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  • cocknocker
    Restricted User
    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #36
    Adding Toronto 1st half moneyline too. The average score in the 1st half is 49.3 to 49 in favor of Toronto. I like my chances of a big payday with peanuts put up. It will be small however, so don't go pig wild with it.
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    • nick2060
      SBR MVP
      • 10-28-08
      • 1051

      #37
      pheonix is back to -7, like i said yesterday it seems when lines go down then back up, the favourite seems to win a lot of these games, anyway this moved it to a no play in my opinion
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      • cs11787
        SBR MVP
        • 08-26-08
        • 1088

        #38
        Lakers o/u going down. 213 now. Think itll keep lowering??
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        • cocknocker
          Restricted User
          • 11-06-08
          • 8001

          #39
          Yup, but play it anyway regardless of the movement. Sacramento doesn't have a good shot blocker, so the lakers can get to the rim at will. Odom will have a field day when he gets in the game
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          • cs11787
            SBR MVP
            • 08-26-08
            • 1088

            #40
            Down to 212 now. Also K-mart is out tonight? Any thoughts on taking the Lakers?
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            • The_Kid
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-09-08
              • 5049

              #41
              Originally posted by cs11787
              Down to 212 now. Also K-mart is out tonight? Any thoughts on taking the Lakers?
              Kevin Martin is out tonight.

              An MRI on Kevin Martin's left ankle revealed no new damage, but he is doubtful to play on Tuesday. There is no timetable for his return.

              The troublesome ankle has already kept Martin out of 12 games this season. Francisco Garcia and John Salmons will get more minutes and shot attempts as long as the Kings' leading scorer is sidelined. Dec. 9 - 11:23 am et
              Source: Sacramento Bee
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              • maddogmadden86
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-08-08
                • 898

                #42
                hey CK what website do u use for the uptodate quarters halves and games score averages
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                • cocknocker
                  Restricted User
                  • 11-06-08
                  • 8001

                  #43
                  The Kid,

                  That is what is driving down the over/uner line. He is a 20 point per game scorer. It doesn't matter. The guys you spoke of will take up the slack. I am still on the over anyway, and it is too late, as i took it at 214 anyway. I still like the oroginal number! 214 will be acheived with ease by the Lakers side of the equation.

                  maddog,

                  I use Winning Edge.com
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                  • zackattack
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 11-06-08
                    • 218

                    #44
                    hey ck i was wondering......i saw what you posted before about taking a favorite when there is no moneyline. i use 2 different sites and i have no moneyline on the following teams......perdue -11.5 siena -15 and wisconsin -19.5.......so my question is if wisconsin is a play wouldn't these other 2 be as well? thanks, zackattack
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                    • 2qwik
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 11-12-08
                      • 61

                      #45
                      Have to follow CK, so my final card is:

                      Spurs -1.5
                      Magic +5.5
                      Lakers/Kings Over 212.5

                      I just wanted to do spurs but I kicked myself when I only did bobcats and GSW for the game yesterday when I could have done Orlando, GSW 1st half, and Carolina -3 as well.

                      GL to all !
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                      • leopoldim86
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 11-14-08
                        • 29

                        #46
                        AIIITE CK, I hada rough past 2 weeks but this is the week I would love to see a final card for the night just to make me feel a lil betta
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                        • wangichu
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-07-08
                          • 946

                          #47
                          my computer was being a f*** last night so i'm having to scrape some last second research together here... but let's see...

                          ORL +3 1st half

                          I love ORL 1st half... they ride momentum in, they're great in the first half, and they owe portland a gut check... still holding off on the game spread, but i've posted the half spread, as that is probably one of the best plays on the board imho... orlando catching points on the road in the first... i'd play that just about any time. still holding off on the game spread, because i want to look into some other plays...

                          MIN +5 (up to 6?)

                          I love fading the jazz on the road situationally, and so far things look good... i feel like most of my successful road fades on them have invovled them as 4.5 point favorites. HEAVY money is on the jazz, yet the books have only let that line slide by a soft .5, last year, the jazz handled their business at home, but lost in MINNY by scores of 111-100, and 110-103. With all the ins and outs in the jazz's lineup, theirs sure to be funny minute mixing and they already struggle to handle business on the road... if anyone has injury news, that might help, but right now i'm playing for kevin mchale to come in and make a splash in his debut, because it's time to put up or get out of minny. Also, minny came back from a 3 game roaddy and already had their return let down. This is only the 3rd time they have played two straight at home, and that's the most they've done in a row at home; it's time to make something of that. Debating on a small ML play, but right now i'm fixing to wait and see if i can get that spread up to +6 because 90%+ is still on the jazz like the books just tossed a cookie at them...

                          WAS +4.5

                          the books can't even get 15% of the public to bet on washington, but they seem strangely complacent about that line... probably because they just don't mind the payday. AI has tweaked that pistons chemistry in a way i couldn't have anticipated and the line here shows it as they are not even 5 pt favorites against the lowly wiz. the wiz meanwhile have played some very tough games in their last 3, almost knocking off the lakers and covering against the blazers, even if they can't reward me for a small ML play, they should be good to keep it within 4 and at worst lose a heartbreaker (AI can deliver those)

                          SA -1 1st half

                          That line is acting awefully fishy right now, simulating that cave in spread that i blather about all the time, and that's normally enough to keep me from fading the team that dropped as favs... however i can't ignore how the spurs are getting it done on the road more than at home, the way that they have vengence on the mind against dallas and they way that they are a professional team that knows how to come out and attack on the road. Hopefully for spurs backers they hold on, but i'm just not comfortable following them past the first half.

                          still checking things out, but i'm waiting until late to play the t-wolves and the wiz, in the mean time i'm peeping that board... SAC +12 looks kinda interesting because of their history against the lakers and that line movement, but as much as the lakers have struggled down the stretch in games lately, i think they may hate the kings enough to get the cover here... may think about that over
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                          • cocknocker
                            Restricted User
                            • 11-06-08
                            • 8001

                            #48
                            zackattack

                            Actually I now have moneylines on all three on Greek.com.

                            -850 Purdue
                            -1800 Siena
                            -3000 Wisconsin

                            But yes, the book on games where there is no moneyline offered is usually the sign of a blowout. One that comes to mind was a game earlier this year in college football where TCU had no moneyline against Wyoming with a spread of 32. And of course, they blew them out 54-7. But anyway, I was told by a reputable source that whenever i see that kind of thing, stop everything else that I am doing and take just that game, which of course I did that Saturday, with a neat, huge play. "When you see that happen, do it, especially if the spread is so large it looks illegal!"
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                            • cocknocker
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-06-08
                              • 8001

                              #49
                              leopoldim86

                              Orlando+6.5
                              Orlando 1st half +2.5
                              San Antonio-1.5
                              Lakers/Kings over 214
                              Toronto+350 moneyline 1st half (small, I don't care. I'm playing to lose but if it cashes...)
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                              • natelli1
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-01-08
                                • 251

                                #50
                                i would love to do a reverse tonight and i do love the spurs -1.5 and im unsure of a 2nd game but i do like
                                CBB/denver +10
                                CBB/wisconsin -19
                                NBA/cavs -12
                                NBA/pistons -4.5
                                NBA/magic +3 1st half
                                can anyone give me some confidence on any of these games?
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                                • africanroller
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-30-08
                                  • 936

                                  #51
                                  Some sites do not offer many moneylines on College Basketball so be very careful on that.

                                  Day has started off well Cashing the ticket on Liverpool in the Champions league. Got to love when you get the favorite at +137.

                                  I think I am back on board with Davidson at +2 for a small play as nothing makes sense in that game.

                                  As far as Texas and Nova I am not playing this game. Texas lost to Notre dame by 1 and beat UCLA their last time out. The only team that Nova has played is Rhode Island. Texas is bigger and faster and should be able to run the floor.
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                                  • africanroller
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-30-08
                                    • 936

                                    #52
                                    Natelli, I would choose Orlando +3 first half. I wouldnt touch Denver as they absolutely suck on the road. I am also staying away from large spreads in College hoops as they have not been cashing early on in the season.
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                                    • africanroller
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-30-08
                                      • 936

                                      #53
                                      Final card

                                      Liverpool +137 Already cashed
                                      Phoenix -6.5
                                      Orlando +3 1st half
                                      Orlando +5.5
                                      SA -1.5
                                      LA/Sac Over 212.5
                                      Davidson +2

                                      Parlay( Never play these things so put a small play)

                                      Lakers ML
                                      Utah ML
                                      SA -1.5
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                                      • maddogmadden86
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-08-08
                                        • 898

                                        #54
                                        hey CK what do you feal about the under for the knicks/bulls game i dont see them scoring that many points the knicks are still getting inflatted over/unders and the bulls havent been ina game that scored that many points in awhile as well as the knicks both being agaisnt the hapless defensivless warriors
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                                        • LUNT101
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 03-12-07
                                          • 919

                                          #55
                                          CK. I need the one money play tonight that is a lock. Help me out.
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                                          • BookBuster
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 11-09-08
                                            • 211

                                            #56
                                            hey ck....i just posted a thread and i was thinking about a 2 team parlay...i know u said stop parlays but this sounds good to me....cleveland-12.5 and utah-5...any thoughts on that
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                                            • BigMoneyMan
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-14-08
                                              • 925

                                              #57
                                              I am rolling with Cleveland in the early game. -12 the line and money line are correct. Be back later after a little more work.
                                              I will make a brief mention about the Alabama game. WTF They beat themselves Florida did not is are I can say. Penalties at the wrong time an bonehead mistakes. I thought it was in the bag in the third. I will not be posting anymore football picks. I am through. I will be sticking to what I do best NBA. GL

                                              PS Congrads to Ck and everyone yesterday never even looked aty the tread but heard you'all ran the table
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                                              • cocknocker
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-06-08
                                                • 8001

                                                #58
                                                maddog, i don't like that game at all, and I haven't had a chance to look at it, but here's the best i can do without a lot of fat on it.

                                                The average total lines for games in Chicago between these teams is 193.5
                                                The average actual scores are 193
                                                2 unders 3 overs

                                                The line for this game is 216

                                                The Knicks give up 106.6 per game on the road
                                                The Bulls give up 97.6 per game at home

                                                A total of 204

                                                Current form: Chicago is giving up 100 per game last 5
                                                New York is iving up 107.4 per game last 5
                                                208 total

                                                So no matter how you look at it, this line is inflated. You have my blessing to take the under on that one.
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                                                • pronk
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-22-08
                                                  • 6887

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by africanroller
                                                  Pronk, starting guard for Davidson Max Paulhaus is out and the line has gone from -1 to +2. Not quite sure why as he averages 3.7 points and 1 assist per game.
                                                  Africanroller, Gosselin is a good defender and he doesn't score a lot and against the Wolfpack he played only 8 min. and was suspended for hitting Fergusson in the neck causing him to crash head first to the floor, but cats adjusted without Gosselin and beat NC State by 4. Curry will carry Davidson to the victory again. This guy is a one-man wrecking crew. GL.
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                                                  • cocknocker
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                    • 8001

                                                    #60
                                                    bookbuster,

                                                    refer back to my statement about parlays. Don't spend over $25.00 on that. Straighten those bets out. if you do a parlay don't do it for less than 4 or 5 teams and never for more than 25 dollars.

                                                    LUNT101,

                                                    I am playing San Antonio-1.5 the heaviest of all the bets
                                                    Orlando+6.5 is the 2nd heaviest.


                                                    As the days goes along, I am liking the Kings at home catching 12.5 more and more. And for some reason I feel that they play better without Martin in the lineup.The team has bee together long enough to play well when they need to. This game has shoot out written all over it. I think that the Kings can keep it within the number. I will have my final call on this game tonight a half hour before gametime. I smell an outright underdog win on this one. The more i keep talking to the Missus about this game the more intrigued i become about taking the dog and the dog moneyline. It is hard as hell to beat a team both straight up and ats 6 times straight with 3 of the last games being double digit wins. It worked for her with the Hawks last year in the playoffs against the Celtics.

                                                    And the moneyline of -1000 is incorrect for a line of -11.5. An 11.5 spread should have a moneyline of no more than -550 at the most. Incredible. I haven't seen a more wrong moneyline than this one in a while.

                                                    Something is very fishy about this game and the moneyliine is telling me the Lakers are overvalued in this game, and when that happens the favorite is in danger of losing a game straight up.
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                                                    • isiah121
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 12-04-08
                                                      • 313

                                                      #61
                                                      Spurs is at -1.5 now. That sucks!

                                                      CK, should I wait to see if the line would move, or should I just wager at -1.5?
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                                                      • Sloanie29
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-03-08
                                                        • 111

                                                        #62
                                                        CK..what do you think about the Spurs -.05 1st half?
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                                                        • Sloanie29
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-03-08
                                                          • 111

                                                          #63
                                                          i took

                                                          Spurs (-.5) 1st half

                                                          kings (+12.5) and over 212.5 (small parlay)
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                                                          • africanroller
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-30-08
                                                            • 936

                                                            #64
                                                            Isiah, The line is now 2 points which you can still lay the hammer.
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                                                            • Netprofit
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-25-08
                                                              • 3538

                                                              #65
                                                              do anyone have information about percentage played on spurs and dallas?

                                                              seems everyone on spurs now.
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                                                              • wangichu
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-07-08
                                                                • 946

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                                bookbuster,

                                                                refer back to my statement about parlays. Don't spend over $25.00 on that. Straighten those bets out. if you do a parlay don't do it for less than 4 or 5 teams and never for more than 25 dollars.

                                                                LUNT101,

                                                                I am playing San Antonio-1.5 the heaviest of all the bets
                                                                Orlando+6.5 is the 2nd heaviest.


                                                                As the days goes along, I am liking the Kings at home catching 12.5 more and more. And for some reason I feel that they play better without Martin in the lineup.The team has bee together long enough to play well when they need to. This game has shoot out written all over it. I think that the Kings can keep it within the number. I will have my final call on this game tonight a half hour before gametime. I smell an outright underdog win on this one. The more i keep talking to the Missus about this game the more intrigued i become about taking the dog and the dog moneyline. It is hard as hell to beat a team both straight up and ats 6 times straight with 3 of the last games being double digit wins. It worked for her with the Hawks last year in the playoffs against the Celtics.

                                                                And the moneyline of -1000 is incorrect for a line of -11.5. An 11.5 spread should have a moneyline of no more than -550 at the most. Incredible. I haven't seen a more wrong moneyline than this one in a while.

                                                                Something is very fishy about this game and the moneyliine is telling me the Lakers are overvalued in this game, and when that happens the favorite is in danger of losing a game straight up.
                                                                I can't shake that feeling either... kings hate the lakers and the lakers haven't been closing out games lately, especially on the road... add that reverse line movement, and i can't keep off the kings.

                                                                Final card:

                                                                SA -.5 1st half
                                                                ORL +3 1st half
                                                                ORL +6
                                                                MIN +6/ML
                                                                WAS +6/ML

                                                                SAC +12.5
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                                                                • nick2060
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-28-08
                                                                  • 1051

                                                                  #67
                                                                  im seeing 55 on san antonio, 45 on dallas on covers, there usually isnt a huge disparity between what other sites show and what covers has, usually 2-3 percent tops, i think its just sbr forums, and im sure ck being on it probably got a couple more people on it
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                                                                  • Netprofit
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-25-08
                                                                    • 3538

                                                                    #68
                                                                    thanks nick.

                                                                    just want to share this first half total play - Siena Over 66
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                                                                    • maddogmadden86
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 11-08-08
                                                                      • 898

                                                                      #69
                                                                      CK i can remember last year when me and your missus took the hawks moneyline in teh playoffs at some ridiculous moneyline and all my boys were laughing at me as we were at the bar and i felt they were going to win outright and boy did they stop laughing when i hit that moneyline and told them if i hit this i'm buying everyone a round and that night you can sure as hell know i blackedout lol
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                                                                      • maddogmadden86
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 11-08-08
                                                                        • 898

                                                                        #70
                                                                        big money my man glad to see you are on the cavs as well lets do Work!
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