WATKINS GLEN--5mike5

[Vegas39]

no way...

he will be 3rd or 4th favorite imo

no way hes above smoke and ambrose

I say 3rd

[5mike5]

I say 3rd

and that would be VERY overrated...VERY

hs not that good here at all

many more than 2 have 10x the chance gordon does

[Vegas39]

sonoma by far the worst imo...

WAY too slow and absolutley NO action

I think both would be better than current cup road courses but just my opinion

[5mike5]

everybody still thinks GORDON is some master road course driver

hes not, especially at the Glen

he was elite when drivers/teams sisnt even prepared for road courses

he shouldnt even be top 5 rated price wise, but he will be

[Vegas39]

and that would be VERY overrated...VERY

hs not that good here at all

many more than 2 have 10x the chance gordon does

Yes but he still has 4 wins but nine since 2001. Plus the momentum factor

[5mike5]

Yes but he still has 4 wins but nine since 2001. Plus the momentum factor

best finish of 9th in last 10 or 11 years....

hes average at best at the glen

a win bet is a complete waste of $$$$ at price he will be at....(imo anyway)

[5mike5]

ill be fading gordon in H2H this week so i hope they overreact in prices!

[Vegas39]

ill be fading gordon in H2H this week so i hope they overreact in prices!

May not be a bad plan as prices will be over inflated. I only meant be shocked if most books don't have him as 3rd fave

[5mike5]

May not be a bad plan as prices will be over inflated. I only meant be shocked if most books don't have him as 3rd fave

oh i agree, gordon, JPM, and kyle will be 3, 4, 5

[Vegas39]

oh i agree, gordon, JPM, and kyle will be 3, 4, 5

You don't think JJ same price or better than Kyle ?

[5mike5]

not sure, but it shouldnt be imo

kyle very good here, only finished outside the top 10 1 single time, his rookie season

plus hes won here

but they always over price jimmy, so could be around same price

[Vegas39]

not sure, but it shouldnt be imo

kyle very good here, only finished outside the top 10 1 single time, his rookie season

plus hes won here

but they always over price jimmy, so could be around same price

Was thinking same about JJ over pricing

[shaunovery]

Gordon's avg finish the last 7 yrs here at the glen is 17.9 so he's not a factor for me this week

[5mike5]

best finish of 9th in last 10 or 11 years....

hes average at best at the glen

a win bet is a complete waste of $$$$ at price he will be at....(imo anyway)

exactly

but, avg.finish can be a VERY decieving stat, 1 i never use...and even though he has wrecked, its not really that far off of how ordinary gordon has been here

9th being is best finish in last 10 races just says it all...not even 1 single good finish

[5mike5]

here are the greek openers:

[5mike5]

actually be interesting to see how much better 5D opens at on a few of these

may make the differnce on 1-2 of them for me, especially since im only taking 3 drivers probably to win this week, and focusing on H2H matchups to go big on

**but i wont say much on that til they come out

[yisman]

stewart and ambrose are definatley biggest threats to win the race

too bad theres no way in hell u can bet both and make any money

I don't see why not.

[5mike5]

I don't see why not.

well of course u can now that theres odds to see...no odds werent out yet when i posted that

was basing on previous opening prices, which were much lower than these

[shaunovery]

Why are people falling over themselves to back ambrose ( someone who has only ever won 1 time )

[yisman]

even in previous road races, I don't think there was ever a time when two guys were favored by so much that you couldn't turn a profit by backing both

Not saying it's advisable, just that it's possible.

[5mike5]

Why are people falling over themselves to back ambrose ( someone who has only ever won 1 time )

hes raced 4 times here and finished top 3 everytime with 1 win, and hes there everytime

btw: whos falling all over themselves?

[5mike5]

even in previous road races, I don't think there was ever a time when two guys were favored by so much that you couldn't turn a profit by backing both

Not saying it's advisable, just that it's possible.

maybe if its ur only 2 plays, and ur wanting to squeak out a profit...but i have the numbers, and u wouldnt win much at all if u took more than those 2 to win in a few road courses in the past...those odds are better than past years

guess it all just depends how much money u risk and want to win

[yisman]

you wouldn't win big, but the shortest you see is maybe one guy at +200 and another at +250

put $100 on both and you'd either profit $100 or $150

unless you're betting at DSI/Bookmaker. Then you might not make much of anything :P

[5mike5]

you wouldn't win big, but the shortest you see is maybe one guy at +200 and another at +250

put $100 on both and you'd either profit $100 or $150

unless you're betting at DSI/Bookmaker. Then you might not make much of anything :P

yes ur right, if those were only 2 u were betting to win....

is DSI that bad on nascar odds yis??

think ive heard u mention b4

[onlooker]

Yisman. Read this:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/1838048-sbr-rules-guys-can-you-ask-runners-anymore-sportsbook-wagers.html

I got suspended from the sportsbook for 2 day for running, and deducted 10 points.

[5mike5]

Yisman. Read this:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sbr-points/1838048-sbr-rules-guys-can-you-ask-runners-anymore-sportsbook-wagers.html

I got suspended from the sportsbook for 2 day for running, and deducted 10 points.

that say just for same households, ghost accounts, ect right onlooker??

what yis asks isnt illegal right or am i missing something?

[yisman]

they edited the rules to forbid runners just recently. shari was saying she asked for it.



mike, it now is against the rules to ask someone to bet for you.

[5mike5]

they edited the rules to forbid runners just recently. shari was saying she asked for it.



mike, it now is against the rules to ask someone to bet for you.

well that blows..

especially for guys that dont mind to help out friends on here, and the OPs like u it helps win...

whats next?? illegal to loan pts too?

geeez

[yisman]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1817128-will-shari91-attend-2012-vegas-bash-bet-now-p6.html#post15483096

yes ur right, if those were only 2 u were betting to win....

is DSI that bad on nascar odds yis??

think ive heard u mention b4

the worst. DSI/Bookmaker on field with 3+ choices offer horrible prices. I've posted some examples in the past.

[onlooker]

they edited the rules to forbid runners just recently. shari was saying she asked for it.



mike, it now is against the rules to ask someone to bet for you.

Thanks for the heads up bud.

I wish they would of let us know when they slipped that edit in. If I knew, I wouldn't of did it.

[5mike5]

im going to open and fund a 2nd book when football starts, but need nascar to be at least good for H2H plays (high limits) there too

suggestions? heritage or bookmaker?

i do NOT take bonuses so that doesnt matter

[yisman]

onlooker, there was nothing I could do

im going to open and fund a 2nd book when football starts, but need nascar to be at least good for H2H plays there too

suggestions? heritage or bookmaker?

Heritage. Similar prices on hth to 5 dimes.

not as good on the to win but still a lot better than Bookmaker.

[5mike5]

ok thanks for the advice

[Reno Paul]

im going to open and fund a 2nd book when football starts, but need nascar to be at least good for H2H plays (high limits) there too

suggestions? heritage or bookmaker?

i do NOT take bonuses so that doesnt matter

BetOnline, sportbetting.ag, 1vice

[5mike5]

ODDS ARE POSTED guys