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  • cocknocker
    Restricted User
    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #36
    NYCKEV

    The over/under for the Suns/Lakers is not one that looks good for the simple fact that the Suns give up 97.8 points and the lakers only give up 91.3 on average this year. According to the numbers, there is a reverse movement on the total as 85% of bettors are on the over, and it went down instead of up. According to what I see the line started at 205.5, and it is now down to 204.5 on my books. Not a good sign for the over.
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    • wangichu
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-07-08
      • 946

      #37
      Originally posted by AUSSIE_PUNTER
      defending champions boston 2007-2008 nba champions


      and detroit last won the championship

      now sit back and watch ya bets loose mate

      i aint running i dont run u will tho when boston crush detroit


      i have a name for people like you i call them puppets because some one has the hand up you a## >
      wow.... i'm not even going to address your 7 other off topic posts, but just to say... what the hell does them winning teh championship have to do with this games specifically... boston has looked rough around the edges this year and incumbent champs normally don't do a lot of covering the next year (you could look that one up... you said something about detroit's first two games with AI... how many teams do you know that just gel like that when they add that much of a star to their lineup and totally alter their chemistry... lakers last year MAYBE, but that's about it. They've gotten used to each other now and are making good things happen.

      Also, did you ever look that stat up about how detroit is ATS after a dd loss? that dd loss is what's going to make it harder for boston to beat them, because detroit now has a lot more motivation to get up for this game and if you don't remember what happened last year when detroit went to the garden... they won...

      just saying, at least address his question if you are going to try to sound smart and act like you're not just playing your emotions here.... go ahead and rip into me now like you have a clue who i am, what i do, or how i cap... you're not going to hurt my feelings... i probably won't even be back to check anyways... have fun punting!!

      p.s. i've got this great capping site for you. covers.com You can go there and stroke on boston rather than capping if that's your cup of tea ... i wouldn't be surprised if you met an estranged relative there
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      • cocknocker
        Restricted User
        • 11-06-08
        • 8001

        #38
        Wizard, i was one of those who had San Diego, and unfortunately I won't give the monetary gift back to my books for the gaffe. So to is the case with the cover Utah had against the Bucks yesterday evening. I can't give back the monetary gift caused by that the errors made at the end of the game by the Bucks. Not that it was brilliant, or not that it was a foolhearted win, it was just what it is. A win. And in this thing of ours, that's all that you can ask for. It's like a squibber that gets through the infield that cashes a first inning run ticket for me (and believe me I have won many of those), if you see it, the moment presents its'self as luck. if you don't see it and read the box score, it looks like a liner to center over the outfielders' head. It's not good practice to speak badly of fate. It just is what it is. See you guys later this afternoon.
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        • 2qwik
          SBR Hustler
          • 11-12-08
          • 61

          #39
          CK,
          No need to let Aussie or any other mod get under your skin. You know you know your shit and your record proves it! I would follow you in covers and now seeing how things are going here. I lay something down here and there now but not like I use to since got myself in trouble after you stopped posting.

          Anyways, the insight is great and the CK Mafia will always have your back.
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          • BigMoneyMan
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-14-08
            • 925

            #40
            OK I I wanted to get this in early before things change and will be back later to post anything else I like. I am taking Detroit 1st, 2nd quarter ml, half +4 and Half ML. Also taking them for the game. +7. Detroit played last night and well in the 3rd and 4th and should carry over. In addition you have the revenge factor, Garnett coming back (which will screw with the minutes) and Iverson and his match up with Boston. Unlike Ck I really don't see any value in Detroit in the 3rd or 4th. Boston will make a run and I don't know if there is any value for the ML game but I sure as hell know there is in the 1st half. So there it is. Gl
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            • BigMoneyMan
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-14-08
              • 925

              #41
              Oh BTW 5-1 yesterday!!! took second half Utah and Portland late everything else was posted
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              • maddogmadden86
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-08-08
                • 898

                #42
                hey bigmoneyman does your book have the moneyline out yet for the quarters and halfs? mine doesnt i might now be able to do them on mine just seeing if you could already
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                • IrwinFletcher
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 11-10-08
                  • 96

                  #43
                  Yo BMM.. I understand the minute mixing when a player has been down for several games but KG was suspended for one game.. No minute mixing issues here, they all know who he is and how to get him the ball.. The way I see it, is these two teams are too competitive for this long of a spread which should be more like -3 or 4. No matter how you slice it they're two of the top three teams in the East and tonight's game will be a close one..

                  Some numbers you won't see tonight:
                  Paul Pierce F 28:19 3-10 7pts
                  Tony Allen 27:40 11-16 23pts

                  Richard Hamilton G 36:50 0-8 3pts
                  Rasheed Wallace C 39:20 4-17 10pts
                  Allen Iverson G 31:19 4-11 10pts

                  Looking at these numbers it becomes much clearer, even though I watched the game, that the Stons gave a lackluster performance in their previous meeting.

                  That said.. I think Detroit looks to push the tempo tonight and Boston will follow.. Which has me thinking the over 184 is the play.
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                  • MrMannix
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 11-15-08
                    • 172

                    #44
                    Originally posted by AUSSIE_PUNTER
                    the little baby now go buy your tissue
                    You're a f*cking idiot assuie. Your stupid quote says it all. Billionare my ass- shouldn't you be doing international business deals to make that money instead of talking about NBA games. Unless you are playing millions on your games but you seem like a $25 play chump. F off and don't post on this thread cause no on wants to hear it a-hole.
                    Keep it up CK mafia!
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                    • BigMoneyMan
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-14-08
                      • 925

                      #45
                      Originally posted by maddogmadden86
                      hey bigmoneyman does your book have the moneyline out yet for the quarters and halfs? mine doesnt i might now be able to do them on mine just seeing if you could already
                      Yes oneof them does BETUS. 1st and 2nd quarter +135 no change, half +185 now +160 game +260 now +240. Better Get Sum!!!!
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                      • icsky3
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-14-07
                        • 1700

                        #46
                        Tell me why no one likes the over in this game at 184? lol i'm going to steal some money tonight.....
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                        • dm8582
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 11-19-08
                          • 6

                          #47
                          icsky - i am with you on the over..pistons are better offensively and not as good defensively now that AI is on the team so we should see each team put up at least 90 tonight..pistons should keep the tempo from slowing down most of the game too
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                          • LUNT101
                            Restricted User
                            • 03-12-07
                            • 919

                            #48
                            Pistons will want to keep this a fast paced game, with Iverson pushing the ball from the point knowing that Boston has a great halfcourt defense, especially at home. I agree Detroits defense has been less than stellar since the AI acquisition. The over looks good. I'm also on Detroit.
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                            • BigMoneyMan
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-14-08
                              • 925

                              #49
                              For anyone that cares I am playing the under on the Pitts burg game and GT -2.5 with a .5 point buy. Have to run out but will be back to capp the LA game. GL
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                              • BigMoneyMan
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-14-08
                                • 925

                                #50
                                Originally posted by icsky3
                                Tell me why no one likes the over in this game at 184? lol i'm going to steal some money tonight.....
                                Do what you want but I tought about playing the under. The line is messed up. be careful. I forgot to tell you why. Some books are going up and some down. Also the public has been going from over to under all day wit no concensus.
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                                • oso
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 11-11-08
                                  • 44

                                  #51
                                  CK/Wang my laker brutha from anotha, what is your take? I think the lake show goes to Phoenix tonight. Pretty even macthup until Lakers 2nd set of starters come into the game....what do you think? I yhink koeb ad the boys geta small lead and then farmar and crew (Lamar) blow it open. Is Brian skinner really gonna gurad lamar or bynum or Gasol????
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                                  • tbond10
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-02-08
                                    • 1014

                                    #52
                                    hey, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in and get some feedback from you guys. I'm definitely not CK mafia nor do i plan to be but you guys definitely have a talent capping NBA which is my weak sport so I've been tailing a number of picks the past week. Keep up the good work fellas.. anyways.

                                    I took det +11 and steelers -5 teaser for 3 units, and over 103 1st half in the lakers game for 2 units. Those are the only bets I've laid so far involving NBA. Any thoughts or any other plays that you guys are leaning towards? Best of luck guys and I hope you continue hitting with NBA (I'll be tailing)
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                                    • MoneySportsGuy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-09-07
                                      • 4891

                                      #53
                                      I like Detroit to get a road win in Boston.
                                      Also like Detroit +2 1Q
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                                      • nick2060
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-28-08
                                        • 1051

                                        #54
                                        damn anybody know an online place to watch the celts game? don't get tnt, think it might be only in america or something
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                                        • The_Kid
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-09-08
                                          • 5049

                                          #55



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                                          • nick2060
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-28-08
                                            • 1051

                                            #56
                                            thanks man
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                                            • maddogmadden86
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-08-08
                                              • 898

                                              #57
                                              nick were u from?
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                                              • nick2060
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-28-08
                                                • 1051

                                                #58
                                                toronto
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                                                • I.R.B
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-12-08
                                                  • 3209

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                  I.R.B.

                                                  The Lakers aren't the only team that you can do that with, trust me. Matter of fact, why did it work AGAINST the Lakers when I took Detroit for every quarter, the half and the game moneyline and last week?

                                                  You've got to know that everyone told me that the Lakers would blow out the Pistons prior to the game right? But I knew that the Pistons were in a position to do the exact opposite, and just like that situation, I know that the Pistons are in a position to dominate the opposition (Celtics) tonight. Thank you for your concern, however. I expect to be the minority on this call too. When I feel that the dog is better than the favorite, I will always do it every time (pound moneylines). Detroit is the best team in the East for years in a row. They may not win it every year, but they are in it every year. The Celtics were great last year, and they have not been winning by large points at home this year, and this time it bites them in th rear. The Pistons deserve a better spread than the scrub spread that is being offered. That they certainly are not.
                                                  Well you are playing a rested Celts team.. That makes off to a bad start today.. 0-3-1
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                                                  • AUSSIE_PUNTER
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-30-08
                                                    • 678

                                                    #60
                                                    what what what what what i can hear u detroit backers
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                                                    • AUSSIE_PUNTER
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-30-08
                                                      • 678

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                      Ah yes, we have arrived at the day when the Celtics are going to have revenge served to them cold by the Pistons. The Pistons (which is my favorite team) are one of the best teams that I know at revenge games. And this one fits the bill as the Pistons lost by 18 to the Celtics a few weeks ago. And now they get their chance to exact revenge upon the Gang Green.

                                                      The Celtics have an unblemished home record true, but they have been winning in an unimpressive fashion. With KG coming back into the fold after a game suspension by the league the Celtics will have to mix back in his minutes. No good facing the Pistons who are firing on all cylinders (no pun intended) and playing in better form coming into this game. I am going to wait until the morning as my book doesn't have all of the moneylines up yet. I already took the Pistons at +6.5 this evening. I will take them for each and everything that I can in this game, as i don't intend on touching the lakers/Phoenix game and I want to concentrate solely on this game, and Georgia Tech in college football. I will put $100.00 on each quarter moneyline, $500.00 on the 1st half, and $200.00 each on the 1st half and game moneylines, and $1100.00 on the game spread, which is already done.

                                                      In other words, I plan on getting paid as many times as I can off of this one game. The last time that I did this is (made 6 moneyline bets on one game along with 1st and game wagers) when the Pistons played the Lakers I only lost the fourth quarter moneyline bet, and cashed every single ticket outside of that.

                                                      Pistons 1st quarter moneyline push
                                                      Pistons 2nd quarter moneyline lost
                                                      Pistons 1st half moneyline lost
                                                      Pistons 1st half spread lost
                                                      Pistons 3rd quarter moneyline lost
                                                      Pistons 4th quarter moneyline lost
                                                      Pistons+6.5 (Done) lost
                                                      Pistons moneyline for game
                                                      lost

                                                      now 1 push 7 looser and people follow your tips
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                                                      • cocknocker
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 11-06-08
                                                        • 8001

                                                        #62
                                                        Just got in. The Pistonsare getting pummeled. Good call AUSSIE PUNTER. I know how to lose and win with class. See you tomorrow.

                                                        I.R.B.

                                                        I also had Georgia Tech-2.5
                                                        Cincy+19/under 41 teased
                                                        Cincy+12
                                                        Cincy/Pittsburgh under 34

                                                        So I had a back up plan. You shoulfd adjust your numbers accordingly when tracking my days and announcing MY record.

                                                        Just know that I have class, and I will never mention your record win lose or draw. Good luck to you tomorrow.
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                                                        • cocknocker
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-06-08
                                                          • 8001

                                                          #63
                                                          AUSSIE PUNTER, I already have congratulated you. You can relax. You act as if this is you're not used to winning.
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                                                          • BrandonLaz
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-18-08
                                                            • 855

                                                            #64
                                                            In his defense he posted his bragging before you congratulated him and he hasn't talked back since. Rough day for you ck I generally avoid QT and halftime bets for that reason. Your under at 34 could be in trouble as well though sorry I took over so I am pulling for the over, but anyway you got anything going on the later game? I got Lakers -4
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                                                            • BigMoneyMan
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-14-08
                                                              • 925

                                                              #65
                                                              AllI can say is Thank god for Under on Detroit, Under on Steelers and GT!!!!
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                                                              • AUSSIE_PUNTER
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 10-30-08
                                                                • 678

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                                Just got in. The Pistonsare getting pummeled. Good call AUSSIE PUNTER. I know how to lose and win with class. See you tomorrow.

                                                                I.R.B.

                                                                I also had Georgia Tech-2.5
                                                                Cincy+19/under 41 teased
                                                                Cincy+12
                                                                Cincy/Pittsburgh under 34

                                                                So I had a back up plan. You shoulfd adjust your numbers accordingly when tracking my days and announcing MY record.

                                                                Just know that I have class, and I will never mention your record win lose or draw. Good luck to you tomorrow.
                                                                thanks mate
                                                                also i played all your bets but opp i took boston so thanks for the set up
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                                                                • I.R.B
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-12-08
                                                                  • 3209

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I never questioned you're ability to win.. Just questioned the plays you had today.. Playing a team that just came off a very though Defencesive game the night before.. you set you're self up for a bad day playing them for every qt and the game. Being a fan of a team and betting them like this will only equale out to losing days..
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                                                                  • cocknocker
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                                    • 8001

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Not necessarily I.R.B.,

                                                                    I am a Detroit die-hard true, but I have won more often that not with Detroit. I will continue to back them. Sure I took some lumps tonight, but it's all part of wagering. I know how to get it back tomorrow. Hey it worked against the Lakers on a back to back. Win some lose some. No sense in getting caught up in why.

                                                                    Lose a game and no one will explain anything to you about how you set yourself up to lose. And if you should happen to lose no one will explain to you what you should have done ( I'm speaking of my gang, the CK Mafia). Notice how the only person on the entire board who had anything negative to say about this loss was an outsider. Kind of ironic, huh?

                                                                    Come on down anytime you wish I.R.B., You're alright with me. You have class. What's more if you come with credible information, I think that we can be useful to each other.



                                                                    We are all family around here.

                                                                    At any rate, i don't have an opinion on the Lakers game this evening, BrandonLaz.
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                                                                    • BrandonLaz
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 11-18-08
                                                                      • 855

                                                                      #69
                                                                      I had the Lakers at -4 last night I was just wondering if you put anything on it today. The Pistons cost me my 8 team teaser and 8 team parlay today those are only for fun though I put no more than 5 dollars down on it, but the parlay would have been a nice payout for only 5 bucks lol. Ended up like 6-1-1 today maybe 7 if the lakers pull it off. Didn't get my fairfield bet in time or I would have lost that one GL to you tomorrow CK I will check back and let you know what I think about your picks. You are right we are all family and everybody here wants to win that is why we have the forum to give reasons for picking each game and then everyone makes their picks according to the info they get.
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                                                                      • cocknocker
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 11-06-08
                                                                        • 8001

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I am taking the Phoenix moneyline for the 2nd half +100 as it is even money. I plan on making back everything that I lost on Detroit and then some.
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