MICHIGAN--5mike5

[VegasNative]

In wager history it shows loss. In account balance it shows refund.

Sure does, I didn't even catch that. Thanks for the heads up.

[5mike5]

Stations refunded my Field bet. Called them to see what was up, and they said it was incorrect odds. But no alert or anything. I asked them would they of refunded it if it won? The guy said he didn't know what they would of done.

So Vegas Native or any other local out there that have paper tickets, take them in and get your refund.

honestly always had a hard time believing any book that fukked up that bad would let people rape them THAT bad...but dosnt matter now at least it lost and got some $ back!

win/win

[5mike5]

So many chances in NW race

Marcos Ambrose
Sam Hornish Jr
Ron Fellows
AJ Allmendinger
Nelson Piquet Jr
Max Papis
Owen Kelly
Michael McDowell

should get good odds on most of them...who knows what to expect as a 1st time race there....pretty damn sure a great road racer on that list will win it though..

besides papis

[onlooker]

honestly always had a hard time believing any book that fukked up that bad would let people rape them THAT bad...but dosnt matter now at least it lost and got some $ back!

win/win

I would of been in there b!tching. They should of voided the bet right away. Just good thing he lost I guess.

[5mike5]

Oh I totally agree its just bad business to wait til after the race when they knew almost immediately

[yisman]

I can't imagine a place paying 150/1 or whatever on a bet that would've been roughly 4/1 at the time (if you factor in the rest of the field, maybe more like 3/1 or +250). A smaller error, sure, but 50 people could've noticed that and maxed field before they took it down. That's an enormous loss.

they should've voided it right away but whoever was grading was not on the same page with whoever was saying the bet was valid.

[Optional]

Greek prices


101 Jimmie Johnson +600
102 Kyle Busch +800
103 Greg Biffle +900
104 Carl Edwards +900
105 Kasey Kahne +900
106 Matt Kenseth +900
107 Dale Earnhardt Jr +1000
108 Brad Keselowski +1200
109 Martin Truex Jr +1400
110 Kevin Harvick +1400
111 Clint Bowyer +1400
112 Kurt Busch +1400
113 Denny Hamlin +2000
114 Jeff Gordon +2000
115 Joey Logano +2500
116 Ryan Newman +3000
117 Austin Dillon +4000
118 Mark Martin +4000
119 Jamie McMurray +4000
120 Jeff Burton +5000
121 Field +2500

[shaunovery]

Greek taking no chances with 14 drivers 14-1 or less

[shaunovery]

Wide open cup race this weekend

[5mike5]

Not very good odds, actually mostly god awful...well won't be that good anywhere PRE sessions which mean nothing here even less than they usually mean

TERRIBLE odds on roucsh teammates. Yuck! Alot of these odds will be better POST sessions this week cause whereby qualify means absolutely nothing at all here but books will still overreact the same way Rey always do.

[5mike5]

Won't post any early plays til I decide how many times I'm betting any early picks and such and see if any odds get better. Not doing much early I think most odds suck even though its better than anywhere else I've seen of course

[Optional]

Greek prices


101 Jimmie Johnson +600
102 Kyle Busch +800
103 Greg Biffle +900
104 Carl Edwards +900
105 Kasey Kahne +900
106 Matt Kenseth +900
107 Dale Earnhardt Jr +1000
108 Brad Keselowski +1200
109 Martin Truex Jr +1400
110 Kevin Harvick +1400
111 Clint Bowyer +1400
112 Kurt Busch +1400
113 Denny Hamlin +2000
114 Jeff Gordon +2000
115 Joey Logano +2500
116 Ryan Newman +3000
117 Austin Dillon +4000
118 Mark Martin +4000
119 Jamie McMurray +4000
120 Jeff Burton +5000
121 Field +2500

and 5D

Jimmie Johnson +625
Kyle Busch +850
Greg Biffle +975
Carl Edwards +975
Kasey Kahne +975
Matt Kenseth +975
Dale Earnhardt Jr +1100
Brad Keselowski +1300
Martin Truex Jr +1550
Kevin Harvick +1550
Clint Bowyer +1550
Kurt Busch +1550
Denny Hamlin +2200
Jeff Gordon +2200
Joey Logano +2700
Ryan Newman +3300
Austin Dillon +4400
Mark Martin +4400
Jamie McMurray +4400
Jeff Burton +5500

[5mike5]

Some of those have changed at 5d opti, Jimmie opened +675

[yisman]

I heard JPM is not returning to earnhardt/ganassi

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2013/08/13/juan-pablo-montoya-ganassi-racing/2650311/

Juan Pablo Montoya won't return with Earnhardt Ganassi Racing in the Sprint Cup Series next season, two team officials told USA TODAY Sports.
The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because it is team policy not to comment on driver contracts.
The news of Montoya's impending departure, which was first reported by the Associated Press, was announced to team members Tuesday at the EGR shop in Concord, N.C.

[Optional]

I heard JPM is not returning to earnhardt/ganassi

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2013/08/13/juan-pablo-montoya-ganassi-racing/2650311/

Juan Pablo Montoya won't return with Earnhardt Ganassi Racing in the Sprint Cup Series next season, two team officials told USA TODAY Sports.
The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because it is team policy not to comment on driver contracts.
The news of Montoya's impending departure, which was first reported by the Associated Press, was announced to team members Tuesday at the EGR shop in Concord, N.C.

wow... so many drivers not placed next year it leaves me worried about my Marcos' seat.

[5mike5]

Not surprising, kinda of expected this as heard dr punch say this was coming weeks ago when I posted asking if contract was up and I wasn't aware. I mean honestly that team has 2 dead in the water drivers in JPM and Mac. They need a boost of something

[Optional]

Some of those have changed at 5d opti, Jimmie opened +675

If it wasn't posted it didn't happen!

[Optional]

Any idea if JPM wanted to move or EGR wanted him out?

[5mike5]

If it wasn't posted it didn't happen!

Hahaha. Oh it happened

[5mike5]

Any idea if JPM wanted to move or EGR wanted him out?

why would he want to move? Not like he's gonna get any kind of a decent ride. I think that's over for him. No teams want aome1 that only has about 2-3 chances to win in any given season anymore imo.

especially with 0 oval wins in all his yrs

[yisman]

Not surprising, kinda of expected this as heard dr punch say this was coming weeks ago when I posted asking if contract was up and I wasn't aware. I mean honestly that team has 2 dead in the water drivers in JPM and Mac. They need a boost of something

I'm confused. Does Dr. Punch read the boards? Or did he just happen to say it when you posted?

I read you said he lives near you.

[5mike5]

Yes he lives here. Hes on the local sports radio station usually for a Q and A session and gives all kinds on inside info and garage talk. Usually a couple hrs a week.

i heard him mention JPM contract was up and I wasn't even aware it was this yr and said there wasn't any push to bring him back from what he was hearing

[Chicago Joe]

I read today that Austin Dillon will be in the #14 (he's also doing nationwide in Ohio), and that they'll be evaluating it week by week as to what driver is in the car.

Dillon is a good fit with SHR's sponsors. Being in the hunt for the Nationwide championship and conflicting schedules, it’s likely he will be just out for a Sunday drive at Michigan.

[JayHorne3]

I know this is one of Biffle's best tracks and he has a pair of wins here including the June race but is anyone else staying away considering how awful the #16 team has been in the last month and a half? Looking for others thoughts as I may stay away unless he gets a better number for value.

[Reno Paul]

Read that Kyle Larson may get a shot to drive for EGR....Montoya should go back to open wheel where he started.

http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/Race-Series/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup/News/Articles/2013/08/Montoya-Will-Not-Return-To-EGR-Next-Season.aspx

[5mike5]

I know this is one of Biffle's best tracks and he has a pair of wins here including the June race but is anyone else staying away considering how awful the #16 team has been in the last month and a half? Looking for others thoughts as I may stay away unless he gets a better number for value.

That was a gift win imo. Jimmie was on a rail and Every Hendricks car had trouble and the caution fell perfect. He's good here of course but those odds are a complete joke imo too as he opened 17-1 in June. I'm not taking him no matter what his odds are but that's just me

[onlooker]

With their big screw up last week, SC are taking their time this week in releasing odds.

[MatI]

I heard JPM is not returning to earnhardt/ganassi

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2013/08/13/juan-pablo-montoya-ganassi-racing/2650311/

Juan Pablo Montoya won't return with Earnhardt Ganassi Racing in the Sprint Cup Series next season, two team officials told USA TODAY Sports.
The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because it is team policy not to comment on driver contracts.
The news of Montoya's impending departure, which was first reported by the Associated Press, was announced to team members Tuesday at the EGR shop in Concord, N.C.

Wow, that is really surprising IMO.

Co-owner Felix Sabates confirmed late Tuesday afternoon to SiriusXM NASCAR Radio’s "Sirius Speedway" that the team did not renew Montoya’s contract for next season.


"We are still hoping to get some things worked out with Juan," Sabates said. "We don’t want to elaborate on that now. It was a difficult decision. He understands. He’s a professional. You’ve got to move on with your life sometimes."


Using that kind of wording makes me think they might be trying to get him a drive in another Ganassi car. Maybe back to IndyCar but I cannot see them pushing aside Franchitti or Dixon.

[onlooker]

Nationwide entry list.

00	Blake Koch	TBA	Melissa Sciavicco	Toyota
01	Mike Wallace	teamjdmotorsports	Johhny Davis	Chevrolet
2	Brian Scott	Shore Lodge	Richard Childress	Chevrolet
3	Austin Dillon	AdvoCare	Richard Childress	Chevrolet
4	Kevin Lepage	teamjdmotorsports.com	Gene Vess	Chevrolet
5	Ron Fellows	Aer Manufacturing	Rick Hendrick	Chevrolet
6	Trevor Bayne	Nationwide Children's Hospital	Jack Roush	Ford
7	Regan Smith	Nationwide Children's Hospital	Kelly Earnhardt-Miller	Chevrolet
9	Marcos Ambrose	Stanley	Richard Petty	Ford
10	Jeff Green	TriStar Motorsports	Mark Smith	Toyota
11	Elliott Sadler	OneMain Financial	J.D. Gibbs	Toyota
12	Sam Hornish Jr.	Alliance Truck Parts	Roger Penske	Ford
14	Eric McClure	Hefty/Reynolds	Mark Smith	Toyota
15	Stanton Barrett	TBA	Rick Ware	Ford
18	Michael McDowell	K-Love	Joe Gibbs	Toyota
19	Mike Bliss	TriStar Motorsports	Mark Smith	Toyota
20	Brian Vickers	Dollar General	Joe Gibbs	Toyota
22	AJ Allmendinger	Discount Tire	Roger Penske	Ford
23	Anthony Gandon	Rick Ware Racing	Robert Richardson Sr.	Ford
24	Derek White	VIP Poker	Jason Sciavicco	Toyota
30	Nelson Piquet Jr.	Worx	Harry Scott Jr.	Chevrolet
31	Justin Allgaier	Nationwide Children's Benefit/Accudoc	Steve Turner	Chevrolet
32	Kyle Larson	McDonald's	Harry Scott Jr.	Chevrolet
33	Max Papis	Rheem/Menards	Richard Childress	Chevrolet
40	Reed Sorenson	E-Swisher	Curtis Key Sr.	Chevrolet
42	Jason Bowles	Curtis Key Plumbing	Curtis Key Sr.	Chevrolet
43	Michael Annett	Pilot Travel Centers	Richard Petty	Ford
44	Chad Hackenbracht	Tastee Apple Inc.	Mark Smith	Toyota
46	T.J. Bell	Curtis Key Plumbing	Curtis Key Sr.	Chevrolet
51	Jeremy Clements	TBD	Tony Clements	Chevrolet
52	Ryan Ellis	TBA	Jimmy Means	Chevrolet
53	Andrew Ranger	Waste Management Bagster	Robert Torriere	Dodge
54	Owen Kelly	Monster Energy	J.D. Gibbs	Toyota
60	Travis Pastrana	Nationwide Children's Hospital	Jack Roush	Ford
70	Tomy Drissi	TBA	Mary Louise Miller	Toyota
74	Kevin O'Connell	TBA	Mike Harmon	Chevrolet
75	Kenny Habul	SunEnergy 1	Kenny Habul	Toyota
77	Parker Kligerman	Bandit Chippers	Kyle Busch	Toyota
79	Jeffrey Earnhardt	Unsponsored	Archie St. Hilaire	Ford
86	Tim Cowen	Cowen Logistics	Scott Deware	Ford
87	Kyle Kelley	Jamison Eng./1stClassAutoBody.com	Andrea Nemechek	Toyota
99	Alex Bowman	TBA	Robby Benton	Toyota

[5mike5]

Optional ur boy Owen is a nice +1650 right now

[5mike5]

Vickers officially named full-time driver of the #55 for next season.

First time I've heard it was official

[onlooker]

Vickers officially named full-time driver of the #55 for next season.

First time I've heard it was official

NASCAR posted on Facebook around 8am this morning.

http://www.nascar.com/content/nascar/en_us/news-media/articles/2013/08/13/michael-waltrip-racing-brian-vickers-aarons-toyota-two-year-deal.html

[5mike5]

I definitely wouldn't have seen it there.

Just happened to be up watching nascarnow at 2am. Lol

[5mike5]

Not sure why but that picture is funny as shit. He looks goofy doesn't he?

[onlooker]

Not sure why but that picture is funny as shit. He looks goofy doesn't he?

I chuckled when I was scrolling Facebook earlier today.

I had to post it here, because of the goofiness.