The Holy Bull

john230 · 01-29-12, 09:09 AM

I checked out Daily Racing Form's preview of the race. Said there are a couple of other horses in the race who like racing on the front end. Could be a speed duel. Might try to find the best closer.

Dark Horse · 01-29-12, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by john230

I checked out Daily Racing Form's preview of the race. Said there are a couple of other horses in the race who like racing on the front end. Could be a speed duel. Might try to find the best closer.

There is no real closer in the race (i.e. so far in their development). All speed and stalk.

This is January, and with Hansen already in the KY Derby, there is no real reason for him to peak here. So just a prep race for Hansen. He'll still run big for Dominguez, who took Mucho Macho Man to the house yesterday.

This race is more important to those still trying to qualify for the Derby. The horse I would throw out is Fort Loudon, and to a lesser extent My Adonis.

So other than Hansen, I'm looking at Algorithm, Silver Max, and Consortium. A win in this 400K race most likely translates to a Derby spot. With just six horses in the race the value may be with Silver Max at 8-1. He ran a 86 Beyer at this track a couple of weeks ago, and I'm interested to see him in his first race with Leparoux. Depending on the tote board, I may bet Silver Max to win or place. Still have to look at the trainers and what their plans might be for this one.

FWIW, Hansen has never passed another horse yet. He's gone wire to wire in each of his three starts. Horses to be expected just off the pace: Algorithm, Consortium.

zebra58 · 01-29-12, 10:24 AM

i can't get past the 3 favs 2,4,6, either 2 or 6 for me

john230 · 01-29-12, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

There is no real closer in the race (i.e. so far in their development). All speed and stalk.

This is January, and with Hansen already in the KY Derby, there is no real reason for him to peak here. So just a prep race for Hansen. He'll still run big for Dominguez, who took Mucho Macho Man to the house yesterday.

This race is more important to those still trying to qualify for the Derby. The horse I would throw out is Fort Loudon, and to a lesser extent My Adonis.

So other than Hansen, I'm looking at Algorithm, Silver Max, and Consortium. A win in this 400K race most likely translates to a Derby spot. With just six horses in the race the value may be with Silver Max at 8-1. He ran a 86 Beyer at this track a couple of weeks ago, and I'm interested to see him in his first race with Leparoux. Depending on the tote board, I may bet Silver Max to place. Still have to look at the trainers and what their plans might be for this one.

Good points. Dan Illman from DRF said he is going with Consortium, one of 2 horses in the race sired by Bernardini. I will take at look at Silver Max as well.

mikemca · 01-29-12, 11:02 AM

I like the 2-Consortium too.Mclaughlin has out of this world win percentage stretching horses out and giving them lasix for the first time.He was able to rate in his first start too and that will be a big plus here.Might not be any money to be made though with a Consortium/Hansen exacta .

JBEX · 01-29-12, 11:26 AM

Consortium and Algorithms very similar. Both Bernadini's
so they should improve on the stretch out. Also B is a world class
sire so good chance these two are runners.. They both ran two
sprints with almost identical Beyers.Only difference I see is first
time lasix for Consortium. Besides the fact i A beat C last
out like the fact A was able to win in June as a 2yo considering
his distance sire therefore I'll go with Algorithms.

mrginandtonic · 01-29-12, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by mikemca

I like the 2-Consortium too.Mclaughlin has out of this world win percentage stretching horses out and giving them lasix for the first time.He was able to rate in his first start too and that will be a big plus here.Might not be any money to be made though with a Consortium/Hansen exacta .

I am doing Hansen with Consortium or Algorithm exacta (haven't decided yet). Think might give a slight edge to Consortium with first Lasix and stretching out for trainer McLaughlin. I just don't see Hansen losing here especially with only a 6 horse field. Silver Max, I think, he is coming back too soon after his maiden win. Maybe I will do a straight trifecta Hansen/Consortium/Algorithm. That might pay a few $$??

Dark Horse · 01-29-12, 12:01 PM

Hoping a book puts up a matchup for this race. Beats trying to figure out if Hansen shows up or not, and if he still wins with a so-so effort. lol

hawkwind · 01-29-12, 12:38 PM

$10 Execta 4-3

GL with your picks 2day everyone

Dark Horse · 01-29-12, 02:56 PM

Skies opened up. Could be a mud bath.

Dark Horse · 01-29-12, 03:48 PM

Track now rated as sloppy.

john230 · 01-29-12, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

Consortium and Algorithms very similar. Both Bernadini's
so they should improve on the stretch out. Also B is a world class
sire so good chance these two are runners.. They both ran two
sprints with almost identical Beyers.Only difference I see is first
time lasix for Consortium. Besides the fact i A beat C last
out like the fact A was able to win in June as a 2yo considering
his distance sire therefore I'll go with Algorithms.

Good call on Algorithms. Went with Consortium for better odds.

mikemca · 01-29-12, 07:01 PM

Pletcher's horses are running like they are unbeatable at Gulfstream.Most of them are bet against when they leave Florida and they'll be even money or less.Happens every year it just sux while they are still at Gulfstream.You can't beat them and you can't make money betting them.

scratbandit · 01-30-12, 10:47 PM

It was a really good race. algo looked great...