PHOENIX--5mike5

[5mike5]

well at least i learned all i need to know

im going full throttle from here on out

[5mike5]

congrats to edwards though

i would never bet him anywhere

[5mike5]

oh caution.....i turned the channel...lol

[Optional]

Go Jimmie go!

[5mike5]

well edwards need to win

hes now been released from my ill never bet on him again jail cell

[Optional]

Nice to see Edwards and a Ford put it together. Been a long time and thought neither had much chance.

[Louisvillekid1]

well at least i learned all i need to know

im going full throttle from here on out

It was a good race, I thought you're boy Keselowski had it for a while there...

GL

[Vegas39]

Hamlin +800

Newman +4000

Kenseth +1600

Biffle +170 over Martin

Jr +140 over Gordon

H2h helped today

[5mike5]

Nice to see Edwards and a Ford put it together. Been a long time and thought neither had much chance.

i agree

completley shocking actually for any1 thats hasnt won a race in last 70, and only 1 last 140

[Reno Paul]

Edwards may be a consideration again in the future.

Used to win with him a few years back.

[shaunovery]

wouldnt have backed edwards well done to him

[Vegas39]

i agree

completley shocking actually for any1 thats hasnt won a race in last 70, and only 1 last 140

phoenix seems place to end winless streaks

[5mike5]

well time to start getting ready for Vegas

only bright side is we knew not to risk and go all-out to start the season...at least thats been a plus...plus winning both nationwide races helps

take a day for rest and then its time to start vegas preps

[Vegas39]

well time to start getting ready for Vegas

only bright side is we knew not to risk and go all-out to start the season...at least thats been a plus...plus winning both nationwide races helps

take a day for rest and then its time to start vegas preps

vegas

[5mike5]

Edwards may be a consideration again in the future.

Used to win with him a few years back.

i agree...glad he won since none of us had him

[flyboy]

wooo whooo My first win of the year and at +1800 it was a good one!

[flyboy]

Hey hey now I had him. lol

[Optional]

Congrats Flyboy!

Now thats a winner.

[flyboy]

Thanks Opti, hopefully a lot more to come for all of us!

[5mike5]

nice job Flyboy!

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Damn.

That mother fukker hasnt won a race in 2 years.

[yisman]

yahoo and espn never fixed it I guess. They both claim Candyass started 4th.

[flyboy]

nice job Flyboy!

Thanks Mike.

[DDT]

Nice job Fly...I can't believe you bet him

[CarolinaDaze]

Where were ya'll, Carl's car was wicked fast this week, lots of people were talking about it, and it was only 2 years ago he was a dominating driver, and he's ran pretty good at Phoenix b4 so I think he was definitly worth a look this week. But oh well live & learn, on to the next 1.

[DDT]

Where were ya'll, Carl's car was wicked fast this week, lots of people were talking about it, and it was only 2 years ago he was a dominating driver, and he's ran pretty good at Phoenix b4 so I think he was definitly worth a look this week. But oh well live & learn, on to the next 1.

Good Question CD

[5mike5]

Where were ya'll, Carl's car was wicked fast this week, lots of people were talking about it, and it was only 2 years ago he was a dominating driver, and he's ran pretty good at Phoenix b4 so I think he was definitly worth a look this week. But oh well live & learn, on to the next 1.

i dont bet drivers that havent won but 1 race in 140 (except Jr @ mich last yr )....

and basing picks just cause he looks fast in practice doesnt mean alot to me, hes looked good in practice alot last few years, and wasnt that fast this week, his 10-laps avg didnt even crack top 10...thats why practices dont mean much to me and reading too much into them will bury nascar bettors...was just his time finally..nice to see him win though

will lose ur ass doing that in long run, i learned that a long time ago

if i bet 10 drivers he wouldnt have been 1

off to the next 1 guys, vegas then bristol!!!

[shaunovery]

agree with mike you cant bet drivers who havent won in a couple of yrs this wek it was his time and id rather leave them sort of rivers alone in the long run it will pay off

[5mike5]

ill start the VEGAS thread tonight or in the morning.....

im going back to regular bets and not holding back starting now....nothing has changed in cars really, so i dont see any reason to hold back and keep thinking we might not be on to something early and being cautious with risk/bets

**remember, we started 3 out of 1st 8 races last season, and reeled off 17 in a row.....im ready for that to start earlier this year!!!

lets get ready for VEGAS boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



***ill see u guys later today, im off to watch last few years of vegas races...ill post the weeks thread tonight

[CarolinaDaze]

You guys know im your favorite fan, but somebodys got to be the villian sometimes. I was just giving ya'll some constructive criticism.

Last year near the end of the season i took Carl in a few races and you guys let me know quickly that was a bad bet. Ya'll say he hasnt won in over 140 races but i think its more like 70, but 2 years ago he finished 2nd in the points, so in my thinking he had to be doing something right, must have been awhole lot of Top 5-10's to get into 2nd place for the year.

But any ways on to Las Vegas, I'll be ya'lls biggest chearleader. Hope i didnt make you guys too mad, especially after a lost, i didnt mean to rub salt into your wounds, more like celebrating me winning for once.

[5mike5]

we need criticism buddy....would never be mad cd, just explaining why i wouldnt have taken him yesterday.....if we all didnt point things out to each other, we wouldnt be as good as we are at this...so anytime feel free

i wouldnt want to know the money i wasted on edwards the last 3 years after that big '08 season last year i think i vowed never again, but he wasnt even on my radar

lets hope we all cash vegas!!

[Optional]

You guys know im your favorite fan, but somebodys got to be the villian sometimes. I was just giving ya'll some constructive criticism.

Last year near the end of the season i took Carl in a few races and you guys let me know quickly that was a bad bet. Ya'll say he hasnt won in over 140 races but i think its more like 70, but 2 years ago he finished 2nd in the points, so in my thinking he had to be doing something right, must have been awhole lot of Top 5-10's to get into 2nd place for the year.

But any ways on to Las Vegas, I'll be ya'lls biggest chearleader. Hope i didnt make you guys too mad, especially after a lost, i didnt mean to rub salt into your wounds, more like celebrating me winning for once.

hehe. Don't worry CD. People are probably still remembering how much we all blew on Edwards at the beginning of his slump.

[5mike5]

hehe. Don't worry CD. People are probably still remembering how much we all blew on Edwards at the beginning of his slump.

that me!

[JackalLion]

hehe. Don't worry CD. People are probably still remembering how much we all blew on Edwards at the beginning of his slump.

I'm definitely in that group! I kept firing away at him until enough losses made me convince myself that marriage may have shifted his focus..I'm not sure that was it but he sure started spiraling for some reason.

Let me clarify this because I know he had his best year in 2011 after being married 2 yrs and barely missed the chamionship. What I meant is that because of 09 and almost all of 10 I got away from him and have never really had much faith after that. I believe I missed his wins in 10 by about 3 races.

[GP]

found this video while on youtube the other night, kyle busch onboard camera full race for his nationwide win at phoenix,