lebron is the best player in the NBA

Mac4Lyfe · 02-07-10, 01:37 AM

He beat the Knick's basically by himself tonight.

blix177 · 02-07-10, 01:44 AM

Every player has good nights and bad nights.

jsmithj88 · 02-07-10, 01:47 AM

forget the knicks game, hes done that for years now
hes just better than anyone in the league
hes bigger, stronger, faster than any1 that guards him

tealish · 02-07-10, 01:49 AM

LeBron is producing and has produced for the duration of this season, at the highest level of any player in the game. It isn't even close. However, that does not necessarily equate to being the best PLAYER. That distinction, I still give to a certain #24 in purple and gold trim.

SportsTerminator · 02-07-10, 01:52 AM

the never ending discussion...

NYSportsGuy210 · 02-07-10, 01:54 AM

I wonder if these LeBron jock supporters are equivalent to those who kept writing or thinking about guys like Karl Malone and Dominique Wilkins being the best players in the NBA at the time Michael Jordan was going off on everyone and their mothers??

Haha....never disrespect the Mamba with this foolery.

SamsonSharp · 02-07-10, 01:55 AM

Kobe > Lebron

Who would you rather have the ball down by 1 with 15 seconds left in the game?

tealish · 02-07-10, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by SamsonSharp

Kobe > Lebron

Who would you rather have the ball down by 1 with 15 seconds left in the game?

Apparently, neither. It's the big German!

jsmithj88 · 02-07-10, 02:01 AM

lebron is just plain better than kobe
the ONLY argument is kobe has the rings
dont worry, when he teams with bosh, wade, amare, or whoever next year
lebron will get his rings the argument will end
but thats doesnt matter rite now, the point is, lebron is the best player in the league

NYSportsGuy210 · 02-07-10, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by jsmithj88

lebron is just plain better than kobe
the ONLY argument is kobe has the rings
dont worry, when he teams with bosh, wade, amare, or whoever next year
lebron will get his rings the argument will end
but thats doesnt matter rite now, the point is, lebron is the best player in the league

No it won't. Kobe will still have 4 rings and an 80 point game and LeBron only one ring. This guy is nothing more than Dominique Wilkins to Kobe's Jordan.

jsmithj88 · 02-07-10, 02:16 AM

a couple years back, kobe was by far the best player in the league
but i cant say that anymore, lebron is just plain better
look at the talent on the lakers squad, now look at the cavs
its not even fair, but the cavs have the best record in the league

NYSportsGuy210 · 02-07-10, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by jsmithj88

a couple years back, kobe was by far the best player in the league
but i cant say that anymore, lebron is just plain better
look at the talent on the lakers squad, now look at the cavs
its not even fair, but the cavs have the best record in the league

Wow you sound like a broken record like all those Cavs retards from last year....

Go ask Orlando what they think of your "regular season record".....

jsmithj88 · 02-07-10, 02:35 AM

i dunno wat u are laughing at
im not a cavs fan, not a lebron fan, not a kobe fan
im a sad sixers fan, haha
the magic were just better than the cavs
but i see it how it is, lebron is the best player in the league

aceking · 02-07-10, 03:18 AM

kobe won championships , not Lebron /

DeluxeLiner · 02-07-10, 03:26 AM

kobe is pretty injured right now, yet still plays at a high level. lebron iono about him yet.

S.K.M. · 02-07-10, 04:56 AM

Does anyone ever get sick of this argument?

zigomanisinsider · 02-07-10, 05:31 AM

lebron is so fun to watch all he does drive to the basket get foul take free throw all night

Grind House · 02-07-10, 05:41 AM

It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that ring!!!!

nastradamus · 02-07-10, 05:47 AM

It´s only question of time, when Lebron will get the ring! Best player now, no doubt!

sneak-a-peak · 02-07-10, 06:10 AM

LONG LIVE THE KING IN C-TOWN!

Busterflywheel · 02-07-10, 06:28 AM

He's pretty sick with it!

TGHMak · 02-07-10, 07:41 AM

I think this discussion can wait until we see what happens in the playoffs

bkny2cnc · 02-07-10, 09:08 AM

I love the way everyone says ''someone is a better player because of the rings",what about charles barkley not being better than jack haley or even will perdue?A team gets the ring, not one individual receives one solo.Lebron does everything better than Kobe other than scoring with an unstoppable j.Now on the other hand,you have scoring,assist,rebounds,steals,BLOCKS,co aching to make teamates better and overall a physical presence that would wow anyone.This is the the last one,I don't want a player to play 39 minutes without 1 assist regardlees of how good you think you are.

BOTH GREAT PLAYERS

SamsonSharp · 02-07-10, 12:00 PM

Im gonna go out on a limb and say Lebron will never beat Kobe in the playoffs..

All of you guys who said Lebron is better dodged my question. Who would you rather have down by 1 with a last second shot? Kobe hits them routinely Lebron, not so much.. Kobe season after season plays through injuries hes a warrior (not saying Lebrons not but he hasnt had to play through injuries like Kobe).

One thing NOONE can deny is Kobes killer instinct NOONE has killer instinct like Kobe in the league right now.

Also everyones on Lebron but honestly Dwade is not far behind him at all. Kobe > Lebron > Wade and its close

TodayIsForgotten · 02-07-10, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by S.K.M.

Does anyone ever get sick of this argument?

About as sick as rings making one player better than the other...

williams22 · 02-07-10, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by SamsonSharp

Im gonna go out on a limb and say Lebron will never beat Kobe in the playoffs..

All of you guys who said Lebron is better dodged my question. Who would you rather have down by 1 with a last second shot? Kobe hits them routinely Lebron, not so much.. Kobe season after season plays through injuries hes a warrior (not saying Lebrons not but he hasnt had to play through injuries like Kobe).

One thing NOONE can deny is Kobes killer instinct NOONE has killer instinct like Kobe in the league right now.

Also everyones on Lebron but honestly Dwade is not far behind him at all. Kobe > Lebron > Wade and its close

I've done this multiple times on here, but do you need me to show you crunch time or game winning shot stats? Lebron blows Kobe out of the water.

Right now Lebron is playing on a completely different level than everyone else. Whether you want to talk about scoring, passing, rebounding, defense, intangibles, etc. he's on top.

The most important distinction between Lebron and Kobe is that Lebron is by FAR the superior team player. He commands his better than anyone since Magic and elevates everyone elses game. Magic himself has said Lebron is the best leader the game has ever seen. Barkley said last week that the debate between Kobe and Lebron is now officially dead, and Barkley has never been a Lebron-lover. What Lebron adds to a team is so much more than stats that it's unmeasurable. If you put him on the Lakers in place of Kobe right now the Lakers would tie or beat the Bulls 72-game record.

williams22 · 02-07-10, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by bkny2cnc

I love the way everyone says ''someone is a better player because of the rings",what about charles barkley not being better than jack haley or even will perdue?A team gets the ring, not one individual receives one solo.Lebron does everything better than Kobe other than scoring with an unstoppable j.Now on the other hand,you have scoring,assist,rebounds,steals,BLOCKS,co aching to make teamates better and overall a physical presence that would wow anyone.This is the the last one,I don't want a player to play 39 minutes without 1 assist regardlees of how good you think you are.

BOTH GREAT PLAYERS

Exactly. Playing 39 minutes without an assist is sickening.

jsmithj88 · 02-07-10, 02:04 PM

lebron makes the game look too easy
i have never seen anyone that can score so easily since shaq
not only that, he can pass, rebound and block shots, its not even an argument

whatsgood5 · 02-07-10, 02:19 PM

I agree, he's unstoppable

Mac4Lyfe · 02-07-10, 02:19 PM

I have to agree that Lebron makes everyone around him better. This guy is like Magic with the ball, dishing out dimes, he's locking down defenders and making highlight blocks every night. He steals the ball in passing lanes and is the fastest guy in the league at 6'9". Take Lebron off of Cleveland and they don't even make the playoffs. Take Kobe off the Laker's and their still winning games (exhibit last night). They haven't been able to beat Portland in forever but the one night Kobe doesn't play they blow Portland out...

Lebron is a physical anomaly. Guy's aren't supposed to be that big and that fast. He's bigger than Julius Pepper's for Pete's sake and he drives to the hole like a freight train. It's not a knock on the great one's before him but Kobe and even MJ didn't have the physical gifts that Lebron has. He's now added a jumpshot to his arsenal. This kid is scary good. Guy's like Verajao, Hickson and MoWill should give him a cut of their paychecks because he's making them look like All Stars...

SamsonSharp · 02-07-10, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by williams22

I've done this multiple times on here, but do you need me to show you crunch time or game winning shot stats? Lebron blows Kobe out of the water.

Right now Lebron is playing on a completely different level than everyone else. Whether you want to talk about scoring, passing, rebounding, defense, intangibles, etc. he's on top.

The most important distinction between Lebron and Kobe is that Lebron is by FAR the superior team player. He commands his better than anyone since Magic and elevates everyone elses game. Magic himself has said Lebron is the best leader the game has ever seen. Barkley said last week that the debate between Kobe and Lebron is now officially dead, and Barkley has never been a Lebron-lover. What Lebron adds to a team is so much more than stats that it's unmeasurable. If you put him on the Lakers in place of Kobe right now the Lakers would tie or beat the Bulls 72-game record.

Kobe has hit more clutch shot than Lebron end of discussion there.... what are you gonna say Kobes hit 20-45 while Lebron hit 5-10?? come on, difference between Kobe and Lebron, Kobe never passes up the big shot Lebron has.

Lebron and Kobe are to complete different players. Kobe plays more like MJ while Lebron plays like magic.

And finally the discussion is never over, because Barkley say so....

djpremier36 · 02-07-10, 02:59 PM

LBJ is my favorite player in the NBA and I loathe Kobe Bryant. Still I have to say that Kobe is the better player, for now. There is no doubt that Lebron is the most talented player in the league though.

williams22 · 02-07-10, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by SamsonSharp

Kobe has hit more clutch shot than Lebron end of discussion there.... what are you gonna say Kobes hit 20-45 while Lebron hit 5-10?? come on, difference between Kobe and Lebron, Kobe never passes up the big shot Lebron has.

Lebron and Kobe are to complete different players. Kobe plays more like MJ while Lebron plays like magic.

And finally the discussion is never over, because Barkley say so....

Lebron has not only hit more game-winners, but he has a higher percentage as well. Also, Lebron trusts him teammates enough to pass if a double comes. Kobe is selfish.

NBA Game Winning Shots -- leading players

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Which players are the best in the closing moments with a game on the line? 82games.com seeks out the answers in this look at game winning shot stats.

SamsonSharp · 02-07-10, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by williams22

Lebron has not only hit more game-winners, but he has a higher percentage as well. Also, Lebron trusts him teammates enough to pass if a double comes. Kobe is selfish.

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

If that site is correct than you are right, I would like to see more sources than some random site though. I still would rather have Kobe with the ball, I can only recall one game winner be lebron in the playoffs (there only win against the magic) but I could be wrong.

I do agree with the poster that said Lebron is the most talented player in the NBA, but its Kobes killer instinct that makes him the best.. Also lebron has passed the rock with time running down something "the best player in the league" should never do. MJ and Kobe always have/had the ball in crutch time

Maybe in a few years lebron will pass up Kobe, but not yet