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  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    • 04-04-11
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    #1
    F1 Chinese Grand Prix - notes
    Finished

    12.04.2019 02:00, Shanghai International Circuit, 1 lap: 5.451 km
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    Driver
    Team
    Time
    Laps
    Grid
    Pit


    1.
    Bottas V.
    Mercedes
    1:33.330
    37




    2.
    Vettel S.
    Ferrari
    +0.027
    33




    3.
    Verstappen M.
    Red Bull
    +0.221
    29




    4.
    Hamilton L.
    Mercedes
    +0.707
    32




    5.
    Hulkenberg N.
    Renault Sport
    +0.766
    31




    6.
    Sainz C. Jr.
    McLaren
    +0.811
    36




    7.
    Leclerc C.
    Ferrari
    +0.828
    13




    8.
    Norris L.
    McLaren
    +0.966
    38




    9.
    Ricciardo D.
    Renault Sport
    +1.006
    32




    10.
    Gasly P.
    Red Bull
    +1.125
    32




    11.
    Raikkonen K.
    Alfa Romeo
    +1.221
    33




    12.
    Albon A.
    Toro Rosso
    +1.304
    37




    13.
    Kvyat D.
    Toro Rosso
    +1.364
    20




    14.
    Stroll L.
    Racing Point F1
    +1.449
    37




    15.
    Perez S.
    Racing Point F1
    +1.454
    35




    16.
    Magnussen K.
    Haas
    +1.458
    34




    17.
    Grosjean R.
    Haas
    +2.374
    32




    18.
    Giovinazzi A.
    Alfa Romeo
    +2.584
    40




    19.
    Kubica R.
    Williams
    +2.791
    38



    20.
    Russell G.
    Williams
    +2.899
    35
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    • 04-04-11
    • 37354

    #2
    20.00
    Odds to win Chinese Grand Prix
    Charles Leclerc 2.550
    Sebastian Vettel 2.850
    Lewis Hamilton 4.600
    Valtteri Bottas 10.140
    Max Verstappen 14.420
    Pierre Gasly 47.960
    The Field 112.920
    20.00
    Odds to win Final Qualifying Session
    Sebastian Vettel 2.330
    Charles Leclerc 2.960
    Lewis Hamilton 4.950
    Valtteri Bottas 9.100
    Max Verstappen 21.030
    Pierre Gasly 114.890
    The Field 68.020
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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    • Optional
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      • 06-10-10
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      #3
      I have Hamilton to win qualifying in a couple of hours +450

      Also took him to do pole/race double +1000

      And took Verstappen to set fastest lap early at +1000
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      • unlearn
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        • 03-22-14
        • 9034

        #4
        Hamilton +275 to win the pole now even after being 4th fastest in P3. Head scratcher but I will bite because I'm stuck a fukk load today what's another hundo
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        • Optional
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          • 06-10-10
          • 61502

          #5
          had the time conversion wrong. Quali in 20 mins.

          Hamilton did not get a mock quali lap in is why he is 4th in P3.

          And just realized I only have +350 on Ham for pole, $4.50 dec
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          • unlearn
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            • 03-22-14
            • 9034

            #6
            1 hour til qualifying I thought? 2:00 EST
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            • unlearn
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              • 03-22-14
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              #7
              Ham+275 $100
              Bottas+350 $50
              (Pole bets)

              Ferrari can eat my ass. Cost me so much last week with that cylinder failure
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              • Optional
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                • 06-10-10
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                #8
                Originally posted by unlearn
                1 hour til qualifying I thought? 2:00 EST
                oh yeah, had it right to start with.
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                • Optional
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                  • 06-10-10
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                  #9
                  Damn it. Bottas.

                  right team, wrong driver.
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                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                    • 04-04-11
                    • 37354

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    Damn it. Bottas.

                    right team, wrong driver.
                    Opti...your racing info has been good. Keep it going.

                    F1 is fascinating to me. So many little things to consider. I wish the betting mkt was a little better.
                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61502

                      #11
                      Bottas looking the man to beat tomorrow. Even if Lewis wins start he has been faster 5 out of 6 sessions so far.

                      Although temperature is supposed to be cooler tomorrow. That might alter things a little bit too.
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                      • unlearn
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                        • 03-22-14
                        • 9034

                        #12
                        Bottas+150 now at my book. Any value?
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                        • Optional
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                          • 06-10-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by unlearn
                          Bottas+150 now at my book. Any value?
                          I dunno, probably be a coin flip v Hamilton. Whoever wins start and gets pit stop priority probably the one. Bottas looks very strong though. And hard to bet against him when last time he looked this strong in Australia he whipped the entire field.

                          LeClerc +650 looks the value to me in win market. But value doesnt mean he'll win of course.
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                          • unlearn
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                            • 03-22-14
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                            #14
                            I have LeClerc +900 on bovada.
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                            • semibluff
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                              • 04-12-16
                              • 1515

                              #15
                              Historically cars that look good in Bahrain tend to look good in China. Ferrari starting as 62-38 favourites over Mercedes before 1st practice looked to be correct. P1 and P2 were close with Mercedes showing a small but noticeable advantage. The same thing happened in P3 with Bottas again looking more comfortable than Hamilton. All of Hamilton's qualifying simulations were hampered so his times were not representative. Qualifying results were in line with practice performance. Mercedes will be tough to beat from a front row lock-out. I don't see anything that looks to be value betting-wise. Good luck to those who are braver than me.
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                              • pabonaparte
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                                • 01-21-16
                                • 3566

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                I dunno, probably be a coin flip v Hamilton. Whoever wins start and gets pit stop priority probably the one. Bottas looks very strong though. And hard to bet against him when last time he looked this strong in Australia he whipped the entire field.

                                LeClerc +650 looks the value to me in win market. But value doesnt mean he'll win of course.
                                He is +150 to beat Vettel (bet365). I like it!
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                                • unlearn
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                                  • 03-22-14
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                                  #17
                                  Took Bottas +155
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                                  • Optional
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                                    • 06-10-10
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                                    #18
                                    With the low temps I have added Bottas to NOT lead first lap


                                    good luck all
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                                    • unlearn
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                                      • 03-22-14
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                                      #19
                                      Good call wish I took Hamilton +175 instead
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                                      • pabonaparte
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-21-16
                                        • 3566

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        With the low temps I have added Bottas to NOT lead first lap


                                        good luck all
                                        Thanks, Optional!

                                        Money in the bank.
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                                        • unlearn
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                                          • 03-22-14
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                                          #21
                                          Going to bed. Lewis gonna win by 30 seconds
                                          No fast lap bets so I dont give a shit
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                                          • Optional
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                                            • 06-10-10
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                                            #22
                                            Ferrari cocking the race strategy up for themselves.

                                            Happens so often.
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                                            • Optional
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                                              • 06-10-10
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                                              #23
                                              Gasley drops in for new tyres with 2 laps to go and steals fast lap. Right team, wrong driver again

                                              He was 18/1 last I noticed his odds.


                                              that's 10/1, 10/1 and 18/1 for fastest lap first 3 races. Kind of surprised, thought this new rule would see more leaders taking it.
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                                              • semibluff
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-12-16
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                                                #24
                                                D- for Ferrari's strategy today. Mercedes have the Driver and Constructor's titles effectively sewn up. Ferrari have favoured Vettel over Leclerc twice now, so that looks like 3rd and 4th sorted out. Verstappen is fighting for crumbs and Gasly is so far off the pace he'll be replaced. 3 races down and the season is over. Bummer.
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                                                • Optional
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                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61502

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by semibluff
                                                  D- for Ferrari's strategy today. Mercedes have the Driver and Constructor's titles effectively sewn up. Ferrari have favoured Vettel over Leclerc twice now, so that looks like 3rd and 4th sorted out. Verstappen is fighting for crumbs and Gasly is so far off the pace he'll be replaced. 3 races down and the season is over. Bummer.
                                                  I said before the race to a friend, "whats the odds Ferrari rooster up strategy again?"

                                                  He tried to tell me they never do and what was I talking about.

                                                  After race I said THAT is what I was talking about, and he still demands they did nothing wrong.

                                                  Anyway, glad to see someone else saw it same way as me.
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                                                  • semibluff
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-12-16
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    I said before the race to a friend, "whats the odds Ferrari rooster up strategy again?"

                                                    He tried to tell me they never do and what was I talking about.

                                                    After race I said THAT is what I was talking about, and he still demands they did nothing wrong.

                                                    Anyway, glad to see someone else saw it same way as me.
                                                    Ferrari had 3 choices.
                                                    1) They could cover the 1st Verstappen pit stop and have whichever driver pitted then drive slowly enough in foront of Verstappen so the other driver could pit and come out ahead.
                                                    2) They could delay the 2nd driver's stop, switch to a 1 stop strategy with the 2nd driver and use whoever was ahead of Verstappen to prevent him catching the 1 stop driver.
                                                    3) They could have left the other driver out on a 1 stop strategy hoping for a safety car, and if things went South pit late and go for the fastest lap.
                                                    Instead they meekly accepted 3rd and 5th with no fastest lap and dropped 3 points. Talking about holding up Bottas was BS. There was nothing that was going to get Vettel into 2nd today. They concentrated on a battle they couldn't win and ignored the battle they could win. Really poor strategy effort today. Congrats to Mercedes and Red Bull on maximising what was available. Oh well, I'll take my beer money win and move on to Baku! (The manager in my local BetFred phoned for permission to take my bet at -300! ****ing kids! )
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