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  • Optional
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    • 06-10-10
    • 61516

    #1
    2012 NASCAR Games/Comps
    Posting this early so the non-pros can start transferring early for the season if they like.


    Feb 18 - Vegas suggested we try and have a game for The Shootout this year. Usually most people don't re-appear in this forum until Daytona weekend but we will give it a try. No idea of format yet. Will post it a few days before the race.

    Feb 26 - Restart the Weekly Picks Game for Daytona. I'm thinking we should keep a similar format and buy-in price but maybe freshen it up a bit. Maybe something like picking the first car to drop out of the race, or the highest finishing Chevy/Ford/Toyota as tiebreakers? Or just keep it the same?

    I liked the Season Long pool last year. And this year I'll PM the 30 odd people who played last year so everyone gets a chance to get in from race 1. I might even split it it into three 12 race series, or four 9 race series, so latecomers have a better chance this year. Suggestions?

    Punters Club - We have 2 options. All put in our points again, and place our bets in Thad's point book and SBRbook when we can. I've asked Thad if he will give us greatly increased limits so we can do this. If Thad cannot accommodate us I will do the sane as last year. Buy 5 Dimes cash with the points then at the end of the year withdraw our winnings and buy SBR points with them to distribute.

    A show of hands of how many might be interested in joining the punters club this year would be good too.
    Buy in will likely be 500 for pros and 100 for non-pros.


    I like the ESPN fantasy stockcar challenge game, but our pool around it become a little boring last year. Haven't really thought about it yet but think we need to change up the format somehow to make that worth continuing.

    Hopefully we can start to get some more member to member points betting action in here this year too. Anyone with a bank of points feel like offering a NASCAR prop point for the sub-forum this year?

    Anyway, that's the current plans. If anyone else wants to do something or make any suggestions go for it. Probably won't finalize anything until mid-February.
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  • Vegas39
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-22-11
    • 30686

    #2
    Will transfer daily

    Ready for some racing
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    • DDT
      SBR MVP
      • 03-22-09
      • 3757

      #3
      I want in Punters Club!
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 52006

        #4


        but i have no idea how to transfer points...
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        • 5mike5
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-21-11
          • 52006

          #5
          thanks to DDT taking the time to explain how to transfer i started...ill be PRO status b4 the season starts but i started the 2pts a day thing today

          its close boys>...
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          • rickie65
            SBR MVP
            • 08-27-07
            • 2895

            #6
            I'm in as usual for punters club and weekly season long pool Opti!


            Originally posted by Optional
            Anyone with a bank of points feel like offering a NASCAR prop point for the sub-forum this year?
            possibly, since i have some points....what do you have in mind??
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61516

              #7
              I'll get the threads up this weekend.

              Not going to bother about a game for The Shootout, as way too busy right at this minute. So if anyone else wants to organize a warm up game for next week please go ahead.
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              • CarolinaDaze
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-07-09
                • 6845

                #8
                Cool almost here again, yeah im in all again this year.
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                • DDT
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-22-09
                  • 3757

                  #9
                  We've gotta get a game going for the shootout!
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                  • luvtogamble
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-21-11
                    • 1084

                    #10
                    glad to see the season back and only change I would make would be to maybe have a few more matchups as have had to change my picks so would not be same as someone else and have no chance of winning.so picking early would not be a advantage as I do not study till late saturday or early sunday after I hear the pit chiefs report. do like the 2 tiebreakers.

                    also would like to see 2 places or even top 3 if we can get enough interest. in favor of the season long contest or a contest broke down into segments.

                    would also like to join the punters club whatever it is.

                    thanks optional for running this fun contest and best of luck this year
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                    • BET THE HOOK
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-16-09
                      • 1947

                      #11
                      I want a shootout game too
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61516

                        #12
                        First up, sorry for leaving this much later than I initially said. Quite frankly I have been considering if I will really have enough time to do it again this year. Do it reliably anyway. Last year I was bumming around living off old webmaster work I had done so had lots of time. Now I've committed to a new project and will need to be working most of my waking hours for a while to make it a success.

                        Anyway, enough about me, I decided it was worth a try. But hopefully someone might step up to help with the scoring this year?



                        Points Held For People

                        As of right now here is the totals I have;

                        Vegas39 50 points
                        StanleySharp 58 points
                        5mike5 20 points
                        Rickie65 500 points

                        You guys please just post how many points you want to play for that week in the game thread, along with your remaining balance. So we can just jump back to the previous race's thread to check if we need to.



                        2012 Games

                        I'm not going to do the ESPN Stockcar game game this year. But I'll play if someone else wants to handle it.

                        I'm going to keep the Weekly Picks Game almost the same, but instead of picking First and Second places for the tiebreaker. 2nd tiebreaker will be the number of cars finishing on the lead lap. And we split prizes after that. No time based tiebreaker.

                        @Luvtogamble I prefer not to add an extra matchup, as I have found it gets tough to find 5 interesting ones without repeating the same drivers a lot as it is. But do agree it's a good idea to make it easier to come up with a unique set of picks if I continue to wait until Friday to post the matchups. I could post them early in the week, which I realize does not solve your problem about finding a unique set late, but means it's fairer as early posters will have to go ahead and guess with no practice info to get an early spot. Does the second tiebreaker being how many lead lap finishers help solve the issue do you think? Maybe an extra matchup would be the easy way. Any opinions welcome.

                        I'm up for more comments about the prize split. Personally it was all a bit messy when we tried to pay multiple places at the end of last year. And some prizes got quite small. For me, in a points game, quite small is no fun for a prize. But like I said, would like to hear more opinions.

                        Average prize was 260 points last year.



                        For the Season Long Pool I think we should split the season into 3 x 12 race segments. Based on last year that will give us a bit over 400 points for a prize each 12 races.

                        The 1 worst result would be dropped per segment (so we can miss a week without penalty)

                        50%, 30%, 20% for prizes maybe? (200/120/80 approx)

                        Maybe someone else could step up and handle this game for me? Just requires updating a spreadsheet with everyone's scores from the weekly games and posting a leader board each week.



                        Punters Club

                        Will again be pretty much the same format from last year.

                        We can handle up to 10 players and still give everyone a decent chance at making picks I think.

                        The 7 players from last year have first option at a spot, then it's first in first served.

                        For those that didn't play last year. We all put in about 400 points and I buy $280 sportsbook cash at 5Dimes with it.

                        Names are randomly ordered in 2 seperate lists. The 2 names at the top of the lists will be punters that week.

                        The punters make picks for the club with 10% of the bankroll each, so $28 worth of best each at first race. I place the bets at 5Dimes.

                        If the punter wins double their stake or more, they stay at the top of that list to punt again next race.

                        I'll post more detail in the thread when I make it later today.

                        Entry fees:

                        7 players = 540 points each
                        8 players = 472
                        9 players = 420
                        10 players = 378



                        I'll make new threads for each game later today. Any more late suggestions for changes go ahead.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61516

                          #13
                          Just had another thought.... instead of me making up matchup picks each week, I could start using the head to heads 5 Dimes post early in the week?

                          Would be more sensible for us to talk about real available bets too I guess.

                          Can't hurt to try it and see how it works out eh?
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                          • DDT
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-22-09
                            • 3757

                            #14
                            I think that's a great idea Opti! I would love to put my money with my mouth is!
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                            • WolverineFan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-12-10
                              • 1299

                              #15
                              Hey Opti I would like to do stock car challenge if we canget enough to do it I could probably do it 4 ya
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                              • DDT
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-22-09
                                • 3757

                                #16
                                I am also willing to help out any way I can
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61516

                                  #17
                                  Cool, Thanks Guys.

                                  Do you know what to do Wolverine?

                                  Here's the thread from last year: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nascar-bet...challenge.html

                                  CarolinaDaze will probably assist if you need any help too. (might need to go a page or two into thread before we settle on how we did it last year.)


                                  And DDT, if you want to handle the Season Long pool scoring and updates that would be great too. Will shoot you a copy of the spreadsheet if you email me. Think you have the addy?
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                                  • DDT
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-22-09
                                    • 3757

                                    #18
                                    Email sent my friend!
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                                    • CarolinaDaze
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-07-09
                                      • 6845

                                      #19
                                      Yes Wolverine i know you played alot last year, was in our weekly 25pt side bet also, but didn't see you for the chase? Last year we all put up 100 points each per session(1 session at a time), we paid out the Top 3 something like 70%-20%-10% plus some would side bet 25 for highest score on a given weekend. There was 11 races in 1st session, 15 in the 2nd session, & 10 in the chase. Opti would always post weekly and overall standing once a week usally sunday night/monday morning. I say lets play, set it up, lets get all the players we can b4 sunday.
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                                      • CarolinaDaze
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-07-09
                                        • 6845

                                        #20
                                        The 70-20-10 % we may have tweeked that figure to pay 3rd alittle better???
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61516

                                          #21
                                          I'd suggest letting CD do it if he wants to Wolverine. He's usually around the rest of the forum as well as here all year. I forgot about you going missing at the end of last year. Glad to see you back
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                                          • WolverineFan
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-12-10
                                            • 1299

                                            #22
                                            Yea that b fine to let CD do it No prob... was gonna do if noone else had time...GL and glad NASCAR season is back
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61516

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              Vegas39 50 points
                                              StanleySharp 58 points
                                              5mike5 20 points
                                              Rickie65 500 points
                                              Just making sure you guys saw this.

                                              Mike... you playing this week?

                                              Stanley, you posted in game thread that you have 44 balance left. Plus you added 4 points to that thread. Does that mean you want 18 points on the picks game, for 80% of the prize, this week?
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                                              • 5mike5
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-21-11
                                                • 52006

                                                #24
                                                well yeah ill play but do i need to transfer u more points??

                                                been 4getting but only sent like 30 something or so

                                                and what/where are things are we picking?(remember ive never done this)
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61516

                                                  #25
                                                  No, that was the idea of sending to me early in this thread. So you don't have to dick about as much for each game.

                                                  Just post your picks and how many points you are in for (minimum 4 and max 22)

                                                  And leave your balance in that thread like StanleySharp did under his post. (so we know where to check it next race)
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                                                  • 5mike5
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                    • 52006

                                                    #26
                                                    exactly what picks am i suppose to post???

                                                    whatever it is ill risk them all damn it--LOL

                                                    sent 2 more just now
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 61516

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                      exactly what picks am i suppose to post???

                                                      whatever it is ill risk them all damn it--LOL

                                                      sent 2 more just now
                                                      LOL, ok.

                                                      Here is the weekly game thread

                                                      Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                      Pick the winner of the 6 matchups there. The race winner. And number of cars that manage a lead lap finish.
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                                                      • 5mike5
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                        • 52006

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                        LOL, ok. Here is the weekly game thread http://forum.sbrforum.com/nascar-bet...l#post13888597 Pick the winner of the 6 matchups there. The race winner. And number of cars that manage a lead lap finish.
                                                        oh ok i saw that "weekly picks trhread" ok i got it...ill go do it in just a minute...

                                                        thanks for taking the time to help a rookie out...lol
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61516

                                                          #29
                                                          To save yourself having to do multiple transfers next week, I suggest you maybe don't use your entire 22 on a 100% entry.

                                                          I think you will find it handy to have a few points up your sleeve for the weeks you forget to post up until race day, so can't manage the full 4 minimum.

                                                          4 points = 20% of the prize. every extra 2 points adds 10% to the prize amount. (yeah I know 22 should give you 110% by that formula, but it doesn't.)
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                                                          • onlooker
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 36572

                                                            #30
                                                            Off topic, but do you sleep Opti?
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61516

                                                              #31
                                                              I have been sleeping very erratically lately. Just 2 or 3 hours at a time. Here and there. Got several things on my plate and each time I finish one thing another person needs something. Getting a little but burnt out actually. :\

                                                              5pm here right now... hoping to get into bed by about 7pm and sleep until 2 or 3.00am or so if I can manage it. (midday your time is 4.00am)
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                                                              • onlooker
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 36572

                                                                #32
                                                                Get some rest bud.
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61516

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If you can tell I need it from there, i really must.

                                                                  zzzzz
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