POCONO #2--5mike5

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 09:34 AM

Guess they read the tread too. LOL

Vegas39 · 08-02-13, 09:37 AM

Would not shock me at all

Vegas39 · 08-02-13, 11:17 AM

Opti your boy has a shot at a pole today among fastest in practice and goes out last to qualify

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 12:35 PM

Brad didn't last long at his opening # for nationwide did he. Lol.

crazy part is he will have to start dead last since I'm almost positive he won't be qualifying that car

Vegas39 · 08-02-13, 12:48 PM

Yes no way he can qualify and do cup Happy Hour

Vegas39 · 08-02-13, 01:07 PM

ok after looking he may qualify . Happy Hour 8 am Pacific and NW Qual at 2PM Pacific

onlooker · 08-02-13, 01:53 PM

Nationwide:

Elliott Sadler +1200

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 02:11 PM

I didnt like brad at +250 much less now. Think its a dumb move until we see how if he qualifies. I like dillon and not sure about brad yet. Just depends but more than likely a open parlay bet at best. He's not Kyle an shouldn't be that low imo. Larson 20-1 not bad either but I've almost gave up on him. He hasn't done jackshit in months

onlooker · 08-02-13, 03:14 PM

Kyle put down a hell of a lap. Going to be interesting to see if anyone can beat it.

onlooker · 08-02-13, 03:19 PM

Oh shit. The #48 team scrabbling to get out to qualifying. Going through inspection 3 times. Here we go again. I hope he can pass inspection after qualifying this time.

onlooker · 08-02-13, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

Kyle put down a hell of a lap. Going to be interesting to see if anyone can beat it.

Originally posted by onlooker

Oh shit. The #48 team scrabbling to get out to qualifying. Going through inspection 3 times. Here we go again. I hope he can pass inspection after qualifying this time.

Jimmie knocked Kyle off pole, but can he pass inspection.

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 04:52 PM

Always nice to see an early bet on the pole!

Vegas39 · 08-02-13, 05:07 PM

Helluva lap by the 48

Slimpickens · 08-02-13, 05:10 PM

Its almost getting to the point that nascar isnt any fun to watch with that arrogant prick #48 dominating nearly every week. What the fukk makes them so superior?

onlooker · 08-02-13, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

Its almost getting to the point that nascar isnt any fun to watch with that arrogant prick #48 dominating nearly every week. What the fukk makes them so superior?

I'm surprised that they don't help the other Hendrick teams with their setups. Wouldn't Hendrick want all 4 cars running that good every week?

Slimpickens · 08-02-13, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

I'm surprised that they don't help the other Hendrick teams with their setups. Wouldn't Hendrick want all 4 cars running that good every week?

My goodness, you would think so wouldnt you. If #48 wins on Sunday which I fully expect he will I am retiring from nascar betting. Atleast for this year. Just retired from golf betting today.

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:03 PM

They do but like dale and Jeff don't like jimmies setup. Least that's what they say. Some can't drive the cars with another setup. They don't build them any diff.

and most of it is Jimmie is an amazing driver and chad an amazing crew chief

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:12 PM

U could put 99% of all other drivers in that #48 car and they couldn't come close to doing Jimmie has done. And I'm not a Jimmie Fan either that's just the truth.

always a dominant driver in every generation and he's just it now

Vegas39 · 08-02-13, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

U could put 99% of all other drivers in that #48 car and they couldn't come close to doing Jimmie has done. And I'm not a Jimmie Fan either that's just the truth.

always a dominant driver in every generation and he's just it now

Add to that no driver / crew chief combo has near the chemistry Jimmie and Chad have

Optional · 08-02-13, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Opti your boy has a shot at a pole today among fastest in practice and goes out last to qualify

He seems to looks speedy this time of year every year. Too little too late again! (although a win here and one at the Glen might change my attitude on that

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Originally posted by onlooker

Nationwide:

Elliott Sadler +1200

Can't believe he is being offered at that price eh? 5 starts, 5 top 5s, 1 win, 3 poles... Nice for us.

Originally posted by 5mike5

I didnt like brad at +250 much less now. Think its a dumb move until we see how if he qualifies. I like dillon and not sure about brad yet. Just depends but more than likely a open parlay bet at best. He's not Kyle an shouldn't be that low imo. Larson 20-1 not bad either but I've almost gave up on him. He hasn't done jackshit in months

Dillon has to be the 3rd guy

Originally posted by Slimpickens

Its almost getting to the point that nascar isnt any fun to watch with that arrogant prick #48 dominating nearly every week. What the fukk makes them so superior?

Originally posted by 5mike5

U could put 99% of all other drivers in that #48 car and they couldn't come close to doing Jimmie has done. And I'm not a Jimmie Fan either that's just the truth.

always a dominant driver in every generation and he's just it now

Jimmie isn't the best driver out there by a long shot. His Nationwide and other lower series record prove that imho.

Why he and Chad win, and why it pisses people off that they do, is that they follow the formula to the Nth degree. Get every little thing right. "Cap the odds" of any decision and always make the "right" decision, even if it doesnt work out, like a pro bettor they know they did it right anyway (or when they called it wrong)

It's winning by perfection. Which is boring after a while.

And a little like Michael Schumacher in F1 who created an incredible record in a similar manner, without being the best driver out there, people aren't inspired by those sort of tactics.

onlooker · 08-02-13, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

They do but like dale and Jeff don't like jimmies setup. Least that's what they say. Some can't drive the cars with another setup. They don't build them any diff.

and most of it is Jimmie is an amazing driver and chad an amazing crew chief

I don't think they help as much as they want us to believe.

I understand the driver and crew chief being a big part, but the likes of Gordon and Kahne, they should be able to do more with those setups the 48 has/have. The 48 just seem so much faster then the 5, 24 and 88.

Optional · 08-02-13, 07:37 PM

Agree, you don't normallly see a big disparity betweem team cars in other teams.

But Jimmie is not really whipping them all all the time. Quite a few times recently I recall all 4 Hendrick cars running in top 5 or 6

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:39 PM

Opti imo there isn't many drivers better than Jimmie. Others could jump in and not do what he does. U see it all the time its just they have it all worked out to a tee. He might not be the best, but no1 is better imo. At least with cup cars It's not just the car. Other team members have no reason to lie about that stuff. Just the opposite.

they are the best driver/chief team in the series and it shows. They know exactly what each other needs to win.

Slimpickens · 08-02-13, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

U could put 99% of all other drivers in that #48 car and they couldn't come close to doing Jimmie has done. And I'm not a Jimmie Fan either that's just the truth.

always a dominant driver in every generation and he's just it now

99%? I find that alittle hard to believe.

Optional · 08-02-13, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

Opti imo there isn't many drivers better than Jimmie. Others could jump in and not do what he does. U see it all the time its just they have it all worked out to a tee. He might not be the best, but no1 is better imo. It's not just the car. Other team members have no reason to lie about that stuff. Just the opposite.

they are the best driver/chief team in the series and it shows. They know exactly what each other needs to win.

I didn't mean to sound like I was directly contradicting you there. Was meant to ber a reply to both Slim and you.

He's definitely among the top handful of drivers. Didn't mean to suggest he is a donk or anything

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:43 PM

Most people know what I meant slim, I'm sure there are 2. Lol. Jk. There isn't many at all. Its not just about the car. They know what Jimmie needs and chad gives it to him.

he isn't close to the best pure overall driver, but as a team no1 is close because of chad and his combo. They have cup cars figured out

all just my 3 cents and I can't stand him. Lol

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:46 PM

Kyle Busch is the best overall driver.

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I didn't mean to sound like I was directly contradicting you there. Was meant to ber a reply to both Slim and you.

He's definitely among the top handful of drivers. Didn't mean to suggest he is a donk or anything

i know bud. We need a good rival like Gordon and dale Sr. Use to be!

Optional · 08-02-13, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

Kyle Busch is the best overall driver.

We should have a poll about this, and set some criteria.

I agree Kyle could very well be the best out there, but the best driver for me means being able to get in anything with a motor and win a race in it. And we only think Kyle can do that. Smoke and Gordon and Montoya... and maybe Kahne, maybe Robby Gordon?? lol depending on criteria.

Sure Ive forgotten other obvious contenders too.

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:53 PM

id take Stewart over everybody if that's the criteria. Meaning jump in anything car wise. Kyle is great in stock cars but a few of those guys are much more well rounded in any car

Optional · 08-02-13, 07:55 PM

I'd like to see Montoya, Kurt Busch and Robby Gordon in a figure 8 race.

5mike5 · 08-02-13, 07:56 PM

Is JPM contract up after this season?

Optional · 08-02-13, 08:00 PM

No idea. haven't seen any talk of him so I'd guess not.

onlooker · 08-02-13, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

Its not just about the car.

Originally posted by Optional

but the best driver for me means being able to get in anything with a motor and win a race in it. And we only think Kyle can do that..

I'm a Kyle Busch fan, but he couldn't win in his own equipment in Nationwide. That's why he moved back to JGR.

So it is about the car and equipment, along with driver and crew chief. It all has to add up.

Optional · 08-02-13, 08:59 PM

I meant just be capable of winning in anything, not having to do it every attempted season.