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  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 51821

    #1
    LAS VEGAS motor speedway---
    Alright guys we are heading to LAS VEGAS motor speedway for the 1st stop of the annual NASCAR West coast swing at the start of each season.Vegas also got a 2nd date this season and will be kicking off the Championship run in September for the 1st time...This year will be a triple header weekend, with the Truck series racing on Friday Night 8pm on FS1, then Saturday on FS1 at 3:30pm and ending the weekend with the big Cup race airing on FOX at 3pm..All times are EST..

    Las Vegas motor speedway is a 1.5 mile asphalt oval with variable banking in all 4 turns of 12-20 degrees with banking on the front and back stretches measuring at 9 degrees flat...Truex won this event last season as this was the only Vegas race last season...

    The big question regarding this week is how much stock do we all put into how GREAT the Fords looked at Atlanta, and how bad the new Chevy looked..this track is not rough and old like Atlanta is and not sure if it will even matter..These are the type questions that we have every season and why early betting can be very risky and tricky to start off every new racing season...

    As always everybody's opinions, thoughts, and picks are always welcomed and encouraged...Always helps to have a lot more than 1 opinion and we have good nascar posters here...Season has started with 2 good weekends so hopefully we can make it a trifecta to start the season off!!!


    GOODLUCK!!!!


  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 51821

    #2
    odds posted up for cup last hour
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 51821

      #3
      holy shiiiiiit

      POL:E WINNER now available at dimes...ALWAYS wanted this option

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      • SBR Drew
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-08-18
        • 7351

        #4
        Live now in SBRbook

        NASCAR PROPS - Mar 02
        Mar 02 - 2:05 PM PENNZOIL 400 WINNER
        1 KEVIN HARVICK +500
        2 MARTIN TRUEX JR +550
        3 BRAD KESELOWSKI +650
        4 KYLE LARSON +600
        5 KYLE BUSCH +650
        6 CHASE ELLIOTT +1000
        7 JIMMIE JOHNSON +1200
        8 JOEY LOGANO +1300
        9 DENNY HAMLIN +1500
        10 RYAN BLANEY +2000
        11 CLINT BOWYER +2000
        12 KURT BUSCH +2000
        13 ERIK JONES +2500
        14 ARIC ALMIROLA +2500
        15 DANIEL SUAREZ +4500
        16 PAUL MENARD +6000
        17 RYAN NEWMAN +6500
        18 ALEX BOWMAN +7500
        19 JAMIE MCMURRAY +7500
        20 AUSTIN DILLON +7500
        21 WILLIAM BYRON +7500
        22 RICKY STENHOUSE JR +10000
        23 KASEY KAHNE +10000
        24 TREVOR BAYNE +10000
        25 DARRELL WALLACE JR +10000
        26 TY DILLON +10000
        27 CHRIS BUESCHER +10000
        28 AJ ALLMENDINGER +10000
        Mar 02 - 2:05 PM POLE POSITION - PENNZOIL 400
        1 KYLE BUSCH +500
        2 BRAD KESELOWSKI +500
        3 KYLE LARSON +500
        4 MARTIN TRUEX JR +600
        5 JOEY LOGANO +600
        6 KEVIN HARVICK +700
        7 RYAN BLANEY +700
        8 RYAN NEWMAN +1000
        9 KURT BUSCH +1000
        10 CHASE ELLIOTT +1000
        11 THE FIELD ALL OTHER DRIVERS +200
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        • 5mike5
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-21-11
          • 51821

          #5
          just used my FP pts on some truex +550

          pretty cool i dont have to waste any FP i get on sports im just guessing at....love the new nascar options in the book

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          • 5mike5
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-21-11
            • 51821

            #6
            pole winner odds also in SBR book!

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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 60712

              #7
              Agree with your thoughts Mike.

              How the hell do we know if Ford are also good there (should be fine I'd guess) but more importantly, are Chevy and Hendrick way behind to start the year?


              Of course would just jump on Larson early here if Chevy was known to be fine. But going to have to wait I guess. Although practice in Atlanta didn't really reveal what was going to happen in the race for me.

              Will take him in Xfinity and have another shot at Gragson in Trucks. He came home like a steam train on that last re-start. Anyone who can pass 9 trucks in 2 laps when he needs to is worth watching I think.



              Some odds worth grabbing in the SBR Book compared to 5Dimes prices.


              NASCAR Cup Series Pennzoil 400

              Kevin Harvick +500
              Martin Truex Jr +500
              Kyle Busch +650
              Brad Keselowski +650
              Kyle Larson +650
              Chase Elliott +1150
              Joey Logano +1350
              Jimmie Johnson +1350
              Denny Hamlin +1650
              Ryan Blaney +2150
              Clint Bowyer +2250
              Kurt Busch +2250
              Erik Jones +3300
              Aric Almirola +3300
              Daniel Suarez +6600
              Paul Menard +8800
              Ryan Newman +8800
              Alex Bowman +10000
              Jamie McMurray +10000
              Austin Dillon +10000
              William Byron +10000
              Ricky Stenhouse Jr +20000
              Kasey Kahne +30000
              Trevor Bayne +30000
              Darrell Wallace Jr +30000
              Ty Dillon +50000
              Chris Buescher +100000
              AJ Allmendinger +100000


              NASCAR Cup Series Pole Position - Pennzoil 400

              Martin Truex Jr +500
              Kyle Busch +550
              Brad Keselowski +550
              Kyle Larson +550
              Kevin Harvick +850
              Joey Logano +850
              Ryan Blaney +850
              Ryan Newman +1150
              Chase Elliott +1350
              Kurt Busch +1350
              Ricky Stenhouse Jr +1650
              Erik Jones +2650
              Denny Hamlin +2750
              Clint Bowyer +2750
              Jimmie Johnson +3300
              Aric Almirola +3300
              Daniel Suarez +3300
              Paul Menard +4400
              Alex Bowman +4400
              William Byron +4400
              Jamie McMurray +5500
              Austin Dillon +8800
              Kasey Kahne +8800
              Trevor Bayne +8800
              Darrell Wallace Jr +10000
              Ty Dillon +10000
              Chris Buescher +10000
              AJ Allmendinger +10000



              Xfinity Boyd Gaming 300

              Kyle Busch +165
              Kyle Larson +300
              Ryan Blaney +350
              Christopher Bell +750
              Cole Custer +1350
              Austin Dillon +2000
              Elliott Sadler +2250
              Justin Allgaier +2750
              Tyler Reddick +3300
              Brandon Jones +3850
              Daniel Hemric +8800
              Matt Tifft +20000
              Ryan Truex +20000
              Ryan Reed +20000
              Austin Cindric +20000


              Trucks Stratosphere 200


              Kyle Busch -170
              Johnny Sauter +650
              Matt Crafton +850
              Noah Gragson +950
              Ben Rhodes +1150
              Brett Moffitt +1650
              John Hunter Nemechek +2250
              Justin Haley +2250
              Spencer Davis +2250
              Grant Enfinger +2750
              Myatt Snider +5500
              Dalton Sargeant +5500
              Stewart Friesen +5500
              Cody Coughlin +20000
              Austin Hill +30000
              Last edited by Optional; 02-27-18, 05:46 PM.
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              • 5mike5
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-21-11
                • 51821

                #8
                looking like they are also posting finishing position props again.....and u can parlay them
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                • 5mike5
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-21-11
                  • 51821

                  #9
                  Trucks:

                  Gragson (+950)
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                  • 5mike5
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 51821

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                    Trucks:

                    Gragson (+950)
                    Rhodes (1350)

                    those 2 are all i will have to won unless they let us kyle parlay in trucks with other nascar plays. If.not.its just not worth the risk for me
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                    • 5mike5
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-21-11
                      • 51821

                      #11
                      weather report:

                      no chance of rain this week since were are in the desert, but Vegas is having a cold front move in and the temp wont be getting out of the mid 50's...a cold ass race for vegas
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                      • 5mike5
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 51821

                        #12
                        Odds still havent moved much at all, and after watching Fords completely dominate the entire race and the new Chevy Camaro look terrible in its down force debut, a lot of bettors may just need to see more track time...i know i am...how much of that was just a 1 off on a old racetrack and how much maybe a really big problem going forward on down force tracks for the Camaro...Maybe a little bit of both

                        Penske always is so strong at Vegas, I'm still thinking about Blaney and Logano early based off opening numbers, but havent pulled the trigger...
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60712

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 5mike5
                          Odds still havent moved much at all, and after watching Fords completely dominate the entire race and the new Chevy Camaro look terrible in its down force debut, a lot of bettors may just need to see more track time...i know i am...how much of that was just a 1 off on a old racetrack and how much maybe a really big problem going forward on down force tracks for the Camaro...Maybe a little bit of both

                          Penske always is so strong at Vegas, I'm still thinking about Blaney and Logano early based off opening numbers, but havent pulled the trigger...
                          I took Logano for pole. Only one close to his record qualifying here is his team mate BradK

                          But am going to risk losing the good numbers and wait to see all of practice this week, after getting totally killed fading Ford early last race.
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 60712

                            #14
                            Toyota +140
                            Chevy +180
                            Ford +240

                            Books seem to have had Ford as the dog almost every race. All through last year too.

                            They were so wrong last week with +400, there might be value in fading them on this still at +240
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                            • 5mike5
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-21-11
                              • 51821

                              #15
                              those are surprising to me...not sure how Chevy could be favored over ford this week....HMS looked horrific last week and JJ isnt JJ much these days so besides Larson not sure why they are so much better than fords with SHR and the new team Penske squad
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 60712

                                #16
                                I took a boxed double (3 x 2 leg parlays) on these three.

                                Trucks Kyle -135
                                Xfinity Blaney +450
                                Cup Ford +240


                                Trucks

                                Rhodes +1400
                                Gragson +800


                                Cup

                                Logano +1300 (as i think he might take pole and end up lower later)
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 60712

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 5mike5
                                  those are surprising to me...not sure how Chevy could be favored over ford this week....HMS looked horrific last week and JJ isnt JJ much these days so besides Larson not sure why they are so much better than fords with SHR and the new team Penske squad
                                  Plus, what exactly has Toyota shown so far to be so favored over both too?
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                                  • reigle9
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-25-07
                                    • 17879

                                    #18
                                    That ford line makes no sense. It won't be that way when dimes lists it.
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                                    • reigle9
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-25-07
                                      • 17879

                                      #19
                                      What is that book called you get nascar lines from? Suppose it's not open to the US?
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 60712

                                        #20
                                        https://crownbet.com.au/sports-betti...67175-26838490 and definitely would not be open to US players.

                                        Originally posted by reigle9
                                        That ford line makes no sense. It won't be that way when dimes lists it.
                                        Yeah that's at Crownbet. Greek has it as T +150, C +175, F +225

                                        Not sure what US facing books have it up early. Not 5D or BOL. Maybe Bookmaker?
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                                        • 5mike5
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-21-11
                                          • 51821

                                          #21
                                          we can't parlay Kyle again in the truck race with anything else NASCAR related

                                          thats gone for good it seems
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                                          • reigle9
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-25-07
                                            • 17879

                                            #22
                                            Quick glance, they seem to have some nice odds.
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                                            • 5mike5
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-21-11
                                              • 51821

                                              #23
                                              Truck practice today at 5pm and 7pm

                                              not televised for me
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 60712

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by reigle9
                                                Quick glance, they seem to have some nice odds.
                                                Yeah, plus you can increase the odds by using reward points. I took Logano from +1200 to +1300 for a buck worth of points.

                                                Problem is, if you win too much at any Aussie book they limit you and take away all the perks.

                                                So it's not all wonderful. 5D better overall if I had to choose one.

                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                we can't parlay Kyle again in the truck race with anything else NASCAR related

                                                thats gone for good it seems
                                                Not sure you should be with 5D having him at -200 again anyway. He isnt that sure. Truck teams too close on equipment quality this year.
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                                                • 5mike5
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                  • 51821

                                                  #25
                                                  damn it was down to -130, seems that was the low buying point..i would have taken that if it was parlayable

                                                  yeah i would have lost on trucks last week because i would have had him there had i bet it

                                                  I see Gragson and Rhodes both seem to be taking on early action off those opening numbers..good for us
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 60712

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                    damn it was down to -130, seems that was the low buying point..i would have taken that if it was parlayable

                                                    yeah i would have lost on trucks last week because i would have had him there had i bet it

                                                    I see Gragson and Rhodes both seem to be taking on early action off those opening numbers..good for us
                                                    Oh, you are right.

                                                    Wonder what made me think it was -200


                                                    Trucks Stratosphere 200

                                                    Kyle Busch -130
                                                    Johnny Sauter +600
                                                    Noah Gragson +775
                                                    Matt Crafton +850
                                                    Ben Rhodes +1000
                                                    Brett Moffitt +2250
                                                    John Hunter Nemechek +2250
                                                    Field (any other driver) +2500
                                                    Justin Haley +2750
                                                    Spencer Davis +2750
                                                    Grant Enfinger +3300
                                                    Myatt Snider +5500
                                                    Dalton Sargeant +5500
                                                    Stewart Friesen +5500
                                                    Cody Coughlin +20000
                                                    Austin Hill +30000
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                                                    • 5mike5
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                      • 51821

                                                      #27
                                                      It may have been, opened at -170 so its been moving
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                                                      • 5mike5
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                        • 51821

                                                        #28
                                                        Blaney (+2000)
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                                                        • 5mike5
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-21-11
                                                          • 51821

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                          Blaney (+2000)
                                                          reason behind this was just the odds were too good for me to pass up. has finished 6th and 7th in his 2 races here and now hes with the team with the best results last few years.
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 60712

                                                            #30
                                                            Stewart Friesen +5500 and Brett Moffitt +2250 both showing front running speed and also took a lot less laps to get there than most other teams during the first 2 practice sessions.

                                                            Be interesting to see what they open back up at.
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                                                            • GT21Megatron
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-20-13
                                                              • 10818

                                                              #31
                                                              The fantasy setup going now sucks donkey dicks....We still can’t pick our drivers for Las Vegas. It’s Friday. It’s some AA fantasy nascar site who isn’t holding up to there end of the bargain. Not sure whose call this was but it’s a penetrating nightmare...I have the balls to say it. This is bad and I can’t believe more aren’t complaining
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                                                              • reigle9
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-25-07
                                                                • 17879

                                                                #32
                                                                they were up monday
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                                                                • GT21Megatron
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-20-13
                                                                  • 10818

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by reigle9
                                                                  they were up monday
                                                                  No standings and can’t set lineups yet for Las Vegas...penetrating Busch league
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 60712

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by GT21Megatron
                                                                    The fantasy setup going now sucks donkey dicks....We still can’t pick our drivers for Las Vegas. It’s Friday. It’s some AA fantasy nascar site who isn’t holding up to there end of the bargain. Not sure whose call this was but it’s a penetrating nightmare...I have the balls to say it. This is bad and I can’t believe more aren’t complaining
                                                                    No one else is complaining because you have been able to make picks for Las Vegas for days

                                                                    Click here: https://fantasyracingonline.net/our-...t/enter-picks/
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                                                                    • GT21Megatron
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-20-13
                                                                      • 10818

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Take that back....I can do it now...Thursday at 10:40
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