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  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 52006

    #1
    KANSAS--5mike5
    Alright boys we are off to KANSAS speedway this weekend for both the Truck series and CUP series races..there is not a nationwide race this week...had a great win last weekend in Texas, so hopefully we keep it rolling this weekend....so far we have won a great profit by picking the race winners in 5 of the 7 races to start the season this year...we all keep helping each other it will stay this good all season long

    KANSAS speedway is a 1.5 mile D-shaped Oval...banking is 15 degrees in the turns and 10.4 degrees in the frontstretch and 5 degrees banking in the backstrectch.....
    the frontstrectch is 2,685 feet long and backstrectch is 2,207 feet long
    Kansas use to be just a 1-time a year race, but it expanded to 2 Cup weekends a year in 2011, making only a total of 12 races run here since track opened to Cup in 2001

    As always all useful insight is always welcome on this thread, as more we help and dicuss the races the better chance we all have of winning on the weekend...been a great season so far and thanks to everybody that contributes to this thread...its much appreciated

    GOODLUCK this weekend boys!!!!!

  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 52006

    #2
    SPRINT CUP SERIES weekend racing scedule for KANSAS:

    PRACTICES:
    Friday 1:30PM AND 4:30PM (est) both airing on SPEED channel

    QUALIFYING: Saturday at noon (est) airing on SPEED channel

    RACE: SUNDAY 12:30 pm (est) airing on FOX
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 52006

      #3
      TRUCK SERIES race @ kansas speedway is Saturday at airing on SPEED channel at 1:30 pm (est)

      practices are 12:30 and 3pm and qualifying is saturday at 10:30am (est)




      *****NO Nationwide race this weekend*****
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 52006

        #4
        Starting watching the last 4 complete races from Kansas yesterday morning and will complete the viewing sometime early afternoon today...once i finish and look over my track notebook and driver notebiooks for kansas ill make 1 or 2 early selections starting today when odds get posted...after that will see how the odds move around to see if ill take more than 1-2 today or wait it out
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        • flyboy
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-10-12
          • 748

          #5
          Hope to hang around this thread all season. I am going to the race at kansas this weekend so hope the weather is good!! Keep up the good work mike, your impressive on nascar.
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          • 5mike5
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-21-11
            • 52006

            #6
            Originally posted by flyboy
            Hope to hang around this thread all season. I am going to the race at kansas this weekend so hope the weather is good!! Keep up the good work mike, your impressive on nascar.
            hope u have a great weekend at the track flyboy!!

            Kansas is another track i want to go to a race weekend at myself...seems like a great venue/area

            *****id love to take all the credit for a great season so far, but its a collabrative effort from the regular OPs that contribute the info./opinions on the thread...


            have a safe weekend
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            • JackalLion
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-29-12
              • 228

              #7
              My first pick this week will definitely be the 48! His momentum lately has been very strong. He was on track for back-to-back second places and led a lot of laps in the last two races.

              Hopefully his odds come out pretty good I'm hoping for 850.
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              • 5mike5
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-21-11
                • 52006

                #8
                Originally posted by JackalLion
                My first pick this week will definitely be the 48! His momentum lately has been very strong. He was on track for back-to-back second places and led a lot of laps in the last two races.

                Hopefully his odds come out pretty good I'm hoping for 850.
                yeah i agree...he flat out dominated last race last fall here too...wierd jimmy isnt closing out races that he dominates this year though, but cant see that happening many more times

                cant say #16 wont be up there for me again too...this is actually his best track of them all, even a little better than jimmy

                just have to see how low the odds are....8.5-1 would be great, but not sure it will be that nice....i would guess 6-7 to 1 is what they will be for both guys being they are top drivers at Kansas...but im hoping for better...they both have momentum too
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                • 5mike5
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-21-11
                  • 52006

                  #9
                  i just hope this race doesnt end up being a fuel mileage race, and it typically can be...

                  after the boring as hell 270 record breaking green flag laps without a yellow flag last week at texas, i sure hope that isnt the case again this weekend in kansas...i absolutley hate races decided by fuel mileage...almost as bad as a rain-shortened race...ALMOST

                  and there should ONLY be 3 drivers in single digit odds to start out and those are the 48, 16, and 14...any other driver has 0 early betting value under 10-1
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                  • lexxa
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 12-16-10
                    • 67

                    #10
                    Sam Hornish is entered in the race, he'll probably spin a couple of times...
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                    • 5mike5
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-21-11
                      • 52006

                      #11
                      took BIFFLE (+900) and JIMMY (+675) on early wagers

                      not sure if ill take any1 else or not, but if i do would only be 1 more early
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                      • JackalLion
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-29-12
                        • 228

                        #12
                        I'm with you on those two. I'll probably add one more early it's really close between 3 drivers for me.
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                        • 5mike5
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-21-11
                          • 52006

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JackalLion
                          I'm with you on those two. I'll probably add one more early it's really close between 3 drivers for me.
                          hope u bet him early already cause hes gone from +675 and immediatley dropped to +550 in less than 15min. ...he got HAMMERED when odds got listed...

                          ill probably add stewart, matt never won here so im holding off on him

                          PHEW!
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                          • shaunovery
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-15-07
                            • 18143

                            #14
                            Mike how about brad k this week 2 good top 5 last yr at Kansas
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                            • 5mike5
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-21-11
                              • 52006

                              #15
                              Originally posted by shaunovery
                              Mike how about brad k this week 2 good top 5 last yr at Kansas
                              yeah but disqualify 1 of those, he won the race there strictly on fuel mileage which is 1 of those 2 top 5s Keslowski has there in last 4 events...

                              finishes areent bad even without the win with a 3rd, 13th, and 23rd in last 4 races at Kansas

                              for me, theres just no value in those early odds....

                              not saying hes a bad pick or anything, but just not a priority pick for me this week
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                              • Dad
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-26-08
                                • 23245

                                #16
                                Good luck this week, Mike!

                                I'm always lurking in your Nascar threads and tailing when I can.
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                                • 5mike5
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-21-11
                                  • 52006

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dad
                                  Good luck this week, Mike!

                                  I'm always lurking in your Nascar threads and tailing when I can.
                                  thanks DAD!!

                                  BTW, next time u stop in, we all would appreciate 1 of those infamous DAD pix
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                                  • Dad
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-26-08
                                    • 23245

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                                    thanks DAD!!

                                    BTW, next time u stop in, we all would appreciate 1 of those infamous DAD pix


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                                    • 5mike5
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-21-11
                                      • 52006

                                      #19
                                      very nice...love the race flavoring

                                      TY sir
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 52006

                                        #20
                                        i hate moving...
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                                        • Dad
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-26-08
                                          • 23245

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 5mike5
                                          i hate moving...
                                          I second that!
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                                          • DDT
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-22-09
                                            • 3757

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 5mike5
                                            i hate moving...
                                            Where are you moving to?
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                                            • 5mike5
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-21-11
                                              • 52006

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DDT
                                              Where are you moving to?
                                              oh just within walking distance of where i am now, just a newer place

                                              i just hate the moving everything and seting up commcast, net, and electricity, ect...but im doing it over the next few days so hopefully wont be too bad...my girl wants all new furniture, and everything too...argggggggggggggggg

                                              just an overall expensive hassle
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                                              • JackalLion
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 02-29-12
                                                • 228

                                                #24
                                                You need to stop telling her about all of your NASCAR profits. Lol
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                                                • Boscoe
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-08-10
                                                  • 2811

                                                  #25
                                                  is Brad K a lock to win the truck race??? +165??
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                                                  • 5mike5
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                    • 52006

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Boscoe
                                                    is Brad K a lock to win the truck race??? +165??
                                                    wouldnt call him a lock, as i never much value in the truck races even though when Cup drivers race in trucks they almost always win the races...anywhere near +165 just isnt any value IMO for any driver in any nascar race...but i dont bet alot on the truck series...more just fun for me than a moneymaker

                                                    but hes definatley the overwhelming favorite just becuase hes the only Cup driver parcticipating in the truck race this weekend...as would any other cup driver be if he was the only 1 entered
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                                                    • JackalLion
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-29-12
                                                      • 228

                                                      #27
                                                      Mike,

                                                      Im looking for one more early driver that has the potential of not only winning but having their odds reduced after qualifying.

                                                      So far I've narrowed it down to Jeff, Carl and Harvick. If you had to pick one of these who would it be? I'm leaning towards Jeff right now.

                                                      I'm also taking a small wager on the hometown kid. I know he wants to win here really bad and his line is attractive to me.
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                                                      • 5mike5
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                        • 52006

                                                        #28
                                                        geeez...really hard to predict the odds factor cause really just depends on how they all do in the sessions....

                                                        i mean gordon has 2 wins there ,and carl and harvick have 0, but both have been finishing well there in recent years, actually better than gordon has

                                                        i think its just a toss up if ur looking to get better odds on 1 of them now cause thats really just totally depends on how the sessions do....i dont think ur going to gain alot of ground on any of the 3 since all are between +1000-+1100 as of right now, UNLESS they qualify in the top 5, and even then i cant see much being gained unless they just dominate practice/qualifying....

                                                        just hard to tell with those 3 choices....

                                                        im personally waiting on most my picks just becuase on 5dimes if u wait til sunday the odds get better by the hour usually if ur not betting the top 3 favorites after the sessions, and i think jimmy going to be the favorite unless he crashes or something....i thought the best value of the weekend is biffle +900 early (which i think u have already) and jimmy when he first came out at +675...those are still only 2 picks ive made so far, and they may better later for all i know...lol......only other im even thinking about is smoke, and still havent decided to bet now or just wait.

                                                        if jimmy, matt, kennseth, ect. do well in qualifying and practice sessions, i think every other drivers odds get better the longer you wait, cause most will be betting them all weekend...

                                                        not sure i helped, but im not taking any of those 3 early so its hard for me to tell u a way to lean....maybe some1 else will chime in here for ya

                                                        if it was me, i would just go with ur GUT
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                                                        • 5mike5
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-21-11
                                                          • 52006

                                                          #29
                                                          i also think its never a bad idea to take a hometowner at good odds....

                                                          i may bet bowyer as well actually

                                                          hes had 1 top 5 and 3 top 10s in career here...and top 20 in 6/7 career...30-1 always worth a shot imo
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                                                          • 5mike5
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-21-11
                                                            • 52006

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JackalLion
                                                            Mike,

                                                            Im looking for one more early driver that has the potential of not only winning but having their odds reduced after qualifying.

                                                            So far I've narrowed it down to Jeff, Carl and Harvick. If you had to pick one of these who would it be? I'm leaning towards Jeff right now.

                                                            I'm also taking a small wager on the hometown kid. I know he wants to win here really bad and his line is attractive to me.
                                                            also heres a stat that if trends again maybe u get better odds on Gordon now instead of later:

                                                            he the 2nd best qualifier here with under 10.0 avg. starting position....only qualified outside top 13 one time since '05 season....and 3 of last 8 hes started 4th or better

                                                            just 1 stat, but odds may get lower if he qualifies well and also practices good, since u were leaning his way
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                                                            • 5mike5
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-21-11
                                                              • 52006

                                                              #31
                                                              i want to take another myself early since im still sitiing with just the 2 early bets so far....but just may wait

                                                              struggling between matt/smoke add ons but just not sure as of yet if i will add anybody else early or not
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                                                              • JackalLion
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 02-29-12
                                                                • 228

                                                                #32
                                                                Thanks Mike! The 24's qualifying efforts there are mainly why I'm thinking of getting him early. My guess is at best he'll be in the 14 range but could possibly go to 7 if he's in the top five in practices and on the pole. I think he'll be ready this week after finally getting a good finish last week.

                                                                I think I'll go ahead and lock him in. That makes the early plays JJ, Gordo, Biff and small on Bowyer.

                                                                Thanks for the help.
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                                                                • 5mike5
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                                  • 52006

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JackalLion
                                                                  Thanks Mike! The 24's qualifying efforts there are mainly why I'm thinking of getting him early. My guess is at best he'll be in the 14 range but could possibly go to 7 if he's in the top five in practices and on the pole. I think he'll be ready this week after finally getting a good finish last week.

                                                                  I think I'll go ahead and lock him in. That makes the early plays JJ, Gordo, Biff and small on Bowyer.

                                                                  Thanks for the help.
                                                                  i like the picks....we will talk after the sessions

                                                                  GL buddy
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61526

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Missed first practice. Anything interesting happen?
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                                                                    • flyboy
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-10-12
                                                                      • 748

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Just got into our hotel. Now ready for a weekend of gambling drinking and racing, not necessarily in that order!
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