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  • mikemca
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    • 03-10-10
    • 10047

    #1
    Belmont Stakes Day
    Will start with the Belmont and post the full card tomorrow morning.

    In The Belmont Stakes I saw it as a 3 horse race before the scratch of IHA which sucks because now the 2 horses I was going to try and beat the favorite with are 1/3 or more of the price they were.Now the race seems to be can Dullahan run down Paynter?Before the scratch it was a pretty easy decision with IHA at 4-5,Dullahan at 5-1, and Paynter at 8-1.Just take the best value who was Paynter but Dullahan is now 9-5 and Paynter 7-2 so I guess I'm going to try the trifecta pool with paynter as the key.I liked Atigun and Street Life as long shots but don't know if Street Life can even be considered that anymore.This whole race just went to shyt with the scratch of the obviously vulnerable favorite.

    A/B,C,D,E/B,C,D,E

    Paynter

    over

    Dullahan
    Street Life
    Atigun
    Union Rags
  • mikemca
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-10-10
    • 10047

    #2
    Here are the stakes but might go over it again in the morning.Seems kind of chalky

    Race 6

    9-Inflation Target
    6-Teeth Of The Dog
    4-Skyring
    3-Politicallycorrect
    Race 7
    7-Caixa Electronica
    1-Pacific Ocean
    6-Giant Ryan
    8-Justin Phillip
    Race 8
    5-Hungry Island
    4-Winter Memories
    1-Tapitsfly
    3-Wallis
    Race 9
    2-Hardened Wildcat 12-1
    6-Trinniberg
    8-Isn't He Clever
    3-Il Villano
    Race 10
    6-Brilliant Speed
    4-Desert Blanc
    7-Hudson Steele
    3-Al Khali
    Race 11
    9-Paynter
    5-Dullahan
    4-Atigun
    1-Street Life
    3-Union Rags
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    • mikemca
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      • 03-10-10
      • 10047

      #3
      A couple longshots in the 4th and 5th maybe worth a stab

      4th--4-Define 20-1
      5th--2-Headingtothecity 15-1
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      • phillysfinest4
        SBR High Roller
        • 08-01-11
        • 184

        #4
        Thanks mike. Ill be there tomorrow so appreciate the insight
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        • nvrlose37
          SBR MVP
          • 06-01-12
          • 2730

          #5
          Originally posted by mikemca
          Here are the stakes but might go over it again in the morning.Seems kind of chalky

          Race 6

          9-Inflation Target
          6-Teeth Of The Dog
          4-Skyring
          3-Politicallycorrect
          Race 7
          7-Caixa Electronica
          1-Pacific Ocean
          6-Giant Ryan
          8-Justin Phillip
          Race 8
          5-Hungry Island
          4-Winter Memories
          1-Tapitsfly
          3-Wallis
          Race 9
          2-Hardened Wildcat 12-1
          6-Trinniberg
          8-Isn't He Clever
          3-Il Villano
          Race 10
          6-Brilliant Speed
          4-Desert Blanc
          7-Hudson Steele
          3-Al Khali
          Race 11
          9-Paynter
          5-Dullahan
          4-Atigun
          1-Street Life
          3-Union Rags
          No Currency Swap in the 9th?
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          • TonyP
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-20-09
            • 8478

            #6
            heres my contest picks for today, moving and got these in quick


            4-11,4,7
            5-6,10,3
            6-4,9,3
            7-5,2,7
            8-4,5,2
            9-6,5,9
            10-5,4,2
            11-9,5,4
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            • mikemca
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-10-10
              • 10047

              #7
              Originally posted by nvrlose37
              No Currency Swap in the 9th?
              The 9th is a really tough race.I wouldn't argue with anyone that wanted to use Currency Swap instead of Trinniberg or Il Villano but all three of them figure to be involved in a pretty hot pace so I think it sets up for someone off the pace.The knock I have on Currency Swap is that his last race he set the pace through splits so slow they could have been for a route which is why I like Hardened Wildcat out of that race who tried to close into the snails pace.
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              • Easy-Rider 66
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                • 02-14-12
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                #8
                Might go with your pick of Antigun as a longshot. However, he would have to make a big forward move to take it. Dullahan now 9/5 in early betting. My Adonis is also interesting at a price.
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                • nomar122977
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                  • 03-25-11
                  • 9496

                  #9
                  they are calling for storms around race time if so im on atigun
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                  • Easy-Rider 66
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                    • 02-14-12
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by nomar122977
                    they are calling for storms around race time if so im on atigun
                    Is he bred to run well in the mud? He ran well in the mud his last race.
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                    • mikemca
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                      • 03-10-10
                      • 10047

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                      Might go with your pick of Antigun as a longshot. However, he would have to make a big forward move to take it. Dullahan now 9/5 in early betting. My Adonis is also interesting at a price.

                      I agree about My Adonis.After going over it again I'm a little scared of him.I'll probably change my mind about 10 times between now and post time but the one thing I am locked in on is Paynter as the key whether straight or boxed.Who knows what I'll end up doing underneath
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                      • Easy-Rider 66
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                        • 02-14-12
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mikemca
                        I agree about My Adonis.After going over it again I'm a little scared of him.I'll probably change my mind about 10 times between now and post time but the one thing I am locked in on is Paynter as the key whether straight or boxed.Who knows what I'll end up doing underneath
                        Yeah, I am going to play against Paynter as I am a believer in the bounce theory. Big top with 3 weeks rest and extra distance. He does look good on paper, but he will probably go off at short odds. GL.
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                        • nomar122977
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                          • 03-25-11
                          • 9496

                          #13
                          ramon loves belmont watch out for my adonis .
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                          • RITZ
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                            • 11-03-09
                            • 1990

                            #14
                            Painter gets out ahead early and wins it. 8-1 good odds( on-line futures line)
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                            • mikemca
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                              • 03-10-10
                              • 10047

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                              Yeah, I am going to play against Paynter as I am a believer in the bounce theory. Big top with 3 weeks rest and extra distance. He does look good on paper, but he will probably go off at short odds. GL.
                              He won under a hand ride
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                              • str
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                                • 01-12-09
                                • 11768

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mikemca
                                He won under a hand ride
                                Mike, I was really impressed with how Paynter ran on Preakness day. Was thinking about playing him all week. He could not be coming into this race any better.
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                                • Easy-Rider 66
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mikemca
                                  He won under a hand ride
                                  Didn't know that. He has 4 starts this year all with improving beyers and the best beyer in the field(106). He just might be the best horse.
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                                  • mikemca
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                                    • 03-10-10
                                    • 10047

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by str

                                    Mike, I was really impressed with how Paynter ran on Preakness day. Was thinking about playing him all week. He could not be coming into this race any better.
                                    Yeah I think so too but as always in the Belmont everyone has a question mark.With Paynter its how much he has to be used early on but I'm hoping he can rate if Unstoppable U goes balls to the wall.

                                    Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

                                    Didn't know that. He has 4 starts this year all with improving beyers and the best beyer in the field(106). He just might be the best horse.
                                    I think he is the best horse by a pretty wide margin.
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                                    • BGboothA
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                                      • 08-07-08
                                      • 4202

                                      #19
                                      Here are all my picks for the day....the first race is already off and already hit the $58 exacta! Woot

                                      Race 1 = 4/11,6,13
                                      Race 2 = 2/6,4,3
                                      Race 3 = 3,6,7,9
                                      Race 4 = 12/11,9,3
                                      Race 5 = 1,5,2/9
                                      Race 6 = 1,5/9/3
                                      Race 7 = 7,2,5/3
                                      Race8 = 1/5,4,7
                                      Race 9 = 9,3,6/1
                                      Race 10 = 2,6/5,7
                                      Race 11 = 9/1,3,5,2* (Longshot Unstoppable U has a shot at this now)
                                      Race 12 = 9/8,1,4
                                      Race 13 = 6,5,12/8

                                      Race 9 = Best Bet Trifecta Box
                                      Race 11 = 9 w/ 1,2,3,5 w/ 1,2,3,5

                                      1 w/ 9,3,6 w/ 2,6,5,7 w/ 9,5,1,3,2 = $0.50 pick4 = $30 total ticket
                                      1,5,4,6 w/ 9,3,6 w/ 2,6 w/ 9,5,1,3 = $0.50 pick4 = $36 total ticket


                                      1,5 w/ 2,5,7 w/ 1 w/ 6 w/ 2,6 w/ 2,3,5,9 = $96 pick 6 ticket
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                                      • BGboothA
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-07-08
                                        • 4202

                                        #20
                                        Jun-09 BEL R2 2.00 SBR EXA 2/3,4,6 $6.00
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                                        • Easy-Rider 66
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                                          #21
                                          I think he is the best horse by a pretty wide margin.[/QUOTE]

                                          Think I will play the longshot Atigun to win and put Paynter over top. Hopefully Dullahan is another Icebox.
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                                          • Easy-Rider 66
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                                            #22
                                            Also looking at Street Life. Will wait to see where the odds go.
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                                            • BGboothA
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                                              • 08-07-08
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                                              #23
                                              Jun-09 BEL R3 1.00 PK3 3,6,7,9/12/1,2,5 12.00
                                              Jun-09 BEL R3 1.00 TRX 3,6,7,9 24.00
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                                              • BGboothA
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-07-08
                                                • 4202

                                                #24
                                                Watch out for Unstoppable U in the Belmont, I am really looking forward to seeing what his post time odds are
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                                                • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BGboothA
                                                  Watch out for Unstoppable U in the Belmont, I am really looking forward to seeing what his post time odds are
                                                  Why do you like Unstoppable U. He comes up real slow on Beyers/Sheet#'s.
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                                                  • BGboothA
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                                                    • 08-07-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    But keep in mind that a horse who hasn't lost, hasn't had to run his hardest....he is 2 for 2, watch the race replays of those two races, he was never challenged. If you figure it is going to take a 105-110 Beyer speed to win this thing, you are only asking for a jump of 15-20 points, I know that seems like a lot, but its not crazy. I don't think its going to be a fast pace, so I think Paynter has the best shot, but if Paynter allows a slow pace and Unstoppable hasn't put up the run yet.

                                                    Don't get me wrong he is a long shot for a reason, but I think there are some good chances there.
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                                                    • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BGboothA
                                                      But keep in mind that a horse who hasn't lost, hasn't had to run his hardest....he is 2 for 2, watch the race replays of those two races, he was never challenged. If you figure it is going to take a 105-110 Beyer speed to win this thing, you are only asking for a jump of 15-20 points, I know that seems like a lot, but its not crazy. I don't think its going to be a fast pace, so I think Paynter has the best shot, but if Paynter allows a slow pace and Unstoppable hasn't put up the run yet.

                                                      Don't get me wrong he is a long shot for a reason, but I think there are some good chances there.
                                                      I do like the fact that he is lightly raced this year(2 starts), But his best beyer is an 82. According to the Thorograph Sheets even if he makes a forward move he will still get beat by 10-15 lengths. Maybe you are on to something, but I am going elsewhere.
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                                                      • BGboothA
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                                                        • 08-07-08
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                                                        #28
                                                        Watch out for the 12 in the 4th here....currently at 10-1, should be a quick pace and 12 could come from behind to steal it.
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                                                        • mikemca
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                                                          • 03-10-10
                                                          • 10047

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mikemca
                                                          a couple longshots in the 4th and 5th maybe worth a stab

                                                          4th--4-define 20-1


                                                          booooooooom!!!!!
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                                                          • mikemca
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                                                            • 03-10-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Define Pays $27.40--$14.20--$8.30
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                                                            • BGboothA
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                                                              • 08-07-08
                                                              • 4202

                                                              #31
                                                              Nice hit Mike!

                                                              I thought we would see a lot more pace in that race than we did. Well done!
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                                                              • mikemca
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                                                                • 03-10-10
                                                                • 10047

                                                                #32
                                                                Thx great way to start the day
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                                                                • JJJ
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Nice job
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                                                                  • mikemca
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                                                                    • 03-10-10
                                                                    • 10047

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Thank You

                                                                    Thinking In My Eyes keyed in EX BX with 2-Headingtothecity and 10-Adirondack Dancer in the 5th
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                                                                    • cboogie
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-23-12
                                                                      • 568

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I like ravelo's boy in the tri
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