor long term. Poor money management from addicts is what they bank on. Not to balance out both sides of a game.
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nobsRestricted User
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#30Originally posted by eidolonI'm sure glad i had +5.5 and over. cash cash money
1 winner, 1 loser. Lose the juiceComment -
t-boneSBR MVP
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#31this is why you don't bet on national televised gamesComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#32Most of the time the lines makers are correct , its mazing how so many games come right down to the number at end of game.Comment -
seaborneqSBR Posting Legend- 09-08-06
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#33Finally we agree JJOriginally posted by jjgoldMost of the time the lines makers are correct , its mazing how so many games come right down to the number at end of game.
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TsopranoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#34Pal, that was obviously an example.Originally posted by seaborneqYou will never have 85% action on one side.
It is extremely rare to have a 50/50 split on games, EXTREMELY rare.
But yet books clean up year in and year out.
Vig is a very strong asset the house has, but come on they do not need to balance anything out.Comment -
TsopranoBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 04-14-08
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#35I don't think anyone will sit here and debate with you that Vegas doesn't know what they are doing. They definitely know what they are doing.Originally posted by seaborneqFinally we agree JJ
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