Rooks vs. Sophs ** Let's cap this crapshoot!!

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  • hels
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-12-09
    • 8767

    #1
    Rooks vs. Sophs ** Let's cap this crapshoot!!
    Obviously there is no easy way to cap games like these but that's why I hope everyone can say their piece and we might come to some sort of consensus.

    Here's the rosters:
    For the Rooks
    DeJuan Blair: San Antonio F-C 6-7 265 Pittsburgh
    Omri Casspi: Sacramento F 6-9 225 Yavne, Israel
    Stephen Curry: Golden State G 6-3 185 Davidson
    Tyreke Evans: Sacramento G 6-6 220 Memphis
    Jonny Flynn: Minnesota G 6-0 185 Syracuse
    Taj Gibson: Chicago F 6-9 225 USC
    James Harden: Oklahoma City G 6-5 220 Arizona State
    Brandon Jennings: Milwaukee G 6-1 169 Italy
    Jonas Jerebko: Detroit F 6-10 231 Kinna, Sweden

    and the Sophs:
    Michael Beasley: Miami F 6-9 245 Kansas St.
    Marc Gasol: Memphis C 7-1 265 Barcelona, Spain
    Danilo Gallinari: New York G-F 6-10 225 Italy
    Eric Gordon: L.A. Clippers G 6-3 222 Indiana
    Brook Lopez: New Jersey C 7-0 260 Stanford
    Kevin Love: Minnesota F-C 6-10 260 UCLA
    O.J. Mayo: Memphis G 6-4 210 USC
    Derrick Rose: Chicago G 6-3 190 Memphis
    Russell Westbrook: Oklahoma City G 6-3 187 UCLA

    Obviously the Sophmores have the superior roster and should completely dominate the first years. Looking at the matchups the Sophs have a definite advantage in size and will control the boards wtih Lopez and Gasol inside. Of course the game will be played with more run n gun but I don't think the game will be as high flying as some might expect.

    PREVIOUS NBA ROOKIE CHALLENGE WINNERS

    1994 - Phenoms 74, Sensations 68
    1995 - White 83, Green 79 (OT)
    1996 - East 94, West 92
    1997 - East 96, West 91
    1998 - East 85, West 80
    2000 - Rookies 92, Sophomores 81 (OT)
    2001 - Sophomores 121, Rookies 113
    2002 - Rookies 103, Sophomores 97
    2003 - Sophomores 132, Rookies 112
    2004 - Sophomores 142, Rookies 118
    2005 - Sophomores 133, Rookies 106
    2006 - Sophomores 106, Rookies 96
    2007 - Sophomores 155, Rookies 114
    2008 - Sophomores 136, Rookies 109
    2009 - Sophomores 122, Rookies 116

    The OU at 245.5 is definitely right where it should be I reckon. However, I expect the majority of public to be on the Over. Remembering that this game is 2 20 minute halves makes a huge impact on the final point total. I want to play the over, as it makes sense 250 points will be scored, but I know that's how everyone is thinking and the bookmakers know this as well. I have no doubt that this game will be Under and will cap that large.

    What does everyone think?




  • hels
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-12-09
    • 8767

    #2
    and thinking of the -12.5 line I do believe the Sophmores will easily cover. In 2009 the Rookies were in it until the final minute where Kevin Durant took control of the game and it finished 122-116. Since the Rooks were that competitive last year the returning players for the now Sophmores is extremely important. 7 Rookies from the 2009 game are now playing for Sophmores in 2010:

    Beasley
    Gasol
    Gordon
    Lopez
    Mayo
    Rose
    Westbrook

    So, having these 7 players already having played last year and being extremely competitive against the then Sophmores is a huge factor to this game. Only Gallinari and Love didn't play last year. I think this team will take control early and hold onto the game easily. My predictions for
    first half: Rooks 52 68 Sophs
    final: Rooks 101 128 Sophs
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    • Durrrr
      SBR MVP
      • 11-07-09
      • 1314

      #3
      The SOPHOMORES completely out class the Rookies imo. I for one shall be betting -12.5 big.
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      • Quagmire27
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-30-09
        • 626

        #4
        Originally posted by hels
        Remembering that this game is 2 20 minute halves makes a huge impact on the final point total.
        Nice to see not everybody slept on that, alot will need to go right to get 245 points in 40 minutes. Tough to reach even with very little defense.
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        • hels
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-12-09
          • 8767

          #5
          Originally posted by Quagmire27
          Nice to see not everybody slept on that, alot will need to go right to get 245 points in 40 minutes. Tough to reach even with very little defense.
          definitely agree with you. The game will need to average over 6 points per minute to reach this total. Yes there will be some minutes where 10 points are scored but of course there will be others when only 2 are scored. If either team decides to play any defence at all, there is no way the game will go over.
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          • Durrrr
            SBR MVP
            • 11-07-09
            • 1314

            #6
            Yes, betting on under here too.
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            • HoulihansTX
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-12-09
              • 30566

              #7
              Originally posted by Quagmire27
              Nice to see not everybody slept on that, alot will need to go right to get 245 points in 40 minutes. Tough to reach even with very little defense.
              The problem wont be scoring, but who will be doing the scoring. will it be 2pts at a time, or 3PTs at a time. I see many shooters on both rosters, add the fact Anthony Morrow is playing for Rose. I placed a 245 OV bet when I equated all those factors.

              Also I think Anthony Morrow will be the MVP.
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              • tealish
                SBR MVP
                • 02-02-10
                • 3386

                #8
                I think it's a little silly to bet anymore than a small play on anything "All-star". But hey, if you can afford it and what to guess whether defense will be played or not, be my guest!
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                • wookieehumper
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-09-09
                  • 355

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hels

                  definitely agree with you. The game will need to average over 6 points per minute to reach this total. Yes there will be some minutes where 10 points are scored but of course there will be others when only 2 are scored. If either team decides to play any defence at all, there is no way the game will go over.
                  I like your guys' logic... I'm going with the under as well after reading this
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                  • bradleysnyder
                    Restricted User
                    • 04-18-07
                    • 6662

                    #10
                    guaranteed sophs -12.5
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                    • flyingillini
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-06-06
                      • 41219

                      #11
                      I am on the Rookies and the Under, May Jesus Christ Bless this play.
                      המוסד‎
                      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                      • ROYAJA8
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-23-09
                        • 2069

                        #12
                        The Sophmores will kill by at least 20 points I say
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                        • revisisland
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 02-07-10
                          • 37

                          #13
                          Yup Sophmores (-12)
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                          • chrislau86
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-04-10
                            • 924

                            #14
                            Line is dropping hard. Rookies moneyline went from +650 to +500, spread now 12, under now 244
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                            • Glitch
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-08-09
                              • 11795

                              #15
                              sophs is only a good pick if you think its fixed. anybody see or remember who got to 15 points first? i zoned out then looked up at the tv and it was 17-17
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                              • chrislau86
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-04-10
                                • 924

                                #16
                                Put .5X on Rookies ML (+500) and 1X parlay Rookies +12.5 and Under 245.5
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                                • Jonah
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-21-09
                                  • 4042

                                  #17
                                  Forgot how much of a ball hog Oj Mayo is... Beasley terrible 1st ten minutes.
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                                  • hedgejob
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-21-09
                                    • 2561

                                    #18
                                    What was the u/o set at?
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                                    • camel
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-26-09
                                      • 1711

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by hedgejob
                                      What was the u/o set at?
                                      last i saw it, it was 245.
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                                      • camel
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-26-09
                                        • 1711

                                        #20
                                        rookies doing well....
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                                        • Glitch
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-08-09
                                          • 11795

                                          #21
                                          yeah 2-fortysomething....like 243ish. i wasnt messing with that at all. man i hope +700 is good tonight- that always helps.
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                                          • Glitch
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-08-09
                                            • 11795

                                            #22
                                            this is a really really talented rookie class but imagine if hansborough panned out and blake griffin was healthy. it would probably be rookies +125
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                                            • chrislau86
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-04-10
                                              • 924

                                              #23
                                              lol the under will be close. 122 points in the 1st half
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                                              • Jonah
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-21-09
                                                • 4042

                                                #24
                                                Shout out to Beasely, Mayo an Morrow for finding ways to absolutely destroy easy scoring opps and shout out to the Durant and The Euros( Caspi and Jennings included) taking this game a little too seriously
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                                                • Boscoe
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-08-10
                                                  • 2811

                                                  #25
                                                  holy sh*t.... nba.com mixes up the pictures on the voting for the dunk play-in. i believe this is known on the world wide web as a "fail"

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                                                  • Powderguy
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-18-09
                                                    • 6939

                                                    #26
                                                    HAHA i saw that too Boscoe. At least Derozan won.
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                                                    • Boscoe
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-08-10
                                                      • 2811

                                                      #27
                                                      derozan was my pick to win it all.... i was expecting that lesbo to announce gordon even after his debacle.
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                                                      • WileOut
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-04-07
                                                        • 3844

                                                        #28
                                                        Rose is more like 6-4 and a half. Gordon is 6-3. Rose definitely taller than Gordon.
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                                                        • Boscoe
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-08-10
                                                          • 2811

                                                          #29
                                                          rooks and over.... f*ck
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                                                          • PickSix
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 11-27-09
                                                            • 303

                                                            #30
                                                            *puke* That was ugly...
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                                                            • HoulihansTX
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 02-12-09
                                                              • 30566

                                                              #31
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                                                              • Glitch
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-08-09
                                                                • 11795

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
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