Wizzle's 2013-2014 NBA Thread

**Seto** · 11-26-13, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

None of it is related to the injuries?

I don't know what to make of the line move. I liked Pelicans when it opened and then didn't bet it when I couldn't get 3.

I don't think so. It was at +3 when it reopened after yesterday's game and the Bogut suspension was 100% already known. Not sure if Iggy was 100% out as no-one really knows how long he's gonna be out for but I think it was kinda implied from the start he'd be sitting out this one. Hasn't been an update on him all day.

I remember some theory about fading big line moves but not sure if that applies here. Have no play on any of the games as of now. BOL

**t-wizzle** · 11-26-13, 09:17 PM

Wizards would have been the type of game I'd lose last year.

**Speedy88** · 11-26-13, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Wizards would have been the type of game I'd lose last year.

Damn, wish I could have gotten 4.5. Ended up with Wiz -5 and pushed. Can't complain though, Gasol missed a point blank lay up at the end.

**Goat Milk** · 11-26-13, 10:06 PM

Can't wait til bryant comes back. Lakers will be a force if Nash can stay healthy come postseason time.

**t-wizzle** · 11-26-13, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Can't wait til bryant comes back. Lakers will be a force if Nash can stay healthy come postseason time.

Goat 40 yr olds don't stay healthy. Only guy with a shot of doing that will be Ray. That's it.

Lakers were very smart this offseason finding cheap perimeter players. Henry was always a very good player.

No surprise they are better without Dwight. Gasol is a much better center especially in today's game.

**Goat Milk** · 11-26-13, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Goat 40 yr olds don't stay healthy. Only guy with a shot of doing that will be Ray. That's it.

Lakers were very smart this offseason finding cheap perimeter players. Henry was always a very good player.

No surprise they are better without Dwight. Gasol is a much better center especially in today's game.

Dwight's attitude is what ruined them. Gasol is no dwight howard. Dwight took an average team to the nba finals because he was the main man. Tough to change that attitude, I thought Bryant would be able to get through to him but they turned into enemies.

Nash will stay healthy. He will only play 20 min per game because LA has Blake and Farmar who need 20 min each too. Perfect trio of PGs for Kobe Bryant.

Lakers are a force, watch.

**Seto** · 11-26-13, 10:32 PM

Nash going down in the 2nd game of the season killed that team last year. He will still a top 5-7 PG in 2011/12. Obviously Dwight's attitude was the other main problem.

**t-wizzle** · 11-26-13, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Dwight's attitude is what ruined them. Gasol is no dwight howard. Dwight took an average team to the nba finals because he was the main man. Tough to change that attitude, I thought Bryant would be able to get through to him but they turned into enemies.

Nash will stay healthy. He will only play 20 min per game because LA has Blake and Farmar who need 20 min each too. Perfect trio of PGs for Kobe Bryant.

Lakers are a force, watch.

You act like Howard carried that team. Howard was a better player back then but he had a team surrounding him that was very difficult to guard. You couldn't double team Howard because back then Turkoglu, Lewis, Lee, etc would make you pay. On top of that, it was a very weak Eastern Conference because Boston wasn't healthy.

You and I have had the Howard argument a thousand times before. Forget about his attitude. He still doesn't have good post moves. I will say that he does not get the benefit of the doubt with calls. Shaq used to get away with whatever he wanted - he was unguardable and rarely ever got called when he threw his elbows around to create space. Howard gets called for it every time.

**t-wizzle** · 11-27-13, 11:53 AM

Cavaliers +9 -102 (4x); ML +400 (.5x)

**Speedy88** · 11-27-13, 03:24 PM

Spurs finally lose today? I kind of like Dallas today. GS coming off a b2b in which Curry and Klay both played 40+ minutes. Dallas coming off a bad loss at home to Denver. Looking at Bulls, Cavs, Bucks and Rockets too.

**t-wizzle** · 11-27-13, 08:30 PM

I might take okc at half speedy.

Knicks +9 -102 (3x); ML +435 (.5x)

**t-wizzle** · 11-29-13, 07:04 PM

Raptors +6 -105 (3x); ML +230 (.5x)

**t-wizzle** · 11-29-13, 07:37 PM

Pistons -5.5 -105 (2x)

Hawks ML +108 (1.5x)

**t-wizzle** · 11-29-13, 08:04 PM

Thunder -7.5 -108 (4x)

Wizards +11 -103 (1x)

**lakerboy** · 11-29-13, 10:01 PM

whats your record so far?

**t-wizzle** · 11-29-13, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

whats your record so far?

I update every Sunday night. I was up about 4x going into this week but getting destroyed in nba this week. I'll do an update on sunday.

**lakerboy** · 11-29-13, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

I update every Sunday night. I was up about 4x going into this week but getting destroyed in nba this week. I'll do an update on sunday.

oh ok. bro nba is a waste of time. shit is completely fixed.

**t-wizzle** · 11-29-13, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

oh ok. bro nba is a waste of time. shit is completely fixed.

Yea regular season has been tough for me last couple years. Obviously playoffs is easy money.

**Seto** · 11-30-13, 01:44 AM

You like the Wolves tomorrow? Seems like a classic setup line for the public, Dallas 8-1 at home Minny 2-6 on the road yet Dallas only favored by 1 (actually opened -1.5 and was immediately hit down to -1).

**RavensFan2k3** · 11-30-13, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by Seto

You like the Wolves tomorrow? Seems like a classic setup line for the public, Dallas 8-1 at home Minny 2-6 on the road yet Dallas only favored by 1 (actually opened -1.5 and was immediately hit down to -1).

I see that it opened at -4

**t-wizzle** · 11-30-13, 10:31 AM

Seto sharps are all over twolves. They are the right side.

**Seto** · 11-30-13, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Seto sharps are all over twolves. They are the right side.

I think so too. This is an ideal spot to bounce back for them. Bad matchup for Dallas as well IMO, especially on a back to back? TWolves might put up 120 on them lol.

Hate to go against my boys but this is just the 17th game of the regular season so it's not like it has massive consequences.

**Seto** · 11-30-13, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by RavensFan2k3

I see that it opened at -4

Maybe at books like bwin that post lines days before but pinny opened at -1.5 and so did most books.

**t-wizzle** · 11-30-13, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Seto

I think so too. This is an ideal spot to bounce back for them. Bad matchup for Dallas as well IMO, especially on a back to back? TWolves might put up 120 on them lol.

Hate to go against my boys but this is just the 17th game of the regular season so it's not like it has massive consequences.

You a mavs fan seto? I think they are ok but it seems to me like books are overrating them. Certainly not tonight but some lines I thought they were getting too much respect.

**Seto** · 11-30-13, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

You a mavs fan seto? I think they are ok but it seems to me like books are overrating them. Certainly not tonight but some lines I thought they were getting too much respect.

Yeah I am. I do expect them to be better than last year (41-41 with Dirk missing 25+ games and Mike James at PG, no Center, and I could go on.. miracle not to have a losing season with that trainwreck roster) and have a good shot to make the playoffs. The West is so tough though that it's hard to imagine anything more.

**imadegen** · 11-30-13, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

oh ok. bro nba is a waste of time. shit is completely fixed.

your name is lakerboy for christs sake.

**Speedy88** · 11-30-13, 05:41 PM

I kinda like Wolves tonight too. Not sure what to make of the line movement. Seems like anytime a team goes from a dog to a fave it is a death wish.

Thoughts on Cavs tonight? Bulls on the last leg of a long roadtrip, Cavs coming off some bad losses. Thinking Cavs can bounce back and cover.

**Seto** · 11-30-13, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

I kinda like Wolves tonight too. Not sure what to make of the line movement. Seems like anytime a team goes from a dog to a fave it is a death wish.

Thoughts on Cavs tonight? Bulls on the last leg of a long roadtrip, Cavs coming off some bad losses. Thinking Cavs can bounce back and cover.

Pinny likes Dallas 1H though - they haven't moved off -0.5 all day with the full game line going from -1 all the way to -2. And part of my bet is on Wolves 1H, not too sure if I hedge out or what. Can hedge out at no loss.

Tbh the Cavs have been so bad all season it's hard to want to back them. They've won like 2 games in regulation all year. I think they're the 3rd worst team in the league at least atm after milwaukee and utah.

**Speedy88** · 11-30-13, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Pinny likes Dallas 1H though - they haven't moved off -0.5 all day with the full game line going from -1 all the way to -2. And part of my bet is on Wolves 1H, not too sure if I hedge out or what. Can hedge out at no loss.

Tbh the Cavs have been so bad all season it's hard to want to back them. They've won like 2 games in regulation all year. I think they're the 3rd worst team in the league at least atm after milwaukee and utah.

Yeah I noticed that. I honestly haven't really been looking at their 1H lines much anymore. They've just been off on them. I think yesterday they liked Bucks 1H, Philly 1H, and Clipps 1H and all lost. They're doing the same thing with the Wizards/Hawks 1H spread, Wiz line moved to 4.5 and 1H line stayed at 2.

**Seto** · 11-30-13, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Yeah I noticed that. I honestly haven't really been looking at their 1H lines much anymore. They've just been off on them. I think yesterday they liked Bucks 1H, Philly 1H, and Clipps 1H and all lost. They're doing the same thing with the Wizards/Hawks 1H spread, Wiz line moved to 4.5 and 1H line stayed at 2.

Oh ok - good to know. I didn't follow their leans much at all of late - I was just looking to bet Minny 1H so I got on sbrodds to see where I wanted to bet it and noticed Pinny's line. Anyway I can imagine it's not infallible, nothing is. It's just a theory many of us have here I guess.

They really seem to be keen on Dallas though - full game line has even moved to 2.5 and still -0.5 1H. This is like a GOY for them it seems

**t-wizzle** · 11-30-13, 08:39 PM

Rockets +6.5 -105 (2x); ML +240 (.5x)

Timberwolves -2 -105 (2x)

Jazz +9 -108 (2x)

**crustyme** · 11-30-13, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

whats your record so far?

Timberwolves +7 -108 (5x) loser
ML +255 (2x) loser
Pelicans +10 -108 (3x) loser
Nuggets +6.5 -105 (1x)
ML +230 (.5x)
Wizards -4.5 -107 (4x)Pelicans 1H ML -110 (2x) loser
Cavaliers +9 -102 (4x) loser
ML +400 (.5x) loser
Knicks +9 -102 (3x) loser
ML +435 (.5x) loser
Raptors +6 -105 (3x) loser
ML +230 (.5x) loser
Pistons -5.5 -105 (2x) loser
Hawks ML +108 (1.5x)
Thunder -7.5 -108 (4x) loser
Wizards +11 -103 (1x) loser

current run: 4-13 -32.08 units

ytd: 54-72 (42.9%) -19.92 units

he's as bad as you lakerboy, i wonder why that is.

**h3da** · 11-30-13, 11:07 PM

You must have too much time on your hands to count all his bets. Get a life.

**Speedy88** · 11-30-13, 11:22 PM

Nice night Wizzle. Congrats on the Auburn hit too. You playing anything in NFL tomorrow,
I like your Eagles tomorrow.

**t-wizzle** · 12-01-13, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Nice night Wizzle. Congrats on the Auburn hit too. You playing anything in NFL tomorrow,
I like your Eagles tomorrow.

Thanks man. I'll look at the NFL card in the morning. I had a few games picked out that I liked but I always change my mind on a few on gameday.