NASCAR Punters Club 2012

[shaunovery]

PMed KC to make sure he knows he is up.

@Shaunovery can you please post your selections so we can use them if KC does not turn up by race time?

this is what i would go with


kyle busch +450 risking 6
jimmy johnson +1000 risking 4
harvick to bt brad k +120 risking 7
kyle/jimmy to win race +320 risking 3

[KC]

114056652-1	3/18/12 11:58am	$325.00	$250.00	Pending	3/18/12 1:00pm SprintCup Motor Racing 7508 Jeff Gordon #24 -130* vs Carl Edwards #99
114045154-1	3/18/12 10:07am	$125.00	$100.00	Pending	3/18/12 1:00pm SprintCup Motor Racing 8504 Jeff Gordon #24 -125* vs Carl Edwards #99
Totals:		$450.00	$350.00

This is what I played myself

[Optional]

Cool. Do you want the club's $20 on that then?

[DDT]

We need a win!

[shaunovery]

gl guys today

[Optional]

Had to go, so put your $20 on that same bet KC. Hope that's what you wanted to do.

Good luck team.

[Optional]

Here's Dew's bets as a reminder

113852066-1 3/17/12 8:04am $12.00 $60.00 Pending 3/17/12 9:30am Motor Racing Sprint Cup +500 Food City 500 - Kyle Busch
113852066-2 3/17/12 8:04am $7.00 $52.50 Pending 3/17/12 9:30am Motor Racing Sprint Cup +750 Food City 500 - Jeff Gordon
113852066-3 3/17/12 8:04am $1.00 $44.00 Pending 3/17/12 9:30am Motor Racing Sprint Cup +4400 Food City 500 - Jamie McMurray

[KC]

Thats's great thanks Opti..like our chances today..best of luck on your plays

[Optional]

Jeff Gordon win will suit us just fine

[DDT]

Nice call on Gordon, he beat Edwards even after he crashed out!

[KC]

In addition to keeping records and watching practice, it's worth a few minutes a week to follow the top drivers and check twitter. BK practically gave out a Namath like guarantee when he said he had the best car he's ever brought to Bristol (considering he won there last year).

[Optional]

Bristol Results

KC scores a $14.29 profit.

-$5.71 overall. New bankroll balance $280.49

Next weeks stake = 13% x 280 = $36 ($18 per punter)




Fontana Punters

Line 1: Wfan, Opti, CD, Shaun, Avs, KC, Rickie, DDT, Dew
Line 2: Shaun, Opti, Rickie, Wfan, DDT, Dew, CD, Avs, KC


Punters are Wolverinefan and Shaunovery with a stake of $18 each.

Target to punt again is $36 profit.

[shaunovery]

I want to go with

Kenseth +950 risking 4
Harvick +1150 risking 4

I'll post the rest at the weekend

[Optional]

Nice Shaun.

[Optional]

WolverineFan. Do you know you up today?

I'll be back about 1.30pm ET to place bets.

[shaunovery]

Kenseth to fin in top 5 +220
Harvick fin in top 5 +160

Risking 5 on each

[Optional]

Good luck Shaun.

[WolverineFan]

Stewart +925 for $5
Biffle +1150 for $5
Kahne +1400 for $4
Keslowski +2050 for $4

[Optional]

Did a little better on odds with the wait WF

Good luck team

[Optional]

If we don't restart, Shaun will hit Harvick Top 5 and WolverineFan will hit Smoke for the win, and $42 profit to punt again next week.

[DDT]

Nice job boys!

[KC]

Well done!

[Jay Price]

Nice hits fellas. We needed the results

[Optional]

Fontana Results

WolverineFan scores a $42.00 profit and will punt again next week.

Shaun hits Harvick Top5 for a $13 return.

+$37.00 overall. New bankroll balance $317.49

Next weeks stake = 14% x 317 = $44 ($22 per punter)

Club is now 13.39% ahead for the year.


Martinsville Punters

Line 1: Wfan, Opti, CD, Shaun, Avs, KC, Rickie, DDT, Dew
Line 2: Opti, Rickie, Wfan, DDT, Dew, CD, Avs, KC, Shaun


Punters are Wolverinefan and Optional with a stake of $22 each.

Target to punt again is $44 profit.


Let's both be punting again at Texas eh WV?

[KC]

Saw the prices at 5D this morning for Martinsville, not much value but I like Ryan Newman at 27-1, what do you guys like?

[shaunovery]

Hamlin jimmy and Stewart seem to go well there

[Optional]

Geez, there is a forest of favorites... Newman probably does represent some value but i'd like to see him practice well before jumping on him I think personally.


Tony Stewart +500
Jimmie Johnson +600
Kyle Busch +650
Carl Edwards +700
Kevin Harvick +750
Denny Hamlin +1200
Matt Kenseth +1200
Greg Biffle +1300
Brad Keselowski +1400
Jeff Gordon +1500
Dale Earnhardt Jr +1700
Kasey Kahne +2000
Clint Bowyer +4000
Ryan Newman +4500
Jeff Burton +6600
Juan Pablo Montoya +8000
Kurt Busch +15000


Denny has to be value at +1200 I think. He is in good form, must be fired up after losing 8 places through a pit call after last week (although that could work against him mind wise too I guess) and has an average finish of 3.7 here over the last 10 races (equal best with JJ) and won both races in 2010 before his poor 2011 season.

And Jeff Gordon who has 9 top 5s from his last 10 starts here might be worth some thought at +1500 I think?

I'm kinda sorta tempted by the +15000 on Kurt... just because 5Dimes never list anything that long, so it's probably forced value to offset all the short priced guys.

[Optional]

Ignore all that bullshit. I was looking at the Championship market


Denny Hamlin +550
Jimmie Johnson +550
Kyle Busch +650
Tony Stewart +675
Jeff Gordon +750
Kevin Harvick +950
Carl Edwards +1600
Dale Earnhardt Jr +1600
Brad Keselowski +1600
Kasey Kahne +2200
Ryan Newman +2700
Clint Bowyer +2700
Jeff Burton +3300
Matt Kenseth +3300
Jamie McMurray +3300
Martin Truex Jr +3800
Greg Biffle +3800
AJ Allmendinger +3800


Burton +3300 is the only thing that immediately jumps out at me. Have to think about it more.


5D have Jimmie up at +100 against Burton -130 for qualifying btw... can't see why. Anyone got any thoughts before I jump on it?

[Optional]

I've made my first bet of the week for the club

A $5 open parlay on JJ over Burton in quali.

Just 1 leg left open for a win bet on someone.

I have $17 left to punt with.

[Optional]

"Parlay wager 115352423-1 posted on Tuesday, Mar 27 2012 4:11PM was deleted on Tuesday, Mar 27 2012 11:19PM.

Motor Racing - 6002 Jimmie Johnson (Qualifying) +100 for Game Risking $5.00 to win $5.00

Reason: Clear line error due to a wrong matchup Contact customer support if you need further clarification regarding this deleted ticket."

[WolverineFan]

Man i was lookin at at stuff yesterday and I thought that was a cazy line...Man thats sucks they deleted it...Hope we can cash again this week

[Optional]

^^^ yeah, easy to believe it was an error.

Don't really like the proclamation that it was "Clear line error" though. If it was clearly an error to me I would not have bet it, and no other expert here popped up suggesting it might be either. What's 'clear' from a bookmaker's point of view, or in hindsight, is not always clear to us players looking at a fresh market.

Tony likes to assume we all want to jump on errors but does not seem to realize us dumbass punters also assume some basic stuff. Like he knows something we don't most times we see a price we like a lot.

Last race he and Greek had a matchup priced the opposite way around. Are we to expect to get bets cancelled in that situation too, as clearly one of them had a 'clear line error'. Or did they? I posted that here too and no one jumped up and said that looks like an error. 5D has had what look like 'clear line errors' on Marcos Ambrose prices I have pointed out more than once this year too. 'Clear errors' against the player don't come into the equation of thinking though of course.

Anyway, easy to see why the attitude puts people off. Displays no sense of fairplay, even when the attitude is not needed. Could easily have just said "We made an error and need to cancel this bet". No issues at all this end. People make mistakes. But to put that simple extra word displays the arrogance of a business we probably should not trust to do the right thing if a real problem ever arises.

As much as I like 5 Dimes, for a bunch of reasons, it's the little stuff like this that makes it impossible to love or fully trust them.

[5mike5]

i have to say that seems like a clear error of jimmy +100 over burton in qualifying...(at any track really)

guessing they meant it to be Gordon, not burton??

just glancing over my notebook i think jimmy has beat him 9 of last 10 qualifying sessions at the paperclip...shouldnt give u attitude anyways though

[WolverineFan]

I'm kinda liking Gordon and Jr as long shot 2day...I post shortly still looking over some stats will get back within the hr

[WolverineFan]

$7 on 24 to win
$5 on 88 to win
$7 on 29 to win
$3 on 39 to win