Are Cavaliers worse off with Isaiah Thomas?

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  • Conqueror
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-08-13
    • 16778

    #1
    Are Cavaliers worse off with Isaiah Thomas?
    Just asking.
  • Shutup
    SBR MVP
    • 12-15-17
    • 2435

    #2
    Why isn't Lebron sitting? He is still out there playing down 25 with a game tomorrow. They were down like 35 early in the third. It wil take time just like it always does with a top talent player before you figure it out
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    • Thrilla
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-10-15
      • 13809

      #3
      Only in defense
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      • IBetYou
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-03-15
        • 8158

        #4
        I've said it before, Calderon did a solid job for them. He got everyone in the right place and he hit the open shots. No doubt they're better with Thomas, but obviously experiencing teething problems right now.
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        • gojetsgomoxies
          SBR MVP
          • 09-04-12
          • 4222

          #5
          Originally posted by IBetYou
          I've said it before, Calderon did a solid job for them. He got everyone in the right place and he hit the open shots. No doubt they're better with Thomas, but obviously experiencing teething problems right now.
          i think they need a functional plus PG. they need better than calderon (a younger JC?) but isiah doesn't fit with lebron. he's more of a "lead guard" type than a PG. and lebron is already a "lead SF"....

          they should have turned kyries into something complentary with lebron. same with kevin love if they trade him (i don't know his contract status myself)

          basically need some functional PG's (delon wright from toronto. that level player), perhaps more shooters, and absolutely definitely a defensive big man type. biyombo from orlando would be brilliant. 4 players on offense with biyombo setting screens. very tight 3 point defense with a strong defensive center.

          lebron's rosters in miami and cleveland have been too much like fantasy teams. partially his fault although obv. he's done ok on NBA rings.
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          • IBetYou
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-03-15
            • 8158

            #6
            Biyombo isn't going anywhere, he's on a horrendous contract courtesy of the Magic.
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            • gojetsgomoxies
              SBR MVP
              • 09-04-12
              • 4222

              #7
              Originally posted by IBetYou
              Biyombo isn't going anywhere, he's on a horrendous contract courtesy of the Magic.
              that's was in the back of my mind......... TT is so mediocre........ TT for BB? not sure other teams would want TT though. and all i know is he makes alot. don't know how long.............

              bebe will be a great pickup for another team some day soon.. but toronto shouldn't trade him to cleveland........

              anyway, cleveland needs a good defensive big man. must be some out there. like a much younger tyson chandler
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              • IBetYou
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-03-15
                • 8158

                #8
                Bebe looks like he belongs in a latin america gang with all that tat on his face. Knucklehead. On second thoughts, Whiteside was a late bloomer so I guess there's hope for him...
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                • gojetsgomoxies
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-04-12
                  • 4222

                  #9
                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                  Bebe looks like he belongs in a latin america gang with all that tat on his face. Knucklehead. On second thoughts, Whiteside was a late bloomer so I guess there's hope for him...
                  but you don't need these guys to do much but hang near the defensive basket, block shots (or threaten to) and grab rebounds... especially the raptors who have never been a passing team (improved recently)....

                  i'm surprised teams haven't done the 4 quick, smallish for position players and one defensive big man....
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                  • A4K
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-08-12
                    • 5245

                    #10
                    This team is sick of Lebron's nonsense and blaming. Looks like the Cavs have given up on him.
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                    • IBetYou
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-03-15
                      • 8158

                      #11
                      Calderon back at the point tonight. No athleticism but such a heady player ...makes everything easy. Like Jason Kidd at the tail end of his career.
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                      • Cubs2016
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-27-16
                        • 1010

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Shutup
                        Why isn't Lebron sitting?

                        He'll be out most of the 4th when it's already a blowout.
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                        • bjb7223
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-03-12
                          • 10349

                          #13
                          just blew a 22 point lead
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                          • gojetsgomoxies
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-04-12
                            • 4222

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bjb7223
                            just blew a 22 point lead
                            unbelievable.......... for people suggesting lebron is the problem, i have no idea what to say
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                            • Thrilla
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-10-15
                              • 13809

                              #15
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                              • 44 Mag
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 10-14-13
                                • 34491

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Conqueror
                                Just asking.
                                You cannot win with a 5'9" guy. That's why the Celt's dumped him.
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5259

                                  #17
                                  they are better...Like last season CAVS just don't care about seeding in playoffs...NBA energy and team cohesion most important they are fine
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                                  • WildCelticsFan
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-19-14
                                    • 5420

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 44 Mag
                                    You cannot win with a 5'9" guy. That's why the Celt's dumped him.
                                    Mag is right. Ainge saw that this could be the highest value Thomas will ever have for a trade. What a great trade.
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