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  • Optional
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    #1
    NASCAR Book Odds Comparison
    If I can be bothered I am going to keep track of a few books prices.

    Will try and get real openers, and then do it again close to race time.

    Maybe we can spot an advantage for ourselves.

    If anyone wants to send me openers from other books I will add them in.


    Greek and LVH hang lines Mondays (and are almost identical).

    5Dimes and Bookmaker post them Tuesday or Wednesday.

    Sportsbook don't post a market until Friday.

    (5D and SB don't offer a field bet, so I added one in red so we can compare apples against apples)

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    #2
    Closing prices for Chicago

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    • yisman
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      #3
      vig is crazy
      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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      • Vegas39
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        #4
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          #5
          Hamlin is almost double Greek odds there Vegas!

          *Edit... just realized they are from last week.

          Openers from this week if you see them though mate.
          Last edited by Optional; 09-17-12, 09:07 PM.
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          • Vegas39
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            #6
            I will once they post
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              #7
              Originally posted by yisman
              vig is crazy
              Cherry picking the best odds from the Chicago race above... Vig is 32.96%

              Which is more than acceptable for this type of market I think.

              I'm going to try and do it for openers... Friday closers, then race closers this week.

              Be good if you can keep an eye out for Bovada openers and post them if you are still using them. I can only see Bodog prices from here.
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              • yisman
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                #8
                Bovada booted me but anyone can see their prices. sports.bovada.lv

                "Cherry picking the best odds from the Chicago race above... Vig is 32.96%"

                Cherry picking the best odds! I just mean that at any given book...

                Cherry picking the best odds in MLB can sometimes get you zero vig
                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                • Vegas39
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by yisman
                  Bovada booted me but anyone can see their prices. sports.bovada.lv
                  What did you do
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                  • Optional
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by yisman
                    Bovada booted me but anyone can see their prices. sports.bovada.lv

                    "Cherry picking the best odds from the Chicago race above... Vig is 32.96%"

                    Cherry picking the best odds! I just mean that at any given book...

                    Cherry picking the best odds in MLB can sometimes get you zero vig
                    Yeah I agree, the closing markets at any one book are scary.

                    Thanks for sports.bovada.lv .. last time I tried to find them it kicked me to bodog.
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                    • yisman
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                      #11
                      bovada has the worst CS I've ever seen

                      first they shut down my account, claiming I requested it, which I didn't. Then they said it's because I'm in NY.

                      Then they started claiming I owe them money and said there are no ways for me to deposit aside from a card which is not available here.

                      Very bad book.
                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                      [/quote]

                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                      • shaunovery
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                        #12
                        I had a bodog account which is is uk version of bovada I didn't use it for about a yr and they closed it saying I hadn't used my account in 12 months now I've got to reopen one if I want to play in the players poker championship
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                        • Optional
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                          #13
                          I just opened one for it too Shaun.
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                          • Optional
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                            #14
                            Openers For New Hampshire

                            Will edit this post to update lines for the other 3 as they come out.

                            Last edited by Optional; 09-19-12, 01:47 AM.
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                            • shaunovery
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                              #15
                              Odds getting shorter now for the chase drivers
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                              • yisman
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                                #16
                                Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.



                                Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                They sent e-mails threatening to lock accounts for inactivity and confiscate the balances.

                                and here's one of my past posts about frustrations with Bovada CS

                                Originally posted by yisman
                                CR?

                                you mean Bovada CS? Often when I have a problem they won't help via e-mail and insist I call. I call the number, and whoever picks up is clueless. I often wait on hold for long periods while they try to figure out how to use a computer.
                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                [/quote]

                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                • shaunovery
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                                  #17
                                  That's what happened to me they closed my account for in-activity
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                                  • Optional
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                                    #18
                                    I just spent a little over an hour in a live chat session with Sportsbook trying to find out what NASCAR limits are. They increased mine by 3 times, even though I didn't ask for an increase, but I still don't know what the limits are

                                    Nearly every single offshore book has terrible CS. Don't worry about it when choosing a book if you have to use offshore I reckon now.

                                    Ne teller is worse than any books CS I have come across. As far as giving you zero information about anything. Seems pointless to even have them to me.
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                                    • Vegas39
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                                      • onlooker
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                                        Great thread Opti.
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                                          #21
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                                          Last edited by Optional; 09-19-12, 01:57 AM.
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                                          • onlooker
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            Are you sure those prices are real? 50/1 for Truex??

                                            Added them to the table above.

                                            The 'weird' odds on a few of them really skew the best price figure.
                                            Those are correct opening odds.

                                            Truex is currently 25/1 at Stations.
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                                            • Vegas39
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                                              • Vegas39
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                                                #24
                                                There you go.damn we get answers fast
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                                                • onlooker
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                                                  #25
                                                  They open up, and correct the skewed ones pretty fast. Like last week, when I tried to bet Gordon at 12/1 and couldn't connect, then when I went back, he was 8/1.

                                                  So you have to hop on the drivers you want, pretty fast, if it is skewed.
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                                                  • Optional
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                                                    #26
                                                    Sounds like Stations could be a good out if you want to sweat the openers like we have been with 5D. Shame all of us can't get on there. Kind of surprised both weeks Vegas books have had a few best odds.

                                                    Amazing that you guys can get an effective 21% vig market if you want.
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                                                    • onlooker
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                      Sounds like Stations could be a good out if you want to sweat the openers like we have been with 5D. Shame all of us can't get on there. Kind of surprised both weeks Vegas books have had a few best odds.

                                                      Amazing that you guys can get an effective 21% vig market if you want.
                                                      Good thing for the mobile Apps. I check all morning on Tuesdays.

                                                      Jumping between WillHill LV and Stations.

                                                      Cantor needs to get NASCAR on their App. That sh!t pisses me off. I would really like to see how comparable their odds are, without having to drive to one of their books.
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                                                      • Vegas39
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by onlooker
                                                        Good thing for the mobile Apps. I check all morning on Tuesdays.

                                                        Jumping between WillHill LV and Stations.

                                                        Cantor needs to get NASCAR on their App. That sh!t pisses me off. I would really like to see how comparable their odds are, without having to drive to one of their books.
                                                        Ok you convinced me to signup for stations one. Looker have you asked Cantor why no nascar odds on theirs?
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                                                        • onlooker
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Vegas39
                                                          Ok you convinced me to signup for stations one. Looker have you asked Cantor why no nascar odds on theirs?
                                                          They never gave me any real reason. They just have the major sports on it.
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by onlooker
                                                            They never gave me any real reason. They just have the major sports on it.

                                                            Ok thanks I may ask when at the M this weekend
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                                                              #31
                                                              Final Openers chart.

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                                                              • yisman
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                                                                #32
                                                                best on field would be +1350 I think
                                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                [/quote]

                                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I didn't use it as that is just my estimate of what it would be. Althoigh best column is a bit skewed anyway by the weird Station prices on Kahne/Bowyer/Truex
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                                                                  • yisman
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    ah yeah, I forgot. 5 dimes does not price the field. I didn't know what the red meant.

                                                                    the weird prices were simply bad numbers that I'm sure were gobbled up quickly. They screwed up.
                                                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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                                                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                    • onlooker
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by yisman
                                                                      ah yeah, I forgot. 5 dimes does not price the field. I didn't know what the red meant.

                                                                      the weird prices were simply bad numbers that I'm sure were gobbled up quickly. They screwed up.
                                                                      They still didn't adjust very well.

                                                                      Truex is 25/1.
                                                                      Bowyer is 15/1.

                                                                      Last time I checked.
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