My derby choices for pool #1

**cecil127** · 02-16-11, 09:21 PM

thanks for your thoughts joey. i like those odds!

**TonyP** · 02-16-11, 11:07 PM

much macho man will proly go off lower then 30-1 by the time the pool closes.

**Gremlin Lad** · 02-18-11, 08:53 AM

5-----#37 riveting reason------------
in all other 3 year olds in Pool #1

Found on another horse forum:

This time of year, I try to look for a horse who has, the following:

1. A meaningful 2 year old campaign, and
2. A horse who has stayed healthy, and
3. A horse who has proved himself at the graded level, and
4. A horse who has been close, but no cigar, and
5. A horse who's bloodlines have the speed and stamina to get the distance, and who's sire/dam showed the trait of getting better with each race.

It's easy right now to get caught up with the likes of Uncle Mo, Bretheran, J. P.'s Gusto, Tapizar, and the 2 Neil Howard FG horses, but it is still a long way to the first Saturday in May.

The horse who fits my formula, at least right now is RIVETING REASON. His latest at SA in the Rob't Lewis was a near miss by a nose, and he continued on well. He has had a long campaign at the best level Calif can offer. Son of Fu Peg, out of a mare who has Roberto and Dynaformer in her blood clearly has the breeding to get the demanding distance. Those of you in California may be more famuliar with his trainer than I, because I don't know a hell of alot about Myung Kwon Cho, except that he owns and traines his own horses. I suspect he will have at least two more starts, including the SA Derby, before he heads East to Louisville.

For now, one to keep an eye on.
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JFGARKY

**gman2114** · 02-18-11, 09:31 AM

I would give you those odds for these horses to even start in the Derby.

**joeyp1222** · 02-18-11, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by gremlin lad

5-----#37 riveting reason------------
in all other 3 year olds in pool #1

found on another horse forum:

This time of year, i try to look for a horse who has, the following:

1. A meaningful 2 year old campaign, and
2. A horse who has stayed healthy, and
3. A horse who has proved himself at the graded level, and
4. A horse who has been close, but no cigar, and
5. A horse who's bloodlines have the speed and stamina to get the distance, and who's sire/dam showed the trait of getting better with each race.

It's easy right now to get caught up with the likes of uncle mo, bretheran, j. P.'s gusto, tapizar, and the 2 neil howard fg horses, but it is still a long way to the first saturday in may.

The horse who fits my formula, at least right now is riveting reason. His latest at sa in the rob't lewis was a near miss by a nose, and he continued on well. He has had a long campaign at the best level calif can offer. Son of fu peg, out of a mare who has roberto and dynaformer in her blood clearly has the breeding to get the demanding distance. Those of you in california may be more famuliar with his trainer than i, because i don't know a hell of alot about myung kwon cho, except that he owns and traines his own horses. I suspect he will have at least two more starts, including the sa derby, before he heads east to louisville.

For now, one to keep an eye on.
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jfgarky

tapizar was my pick but hed chipped his heel and is out of derby

**tblues2005** · 02-18-11, 10:37 AM

When is pool one starting? This weekend or is it next weekend?

**joeyp1222** · 02-18-11, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by tblues2005

When is pool one starting? This weekend or is it next weekend?

think it opens today at noon

**gtkid911** · 02-18-11, 03:56 PM

I think Dialed in looks good but this 3 year old crop doesnt really seem that competitive

**zebra58** · 02-19-11, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by TonyP

much macho man will proly go off lower then 30-1 by the time the pool closes.

running @fg today as one of the favs, blinkers coming off should run decent but i'm going for a price in this one, will post it shortly

good luck

**Richkas** · 02-19-11, 12:05 PM

3-7-14-16-20-22-23

**tblues2005** · 02-19-11, 12:07 PM

Joey do you have any past pps for the pool 1?

**joeyp1222** · 02-19-11, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by tblues2005

Joey do you have any past pps for the pool 1?

Access Denied

https://www.brisnet.com

free pps this month go there and go to past performances, scroll down to ultimate pps and click on derby

**cecil127** · 02-19-11, 06:41 PM

no go unless you register (ss#/cc info etc...)
anyone else have a free link?

joey: i put a few sheckles on the 13 & 22

what do you think of a "all other 3 y/o" over the 13/22 exacta?

**TonyP** · 02-19-11, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by zebra58

running @fg today as one of the favs, blinkers coming off should run decent but i'm going for a price in this one, will post it shortly

good luck

didnt go off the chalk and won. hit the ex in this one

**joeyp1222** · 02-19-11, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by cecil127

no go unless you register (ss#/cc info etc...)
anyone else have a free link?

joey: i put a few sheckles on the 13 & 22

what do you think of a "all other 3 y/o" over the 13/22 exacta?

i think thats a good play but #22 to honor and serve over all is a real nice play buts its like playing $50 win on him

**zebra58** · 02-20-11, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by TonyP

didnt go off the chalk and won. hit the ex in this one

yep 9.20 win price was nice, big strong looking horse should make it to the derby, think the blinkers-off helped him

**zebra58** · 02-20-11, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by joeyp1222

i think thats a good play but #22 to honor and serve over all is a real nice play buts its like playing $50 win on him

looking better everyday, is this one already beat macho man twice? think i'll throw a few bucks on him

good luck joeyp

**mikemca** · 02-20-11, 01:03 PM

Top 5

I played these

1.Dialed In----10/1
2.Dialed In
3.Dialed In
4.Jaycito----20/1
5.Sweet Ducky---50/1

**madmaxx** · 02-21-11, 01:14 PM

I like Jaycito

**ATP123** · 02-21-11, 04:23 PM

im on soldat

**Gremlin Lad** · 02-22-11, 08:26 AM

Tuesday Feb 22, 2011

KDFW Pool 2 is set for March 11-13. The year's final pool is set for April 1-3, and the Kentucky Derby will be run on May 7 at Churchill Downs.

Information on the Kentucky Derby and the Kentucky Derby Future Wager -- including real-time KDFW Pool 1 odds -- is available at the official Kentucky Derby website at www.KentuckyDerby.com.

**joeyp1222** · 02-23-11, 11:07 AM

2011 Fountain of Youth (G2)
Date/Track:
2/26/2011, Gulfstream Park
Distance:
1 1/8 m (Dirt)
Age/Sex:
3 M
Time:
[Add Data]
*Rank is current Power Ranking among all active horses, based on highest HRN rating. Rating is based on HRN member voting.
Rank Silks Horse / Sire Rating Trainer / Jockey Last Start Status
15 To Honor and Serve
Bernardini
7.42 Trending Down
W. Mott
J. Velazquez
1st, 2010 Remsen (G2) View Video
Probable
176 Soldat
War Front
6.86 Trending Up
K. McLaughlin
A. Garcia
1st, GP Allow (1/21/2011-R9) View Video
Probable
177 Gourmet Dinner
Trippi
6.74 Trending Down
S. Standridge
S. Madrid
3rd, 2011 Holy Bull (G3) View Video
Probable
345 Shackleford
Forestry
6.41 Trending Down
D. Romans
J. Castanon
1st, GP Allow (2/5/2011-R3)
Probable
390 Bowman's Causeway
Giant's Causeway
6.38 Trending Down
P. Biancone
R. Curatolo
1st, GP MSW (2/11/2011-R8) View Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pYSbONIJ0E

Probable
329 Sweet Ducky
Pulpit
6.37 Trending Down
K. Breen
J. Bravo
2nd, 2011 Holy Bull (G3) View Video
Possible
463 Casper's Touch
Touch Gold
6.22
K. McPeek
J. Leparoux
2nd, GP Allow (2/5/2011-R3)
Probable
El Grayling
El Prado
6.17 Trending Up
M. Maker
P. Lopez
3rd, GP Allow (2/5/2011-R3)
Possible
Rustler Hustler
Ecton Park
6.11
R. Dutrow
R. Dominguez
6th, 2010 CashCall Futurity (G1) View Video
Possible
Racing Aptitude
Aptitude

H. Tesher
K. Desormeaux
6th, 2011 Dania Beach (LS) View Video
Probabl

**Gremlin Lad** · 02-23-11, 05:36 PM

Here's the Kentucky Derby 137 Graded Stakes Earnings Top 20 through February 22:

Rank

Horse

Trainer

Graded Earnings
1

Uncle Mo

Todd Pletcher

$1,260,000
2

Gourmet Dinner

Steve Standridge

$700,000
3

J P's Gusto

Joe Petalino

$540,000
4

Comma to the Top

Peter Miller

$456,000
5

Turbulent Dancer (f)

Mike Puype

$295,550
6

Rogue Romance

Kenny McPeek

$288,000
7

Mucho Macho Man

Kathy Ritvo

$270,000
7

Soldat

Kiaran McLaughlin

$270,000
9

Santiva

Eddie Kenneally

$240,254
10

Dialed In

Nick Zito

$240,000
11

To Honor and Serve

Bill Mott

$210,000
12

Decisive Moment

Juan Arias

$206,000
13

Jaycito

Bob Baffert

$200,000
14

Anthony's Cross

Eoin Harty

$162,000
15

Archarcharch

Jinks Fires

$150,000
16

Riveting Reason

Myung Kwon Cho

$147,500
17

Blue Laser

Mark Casse

$143,502
18

Willcox Inn

Mike Stidham

$139,000
19

Silver Medallion

Steve Asmussen

$124,334
20

Brethren

Todd Pletcher

$120,000
20

Sweet Ducky

Kelly Breen

$120,000

The next 10 are STAY THIRSTY (Bernardini) ($110,000), ASTROLOGY (A.P. Indy) ($105,893), LOU BRISSIE (Limehouse) ($99,043), The Factor ($90,000), MAJOR GAIN (More Than Ready) ($86,370), Premier Pegasus ($78,000), Sway Away ($60,000), Wilkinson ($60,000) and SURREY STAR (Ire) (Dubawi) ($44,257).

**sq764** · 02-24-11, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by joeyp1222

Out of 45 horses in the kentucky pool #1, these are my top 10 horses so far until pool #2 comes along if i were to place a wager now i would use two horses to win which are my top two horses listed.

1-----#22 to honor and serve--------------------------------------------10-1
2-----#13 much macho man------------------------------------------------30-1
3-----#23 uncle moe-------------------------------------------------------9/2
4-----#17 soldat-----------------------------------------------------------20-1
5-----#37 riveting reason-------------------------------------------------5/2
6-----#39 shackleford-----------------------------------------------------5/2
7-----#38-run flat out----------------------------------------------------5/2
8-----#1 anthonys cross---------------------------------------------------30-1
9-----#27 caspers touch----------------------------------------------------5/2
10----#10 dialed in---------------------------------------------------------10-1

lets see if im close at all
we still have more pools ahead and remember, if you bet any horses now and if doesnt make the derby, you loose your money i think im going to lay a win bet on #22 but not a huge bet maybe $20 or $30 to win

basewed on what exactly?

**RPP** · 02-24-11, 02:22 AM

I played Rogue Romance and Santiva. Both big prices with big chances.

**joeyp1222** · 02-24-11, 06:44 AM

well last week much macho man got his race and hopefully to honor and serve will win the fountain of youth saturday the 26th

**joeyp1222** · 02-26-11, 10:23 AM

fountain of youth play----too honor and serve

**mikemca** · 02-27-11, 08:43 AM

Its better for you that To Honor And Serve ran a dud yesterday.Maybe not for the Derby Pool 1 but if you really like him he will be a good price in the upcoming futures.Plus its obvious yesterday was just a workout.