can you pick winnersby following the tote board and using the exotic pools and win show place money percentages?
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All that shows you is where the money is .... if you bet every single favorite - you'd be very poor - very quickly.
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You can. Ask Ultimateselector. That's his specialty.Originally posted by ThePhenom00
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is this guy still around???????Comment -
He was pretty good with this as I recall.Originally posted by Dark HorseComment -
better are 'will pays' on doubles, pik-3's 4's. That's the best way to find value horses.Comment -
Google him. He started his own forum.Originally posted by painter10Comment -
The issue I have with this method is two fold. First you have people that will bet then cancel the bet later. Plus there's the issue of a betting mistake someone bets a large amount on the wrong number or the wrong race track. Tracking mutuel pools is a valid handicapping tool but only one piece of a larger puzzle. The general rule of thumb is the track the early $ and late $.Comment -
It sounds like what you are touching on is trying track the tote board, analyzing when and where the money is coming in, as a handicapping tool. From my understanding what the ultimateselector does is identify value from the tote board. He isn't trying to identify the best horse in the race, rather the best value, or the horse which is being under-bet relative to it's perceived odds of winning/placing etc..Originally posted by thezbarComment -
Hello Fellas!
Yup I'm still lurkin around a bit.
If there is anything I can do to help please feel free to ask me anything specific & I will do my best to answer them for you!
I only use my program that I developed that receives "Live" Odds & Pool feeds directly into my program.
I then run that money thru about 60 different calculations to arrive at my selection(s).
I never look at a form or anything else. I only know the horse by it's number & that's it. It's how I handicap.
I just Handicap the handicappers!!!
Best of Luck & See ya in the Winners Circle!
Regards,
U.S.
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hi us nice to see ya visiting good luck to youComment -
why not handicap and use your own knowledgeComment -
Using just the tote board would be useful in claiming races viewing the odds at 16 MTP, 15 MTP, and 14 MTP.
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it is not easy that wayComment -
i believe there is a book that explains how to use the tote. i think the book is Handicapping the Wall Street Way: Picking Xtra Winners at the Track. amazon.com has itComment -
to me handicapping the tote board is the only way to bet .it tells you whats going on today .not what happenened in the last 5 races .the trainer is the key and if he shows its a go by the odds lower today then before you ve at least have a live betComment -
i think it shows you some things ,not all, if i saw a horse listed at 8-1 in program and he took money in the pick 3-4 and is the favorite,i would figure ,the trainer or the ublic saw something that we didnt......it can be a good tool if put to use the right wayComment -
How did a 3 year old thread get bumped.Comment -
Was wondering that myself .. Dude's 1st post too...Originally posted by BGboothA
Hmmmmmmmmm...
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just some numbers to toss out there
fast dirt and artificial races only
no races with 2 or more scratches
this covers about the last 9 months
ROI to 1.00
these are horses who went off at 1/2 or less than the morning line odds
starts win
16347 05702 35% 55% 69% 0.83 0.88 0.90Comment -
you can t win at 35 percent with 3.00 as your win price avererage. watch how many times the 2nd and 3td fav winComment -
But what if the trainer is not a bettor 95% of the time ?Originally posted by philco40Comment
