PHOENIX--5mike5

[5mike5]

No only Newman so far most will be done Saturday

let me know what ya got bud...ive watched last 3 races at phoenix today.....its not all glamorious..

[5mike5]

eh mike, i saw that you replied twice after my post but had since been edited. im curious whats the original message? sorry i was busy at work, just got to this thread.

no idea buddy it was 14 hours ago...

been a LONG ass day of watching race tapes

[sharpcat]

...u act like i said hes winning the race or something...i use a roster and my own system that takes everything into consideration..its calulating risk and odds and having an entire roster, not pining my race every week on 1-2 drivers...thats why im able to do this full time....

every1 has their own opinion, but win or lose, doesnt make sense when u bet using system i use to leave the best drivers' off at their best tracks any week..that would just make 0 sense, and lose you ALOT of money in the long-run....too cheap to go ahead and put them on than be very sorry and out a ton of money if they win

and u thinking #48 team only has 10% chance to win ANY race tells me u dont know very much about NASCAR, much less his 2nd best track overall...and u thinking past performance doesnt mean anything in nascar??? also confirms this for me

The fact that you bet any more than one driver in a race when the house has a 30% over round tells me that you do not have the slightest bit of a clue about gambling and the math involved with it, let alone to bet 11 drivers. There is no possible way that 11 drivers can all have value when the book is charging you that high of a fee and there is no "SYSTEM" in the world that can turn negative expected value wagers to positive. I bet Tony loves booking your action!!!!!

I know, I know save your breath.....you are the self proclaimed NASCAR god and NASCAR pays your bills......blah.......blah.....blah..... ..I guess we will take your word for it since you never provide any proof of how much you are betting compared to how much you win. The one thing I am for sure of is that you have a 25% chance of picking the winning driver every weekend, I bet if you picked 11 more drivers in the race you would increase that win % to 50%


Grow up Mike I never insulted you I simply said I would be careful betting on JJ and you have a tantrum over it and take to insulting me.

You come across as an arrogant know it all prick!!!!!!

[5mike5]

25%-50%???

u dont have a clue bud

Lol

[5mike5]

just move along and start up somewhere else...TY

ur jealousy is embarassing and pathetic...so is ur "house" logic...and yeah MY system has worked 3 str8 years....dont get mad at me ur a losing gambler, find an edge and troll some1 elses thread or start ur own for gods sake...nobody that contributes to this thread every week wants to hear ur mouth...move along

[5mike5]

now for thigs related to this weekend....

[5mike5]

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[sharpcat]

funny i make a living doing this moron

You make a living doing this but you have not been limited at 5pennies yet


36 races in a season and you are excited when you have 1 winning week of $2,300

I bet you $5,000 that if you supply screen shots of your wagers to show just how much you wager per driver, that you will not be profitable at the end of the remaining season (let alone earn enough to "make a living off of")

You have told us all over and over again that you are a big shot who makes a living betting on NASCAR and how big your E-penis is, put your money where your mouth is Mike. Anybody can pick 11 drivers a week and come back and brag about how much the won when nobody knows how much they risked.

[5mike5]

A few longshots that ran strong on new configuration

Ambrose

Allmendinger

Newman

Dinger does have a 12.0 average finish position his last 4 phoenix outings...and at 30-1 currently he isnt a bad shot to take as a longshot, im just anxious to see if having the best equipment of his career will get him running in top 5 more and contending for actual wins this year..remains to be seen i guess

[5mike5]

only been at 5dimes not even 1/2 a season yet...if i get limited ill move on...not that big a deal..and also i gamble for a living, nascar brings in "most" of the money during the year, not ALL...

and me and my bank account could care less what u think bud...this thread is to help people and share info., trolling to be cute will just get u ignored here...as i will do from now on...OPs come here to share info and help each other win money...so be cute and try and get laughs on a different thread

[5mike5]

I'll be there all weekend, weeeee

are you going to nationwide race too? u actually live in phoenix?

[sharpcat]

$5k or what ever your bank account can handle Big shot

I will talk to Tony and we can make an arrangement to do it through 5dimes. I will even cover any fee Tony wants to charge.

[5mike5]

only 1 im planning on going to is Bristol on the 13th of march....i can just drive up there so not that big a deal to go to...i always go to the august night races up there, but never the Spring race...

[ebbearsfb1]

Really like hamlin this week... good luck with your plays... probably play some top 10s on guys this week

[5mike5]

Really like hamlin this week... good luck with your plays... probably play some top 10s on guys this week

thanks bears...GL to u as well buddy

what are u liking so far besides denny???.....i havent ever really got into the top 10 picks except on a few losing parlay tries at them...u play them single??

[5mike5]

Really like hamlin this week... good luck with your plays... probably play some top 10s on guys this week

Shaunovery (another guy here) posted that on page #1 that he likes DENNY as well here....he looked very determined last week and i think hes fired up to prove a point this year...plus JGR is my fav. team too so im always pulling for kyle/hamlin anyways...ill probably have him as well, im just waiting and hoping is odds will go up from +1050, but being its a flat track they probably wont unless he has a terrible pract/qualifying session....probably is smart to take him early....i havent added any1 today, but hes definatley on my short list...just with the early odds this week i cant take too many early bets, thats why ive just started with 2 big underdogs and jimmy

[5mike5]

another little fact i wasnt aware of until last night was that Ryan Newman has top 5 finish in 4 straight Phoenix races....he is the only driver that has all top 5s last 4 races there...jimmy is the closest with 3 of 4, and then only gordon and edwards have 2 of 4 top 5s last 4 races there

[ebbearsfb1]

Good info here mike... I'm at a busy past few days so I am actually at work now, looking up some info.. where do u go for your nascar information? Stats, etc?... you can pm me, if that's easier for you

[5mike5]

ive complied my own notebook on each driver and each track from the past 5 years or so...i dont use much except the last 3 years or so though when handicapping the races...i mean i also pick up info on the web when i see it or specifically looking for a certain thing...

i will tell you a good site for some averages/stats is driveraverages.com...great info there.anytime i want to see specific things i dont have or cant find right away this is the site i use.....gives u anything u need from drivers stats at every track and track type, ect......theres others a few posters may give u when they see this post, but not sure any would be better than that site imo anyways...

now for chassis information every week jayski.com will post those late in the week...i dont pay too much attention to that, but with everything i do look at them weekly on non-plate tracks but some guys really like to see that info

[ebbearsfb1]

Thanks mike, ill check out the driversaverage website... I've checked out jayski in the past, some good info there.... ill post my thoughts and leans in my thread feel free to pop your head in

[5mike5]

i will...like to see what ur thoughts are for this weekend...

and GOOD JOB on starting off the season on the right foot at daytona

u will really find the driveraverages.com site very very useful i think....let me know what ya think buddy

[soonerstud7804]

I am going to try and take a different approach too this years Nascar season. In the past I would throw 20 on my longshots and 50 on my favorites. didn't end up making money had too chase all week in basketball to catch up. by the end I was down too betting 10-20, this year with the cars seemingly so much alike I am gonna focus more on top 10's and matchups. i will throw some small action on the drivers who I like Just wondering what you thought of that mike. gl everyone.

[5mike5]

i mean sounds good to me, but i honestly havent ever tried it that way...i always bet 1-2 matchup parlays every week, but arent my main focus...and havent really ever started playing top 10s hard but seems to work for some on here...i may start to dabble in those this year myself

imo every different person should use whatever strategy suits them best...i dont "set an a certain"amount for each week, it just all depends on the odds at the time i make the wagers and the # of drivers i have to win the race....id say try it out and see how it works for ya over as long as you give urself time to make sure it works and dont abandon it too soon...i didnt make money for YEARS when i started betting nascar every week...LOL....i say try it out and see how it works for your individual betting style...

if u do let me know how it goes...

[soonerstud7804]

i mean sounds good to me, but i honestly havent ever tried it that way...i always bet 1-2 matchup parlays every week, but arent my main focus...and havent really ever started playing top 10s hard but seems to work for some on here...i may start to dabble in those this year myself

imo every different person should use whatever strategy suits them best...i dont "set an a certain"amount for each week, it just all depends on the odds at the time i make the wagers and the # of drivers i have to win the race....id say try it out and see how it works for ya over as long as you give urself time to make sure it works and dont abandon it too soon...i didnt make money for YEARS when i started betting nascar every week...LOL....i say try it out and see how it works for your individual betting style...

if u do let me know how it goes...

TY,gonna give it a dabble.Looks like Knaus is in some hot water again. suspended for 6 races and 25point dock...sucks for JJ.

[5mike5]

yeah hes always pushing the limits, but probably why that team is so good.....you know what they say in nascar, if u aint cheatin, u aint tryin...LOL...that C-Post is a stamped part provided by nascar too, so hard to argue why it was messed with.... so not sure why they even appealing except to lessen the hard hit a little...

since hendrick is appealing the suspension and pys deductions, Chad Kanaus will be on the pit-box this weekend, pending the appeal being heard by the board

[ebbearsfb1]

i will...like to see what ur thoughts are for this weekend...

and GOOD JOB on starting off the season on the right foot at daytona

u will really find the driveraverages.com site very very useful i think....let me know what ya think buddy

Defintely, this site is awesome, its what I've been looking for, rather than doing everything on my own, great work... thanks .... yeah its always nice to get on the right foot with the unexpecting daytona... looking at info during the morning will write thoughts later, busy between work hoops and nascar

[5mike5]

alright buddy....i may take a few cbb plays tonight myself, but i stink at actual basketball game betting....i just play around with player Props sometimes...just not good enough at cbb or nba to bet much on actual games

goodluck with ur bets

[ebbearsfb1]

Thanks I have a thread I just started in ncaa thread.. good luck with the props... here's to a profitable race this week... I won't shocked if jj wins though before knaus gets susspended... jj needs a big big showing this week

[5mike5]

Thanks I have a thread I just started in ncaa thread.. good luck with the props... here's to a profitable race this week... I won't shocked if jj wins though before knaus gets susspended... jj needs a big big showing this week

exactly what i was thinking...plus hes never 8-9 to 1 at phoenix, so at those odds he was well worth a place on my sheet

[Dad]

Good luck again this week, Mike!

[Dad]

Wow... Burton already down to +2800

and JJ down to +850

[5mike5]

Wow... Burton already down to +2800

and JJ down to +850

yeah kinda wierd burton dropped 5 points early...he was just a longshot i liked at bad odds..definatley not some1 i expect to win or anything, but never hurts to have longshots that are multi-time winners on a track..i definatley like newman as a longshot being this is his best track, and doesnt hurt hes still +2200 either...not sure if im adding anything else til after tomorrows practices, at least any of the top guys...im hoping the odds seperate a little bit after that

[ebbearsfb1]

Newman add plus 2200... I like... its his best track... been a stud at this track... nice write up on nascar.com about him

[5mike5]

Newman add plus 2200... I like... its his best track... been a stud at this track... nice write up on nascar.com about him

havent read it yet but i will...yeah +2200 when i bet him too early in week, just liked the value there...and i never bet newman hardly, but hes good here with 4 straight top 5s

[ebbearsfb1]

If you like head to head matchups... newman minus 105 vs. Kasey kahne good value on newman there also... few things its newmans best track... kahnes 16th best track.... kahne did win here last year so he may get overvalued a bit also... like newman there