New to your system. Read the entire post and have a question or two. 1)Should we be playing or fading the toer plays? 2) The S/B plays,are they just personal picks or are they based on system plays? 3) Is it a toer system play no matter how small the margin of difference in our favor? 4) In post #91 should PHX +3 (+2) been a no play?
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Hey bulichm,
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And as far as fading TOER, Degenregen is dead set on making it work,
so I would be a little weary about fading TOER at this time.
I’m sure Degenregen, can help with the rest of your questions about
what he is doing with the TORE System.
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<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> Today’s S/B Plays
Massachusetts’s v Northeastern
Northeastern +3½ -110
55/50
St Johns v San Francisco
St Johns +3½ -110
55/50
Northwestern v Baylor
Northwestern +12½ -120
60/50Comment -
toer (04/12/12) ytd (21-25)
OKC -5.5 (-4)
I haven't been betting on TOER lately, I've just been keeping track. It started off 1-8, but it's been creeping slowly back to 50%. If I were betting on something, I would be betting that TOER gets to 50% at some point, so I don't think you want to fade it.
As for the lines, the lines outside the parenthesis is what the TOER system believes the lines should be at. The lines in the parentheses are the actual lines. So for example, the strongest play yesterday was for NWO since the actual line gave you 3 points over what TOER believed the line should be at (After the 5 pt overlay). Whereas the weakest play was on CLE which TOER believed the line was only off by one. TOR and LAC were no plays because the lines never got better than what TOER believed they should be (Keep in mind the 5 point overlay, so it's not saying you should fade these either.)Comment -
Shiva,
How do you determine your hedge bets for the teasers? Are these in-game lines or do you hit up the 2nd half when a team is faltering?Comment -
PR 04/12/12
Minn +4 or >
Brook
Chi -3.5 or <
Hou -1 or <
DD
Mia
MemComment -
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> When comes to teasers; my strategy is usually to pick it early game and then a late game.
If I hit the first game now I have some options on the second game, either with the Money Line or if it's an underdog I'll take the points.
Also, I do use halftime lines.
BOL
EX:
Game 1 WIN
Game 2 p/k (-5)
Now I would take the dog in game 2 at +5
Also, I would be looking at, the half time line.
BOLLast edited by ShivaBowl; 12-05-12, 10:05 AM.Comment -
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> 1-2 yesterday -$60.00
S/B Plays Teasers 4-2 +$125.00
Hedge Plays 1-1 +58.64
Straight Plays 4-4 +$55.00
+$243.64
Today’s S/B Plays
Teasers -110
Florida -½ (-5½)
Memphis +½ (-4½)
110/100
Temple v Villanova
Villanova +3 -110
110/100Comment -
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> Recap; Northeastern was up nine with the spread up 12.5 with about 4:50 to go.
They scored one point in about 4 1/2 minutes and that's why basketball will rip your lungs out.
It's a long year and it takes a ton of patients, keep it small and don't blow your brains out betting on BB.
I may have a play on USC there’s something fishy about this line?
You would think, it would be around NM > -15Comment -
Northwestern.. what a ML.Comment -
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Today’s S/B Plays
Teasers -110
Florida -½ (-5½)
Memphis +½ (-4½)
110/100
Temple v Villanova
Villanova +3 -110
110/100<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> As of right now, USC is down to +9.5
I’m going to take a shot with MRSH, on a neutral site.
Marshall v West Virginia
Marshall +5½ -110
55/50
Marshall v West Virginia
Marshall +180
25/45Comment -
(2/12/12)
<acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> no plays, YTD (7-13) -6.84 units
DD (1-1) -0.07 units, YTD (3-2) +0.88 units
HPR no plays, YTD (3-4) -1.24 units
(3/12/12)
No Plays
(4/12/12)
<acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> (2-2) -0.16, YTD (9-15) -7 units
DD (0-2) -2.07 units, YTD (3-4) -1.19 units
HPR no plays, YTD (3-4) -1.24 unitsComment -
<acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> 05/12/12
Minn +5 or >
SA
Orl +7.5 or >
Tor +3 or >
LACComment -
S/B Play
USC v New Mexico
New Mexico -7 -120
60/50Comment -
(5/12/12)
<acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> (3-2) +0.90, YTD (12-17) -6.10 units
DD no plays , YTD (3-4) -1.19 units
HPR no plays, YTD (3-4) -1.24 unitsComment -
Does these mean that you have 2 predetermined picks and you play the first one and let the second one ride? Then if the first one loses your betting the second one assuming your not going to lose both in the same day?<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> When comes to teasers; my strategy is usually to pick it early game and then a late game.
If I hit the first game now I have some options on the second game, either with the Money Line or if it's an underdog I'll take the points.
Also, I do use halftime lines.
BOL
EX:
Game 1 WIN
Game 2 p/k (-5)
Now I would take the dog in game 2 at +5
Also, I would be looking at, the half time line.
BOLComment -
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S/B Plays Teasers 5-2 +$225.00
Hedge Plays 1-1 +58.64
Straight Plays 5-6 -$85.00
+$198.64
Today’s S/B Plays
Teaser - ties win - 5 pts
Creighton -2 (-7)
Miami Heat -2 (-7)
115/100Last edited by ShivaBowl; 12-06-12, 09:32 AM.Comment -
I did get the Knicks in yesterday.Comment -
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S/B Plays Teasers 5-3 +$110.00
Hedge Plays 1-1 +58.64
Straight Plays 5-6 -$85.00
Today’s S/B Plays
Teaser - ties win -115
Connecticut -5 (-10)
Iowa +3 (-2)
115/100Comment -
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <woNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> Excellent, because you had two opportunities before game start,
Creighton was up big and at halftime NYN 53 MIA 53 to hedge that teaser.
Unfortunately, I did not have time to post.
Also, it’s a damn shame Miami sucks, because you were in a good position too hit that teaser both ways.
But you did protect your bankroll with a hedge play and that's what its all about.
Nice Work bulichm
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All you have to do is hit a few of these, in order to have a good week.
BOLLast edited by ShivaBowl; 12-07-12, 09:38 AM.Comment -
Our friend HoulihansTX, is doing a good job.
Check him out, when you have the time thanks
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I appreciate the Promotion ShivaComment -
PR (07/12/12)
Det
GS +6 or >
Clev +9 or >
HPR
OrlComment -
PR (07/12/12)
GS
Phi +7 or >
DD
LAC
NWO +13 or >Last edited by Tommygunn; 12-08-12, 04:08 PM.Comment -
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Post #126
S/B Plays Teasers 6-3 +$210.00
Hedge Plays 1-1 +58.64
Straight Plays 5-6 -$85.00
Today’s S/B Plays
Ties reduce - basketball 5½ pts –120
Wisconsin +3½
Northeastern +9½
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Last edited by ShivaBowl; 12-08-12, 08:54 AM.Comment -
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Post #126
S/B Plays Teasers 6-3 +$210.00
Hedge Plays 1-1 +58.64
Straight Plays 5-6 -$85.00
Today’s S/B Plays
Ties reduce - basketball 5½ pts –120
Wisconsin +3½
Northeastern +9½
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Based on early lines.
West Virginia –1
New Mexico –5
115/100
Minnesota v USC
Minnesota -7 -120
120/100
Illinois v Gonzaga
Illinois +12 ½ -115
57.50/50.00
Illinois v Gonzaga
Illinois +600
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Go sb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
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TG, DG and ST are all fast a sleep. Dreaming about my blonde
Here we go with MIN up to > - 8.5 now.
WV > - 6.5
WIS >- 2
BOL todayLast edited by ShivaBowl; 12-08-12, 10:35 AM.Comment -
(8/12/12)
<acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> (1-1) -0.09, YTD (13-18) -6.19 units
DD no plays , YTD (3-4) -1.19 units
HPR (0-1) -1.06, YTD (3-5) -2.30 unitsLast edited by Tommygunn; 12-08-12, 05:00 PM.Comment -
Wisconsin v Marquette
Wisconsin 2nd Half -4.5
110/100Comment -
Hedge play, last leg of teaser.
Valparaiso v New Mexico
Valparaiso +10.5 -120
120/Comment
