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  • onlooker
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-10-05
    • 36572

    #526
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 52006

      #527
      it was worth all the wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      i love it when all the work during the week pays off like this

      WOOHOO
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 52006

        #528
        DEFINATLEY 1 of my top 2-3 largest prophits ever from nascar...and thats saying something

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        • SilverTongueFox
          SBR MVP
          • 11-23-10
          • 2338

          #529
          Appreciate the help 5mike. Out the 10 I picked had 8 in top 11.
          1 kennseth
          3 biffle
          4 hamlin
          6 Menard
          7 harvick
          8 Edwards
          9 lagono
          11 Bowyer
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          • 5mike5
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-21-11
            • 52006

            #530
            Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
            Appreciate the help 5mike. Out the 10 I picked had 8 in top 11. 1 kennseth 3 biffle 4 hamlin 6 Menard 7 harvick 8 Edwards 9 lagono 11 Bowyer
            TY but dont thank me buddy...u made those bets!!!!

            off to phoenix next weekend!!!!!!!!!!!
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            • SilverTongueFox
              SBR MVP
              • 11-23-10
              • 2338

              #531
              5mike - can you explain your cover bets on kesleskowski?
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              • finfan88
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-06-11
                • 676

                #532
                whats cover bets?
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                • 5mike5
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-21-11
                  • 52006

                  #533
                  Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
                  5mike - can you explain your cover bets on kesleskowski?
                  when i say "cover" that just means if that driver wins the money i win would basically only "cover" all my wagers and not bring any prophit, or none to speak of anyways...just little security....i bet so much each race i like a few drivers to if they win covers all my wagers on prophit drivers...it has paid off several times last few years...when u bet as much as i do on these races, i like to have 2-4 "covering" drivers...

                  just depends on the odds how many i take, just like odds depend on how may "prophit" guys i select each week
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                  • 5mike5
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 52006

                    #534
                    so lets say keslowsi or kyle would have won this race...then basically i would have got all my money back i bet on the race

                    if i was just betting a few 100 each week i wouldnt bother with a "cover" wager
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                    • 5mike5
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-21-11
                      • 52006

                      #535
                      well im going to enjoy this MASSIVE win and wake up in the morning and get my Phoenix driver books and track notebook out and get to work for the week!!!!



                      WHAT A NIGHT!!!!!!

                      swaiting to get graded out to see just how big it is, but +2700 with several 100 on it will pay off a BIG prophit....
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                      • finfan88
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-06-11
                        • 676

                        #536
                        ok thanks
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                        • SilverTongueFox
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-23-10
                          • 2338

                          #537
                          Got it. Thanks bro and congrats one the nice cash.
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                          • 5mike5
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-21-11
                            • 52006

                            #538
                            Originally posted by finfan88
                            ok thanks
                            Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
                            Got it. Thanks bro and congrats one the nice cash.
                            TY and and no problem....

                            im ready to do it all over again starting tomorrow
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                            • DiggityDaggityDo
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 11-30-08
                              • 81450

                              #539
                              Mikey Mike... sending u a few points for a proffitable night!!! I won almost 5 units. Thank u my freiend!!!
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                              • 5mike5
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-21-11
                                • 52006

                                #540
                                Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                Mikey Mike... sending u a few points for a proffitable night!!! I won almost 5 units. Thank u my freiend!!!
                                oh thanks buddy!...im just glad i could help out....i dont like to be responsible for wins or loses, but im pumped u won buddy!!!!

                                5 units a great night 4 ya!!!!

                                hopefully we can do it again next weekend

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                                • 5mike5
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-21-11
                                  • 52006

                                  #541
                                  4got to even check my H2H parlay too...not offical but not sure about it...ill check in the morning.....

                                  but its peanuts compared to the kennseth win so really doesnt matter i guess
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61530

                                    #542
                                    And the NASCAR forum is a happy place!!

                                    Congrats everyone who cashed.

                                    Nice work Mike
                                    .
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                                    • yisman
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-01-08
                                      • 75682

                                      #543
                                      Lars Anderson wrote in the SI preview of the Daytona 500:


                                      "...and her car co-owner/teammate Tony Stewart has already said he'll be her drafting partner in the late stages of Sunday's race."

                                      "With...Jeff Gordon leaning on his bumper on the final lap, Earnhardt is likely to end his drought to secure his second career Daytona 500 victory."



                                      =====

                                      That race sucked. Had Harvick and Burton in the thick of it, but there really wasn't much racing after the long delay. Mostly cautions.
                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                      [/quote]

                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 52006

                                        #544
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        And the NASCAR forum is a happy place!! Congrats everyone who cashed. Nice work Mike
                                        thank u Opti...great start to 2012 season!!!

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                                        • blackbeSSt
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-06-08
                                          • 9398

                                          #545
                                          mike, what advice would you give to people that are tailing your picks in regards to how much to wager. is flat betting the same amount per driver the best way to do it?
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                                          • 5mike5
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-21-11
                                            • 52006

                                            #546
                                            Originally posted by blackbeSSt
                                            mike, what advice would you give to people that are tailing your picks in regards to how much to wager. is flat betting the same amount per driver the best way to do it?
                                            i mean im not sure really what advice to give...i dont bet the same amount on each driver or race...all depends on the odds and mt analysis of each driver/track...

                                            probably all depends on how much money u are risking on the race/and how many drivers
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                                            • 5mike5
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-21-11
                                              • 52006

                                              #547
                                              **ALSO WON MY H2H 3MATCHUP PARLAY ON THE 500 (POSTED ON MY ROSTER)

                                              forgot to even look til this morning...LOL

                                              WHAT A NIGHT!!!!


                                              total prophit from daytona 500 wins: $2,388.55

                                              (from kennseth +2700, and my only H2H parlay that was a winner too)

                                              what a start

                                              ill be starting my phoenix thread for this weekend soon...already been working this morning on phoenix...
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                                              • blackbeSSt
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-06-08
                                                • 9398

                                                #548
                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                i mean im not sure really what advice to give...i dont bet the same amount on each driver or race...all depends on the odds and mt analysis of each driver/track... probably all depends on how much money u are risking on the race/and how many drivers
                                                so i guess we can't get a breakdown of how much you are wagering on each bet, even if just a 1x, 5x, 10x huh
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                                                • csavoia
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 10-08-11
                                                  • 194

                                                  #549
                                                  Hey guys I never bet NASCAR in my life and you come highly recommended Mike. How do you wager when you put your picks out here? Is it a system, or is thead to head? Any info or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

                                                  chris
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                                                  • Trident
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-07-09
                                                    • 2362

                                                    #550
                                                    Originally posted by blackbeSSt
                                                    so i guess we can't get a breakdown of how much you are wagering on each bet, even if just a 1x, 5x, 10x huh
                                                    Will never happen.
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                                                    • 5mike5
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                      • 52006

                                                      #551
                                                      i add to bets all the time...there is no 1x or 2x or 5x...i dont set an amount...thats why im successful at it

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                                                      • Trident
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-07-09
                                                        • 2362

                                                        #552
                                                        Originally posted by blackbeSSt
                                                        so i guess we can't get a breakdown of how much you are wagering on each bet, even if just a 1x, 5x, 10x huh
                                                        Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                        i add to bets all the time...there is no 1x or 2x or 5x...i dont set an amount...thats why im successful at it

                                                        Originally posted by Trident
                                                        Will never happen.
                                                        Nice spin job.

                                                        Why can't you post what you bet on each driver once the race starts?
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                                                        • 5mike5
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-21-11
                                                          • 52006

                                                          #553
                                                          i dont care what other wager and they shoulnt care what i wager...anybody that tails me so far has won money thats all i care about bud


                                                          if i dont post what u need dont troll my thread then...still lookin at the 500 thread...LOL

                                                          embarassing

                                                          thanks for the fanmail, but i got work to do for tomorrow
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                                                          • Trident
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-07-09
                                                            • 2362

                                                            #554
                                                            Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                            i guess i can didnt know any1 cared that much honestly...anybody that tails me so far has won money thats all i care about bud


                                                            if i dont post what u need dont troll my thread then...still lookin at the 500 thread...LOL

                                                            All you have to do is post it but you since you won't that tells me all I have to know.
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                                                            • 5mike5
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-21-11
                                                              • 52006

                                                              #555
                                                              good deal

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                                                              • sharpcat
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 12-19-09
                                                                • 4516

                                                                #556
                                                                Originally posted by Trident
                                                                Nice spin job.

                                                                Why can't you post what you bet on each driver once the race starts?
                                                                Because Mike is living in a fantasy world, he knows a lot about NASCAR but does not understand squat about the math involved in gambling.

                                                                He does not understand that there is no way that 10-12 drivers can all have value in a market where the house has the odds juiced up to a 30% over round.

                                                                He does not understand that no system or way of structuring your bets can change a -EV wager to a +EV wager.

                                                                He bets 10 drivers per race which are all negatively correlated because only one driver can win, so when he bets a driver at +1200 he is really getting +300.

                                                                Mikes strategy of picking 10 drivers per race is great for giving you a great shot of picking a winner every week but there is absolutely no way that anyone could be profitable doing this, it is the same thing as betting heavy chalk you will win most weeks but when that bad run comes you will get buried.
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                                                                • 5mike5
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                                  • 52006

                                                                  #557


                                                                  3+ years no bad streaks.....
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                                                                  • Trident
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-07-09
                                                                    • 2362

                                                                    #558
                                                                    Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                    Because Mike is living in a fantasy world, he knows a lot about NASCAR but does not understand squat about the math involved in gambling.

                                                                    He does not understand that there is no way that 10-12 drivers can all have value in a market where the house has the odds juiced up to a 30% over round.

                                                                    He does not understand that no system or way of structuring your bets can change a -EV wager to a +EV wager.

                                                                    He bets 10 drivers per race which are all negatively correlated because only one driver can win, so when he bets a driver at +1200 he is really getting +300.

                                                                    Mikes strategy of picking 10 drivers per race is great for giving you a great shot of picking a winner every week but there is absolutely no way that anyone could be profitable doing this, it is the same thing as betting heavy chalk you will win most weeks but when that bad run comes you will get buried.
                                                                    prophit winners:(no order)
                                                                    jimmy johnson(+900)
                                                                    smoke(+850)
                                                                    kahne(+1300)
                                                                    newman(+2500)
                                                                    hamlin(+1450)
                                                                    harvick(+1200)
                                                                    burton(+3300)

                                                                    covering winners:
                                                                    gordon(+1400)
                                                                    biffle (+1800)
                                                                    truex jr. (+4300)

                                                                    Originally posted by 5mike5


                                                                    3+ years no bad streaks.....
                                                                    So show us how you or anyone can bet ten drivers in a race and come away with a huge win which you stated after last weeks race.
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                                                                    • 5mike5
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                                      • 52006

                                                                      #559
                                                                      if u cant figure that out i feel bad 4 ya bud

                                                                      im in vegas for races...maybe next week ill give out lessons
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                                                                      • Trident
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-07-09
                                                                        • 2362

                                                                        #560
                                                                        Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                                        if u cant figure that out i feel bad 4 ya bud

                                                                        im in vegas for races...maybe next week ill give out lessons
                                                                        You ever hear of the old saying " The Math Doesn't Lie "

                                                                        Until you can prove that statement wrong I say you are the one who is lying.
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