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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 24655

    #1
    preakness
    #9 iron honor (9-2)

    ton of speed and i think prat will get a nice stalking trip breaking from the outside post .. I like 5 talkin (20-1) as an underneath (3rd,4th) in triples and supers .. maybe make some combos saturday

    opinions welcome
  • BOA12
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-19-12
    • 20909

    #2
    Why I like Incredibolt

    flying late past all

    the gate speed.

    I fear #1 Taj Mahal

    can go gate to wire

    and never look back,

    though I won't bet it.
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    • Pigpen
      SBR MVP
      • 05-09-08
      • 2821

      #3
      Weather looks good for the card on Saturday. I plan to play some. I think the Black Eye Susan/Preakness Double may fetch a nice return and I plan on taking a stab.
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 24655

        #4
        Originally posted by BOA12
        Why I like Incredibolt

        flying late past all

        the gate speed.

        I fear #1 Taj Mahal

        can go gate to wire

        and never look back,

        though I won't bet it.
        I think there's enough early speed to keep Taj mahal honest which would also set yours up nicely
        .. I like his progression and even in his debut from the 11 post the line he ran always suggests distance and he folliwed up nicely at churchill with that.. willing to toss holy bull with how he followed up in the virginia derby .. did some running in the ky derby also .. have to overcome the outside post but lots of positives to me
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        • BOA12
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-19-12
          • 20909

          #5
          Originally posted by JBEX

          I think there's enough early speed to keep Taj mahal honest which would also set yours up nicely
          .. I like his progression and even in his debut from the 11 post the line he ran always suggests distance and he folliwed up nicely at churchill with that.. willing to toss holy bull with how he followed up in the virginia derby .. did some running in the ky derby also .. have to overcome the outside post but lots of positives to me
          Same holds for #9 Iron Honor.

          No clear cut favorite,

          money 2B made no matter who wins.

          Everybody has a great chance.

          Let's see who Andy likes,

          str's nemesis. LOL.
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          • Pigpen
            SBR MVP
            • 05-09-08
            • 2821

            #6
            #7 The Hell We Did

            I enjoy researching the bottom side of the pedigree. We usually know the top side and can find a nugget on the dam's side. Take a look at this guy's mom. She is the definition of a blue hen mare. I am going to throw this one into my horizontal plays and if the price is to my liking at post maybe a win wager. Any of you guys have an opinion? Click image for larger version

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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 24655

              #7
              Originally posted by Pigpen
              #7 The Hell We Did

              I enjoy researching the bottom side of the pedigree. We usually know the top side and can find a nugget on the dam's side. Take a look at this guy's mom. She is the definition of a blue hen mare. I am going to throw this one into my horizontal plays and if the price is to my liking at post maybe a win wager. Any of you guys have an opinion? Click image for larger version

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              I would certainly upgrade my opinion pigpen as it's possible with those siblings there's still room for a forward move .. while this information is much easier to get these days, in a public race like this, it's generally overlooked .. I think factoring the lexington stakes was his first attempt around 2 turns and vs graded stakes company it wasn't a bad effort at all .. also like that he not only won , but crushed allowance competition at a smaller track the race before that
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              • JBEX
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 24655

                #8
                Originally posted by JBEX
                #9 iron honor (9-2)

                ton of speed and i think prat will get a nice stalking trip breaking from the outside post .. I like 5 talkin (20-1) as an underneath (3rd,4th) in triples and supers .. maybe make some combos saturday

                opinions welcome

                there's a lot more to me liking this horse besides the possibility of him getting a good trip .. just wanted to mention that
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                • BOA12
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-19-12
                  • 20909

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JBEX


                  there's a lot more to me liking this horse besides the possibility of him getting a good trip .. just wanted to mention that
                  Incredibolt ran well w/ 126 lb in the derby.

                  Iron Honor adds 3 lbs tomorrow, up to 126 lbs.

                  Weight kills the longer the trip?
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                  • JBEX
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 24655

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BOA12

                    Incredibolt ran well w/ 126 lb in the derby.

                    Iron Honor adds 3 lbs tomorrow, up to 126 lbs.

                    Weight kills the longer the trip?
                    I really don't factor weight (just me) unless it's a really large amount .. over 5 lbs .. even then usually wouldn't throw me off a horse .. probably more than balances itself out that iron honor comes in fresh off 6 weeks rest vs just exiting the derby .. I also believe most people who consider weight wouldn't be swayed by 3 lbs but of course it's an individual thing
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                    • BOA12
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-19-12
                      • 20909

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JBEX

                      I really don't factor weight (just me) unless it's a really large amount .. over 5 lbs .. even then usually wouldn't throw me off a horse .. probably more than balances itself out that iron honor comes in fresh off 6 weeks rest vs just exiting the derby .. I also believe most people who consider weight wouldn't be swayed by 3 lbs but of course it's an individual thing
                      Answered my question, thanks J.

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                      • Snowball
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 11-15-09
                        • 30106

                        #12
                        Chip Honcho is my prime gut pick, then maybe Bull by the Horns and Incredibolt.
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                        • JBEX
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 24655

                          #13
                          wow in the early betting with a significant amount in the pool iron honor is ice cold @ 8-1 .. with prat aboard I think this is a really bad sign ..my other talkin is almost the same odds @ 9-1 and he I was hoping to get a price on with a 20-1 ml .. you can get burned getting too fancy but rethinking my position .. will be back here with an update either way

                          heck great white is lower at 7-1 .. can't figure that at all
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                          • Pigpen
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-09-08
                            • 2821

                            #14
                            If Iron Honor is 8-1 or better at post I am going to play him.
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                            • JBEX
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 24655

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pigpen
                              If Iron Honor is 8-1 or better at post I am going to play him.
                              that's the other way to view it and I'm on the fence
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                              • JBEX
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 24655

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                wow in the early betting with a significant amount in the pool iron honor is ice cold @ 8-1 .. with prat aboard I think this is a really bad sign ..my other talkin is almost the same odds @ 9-1 and he I was hoping to get a price on with a 20-1 ml .. you can get burned getting too fancy but rethinking my position .. will be back here with an update either way

                                heck great white is lower at 7-1 .. can't figure that at all
                                since I posted without any consideration for the odds I'm going to leave this alone (stick with #9 IH) .. however I did mention #5 talkin as an underneath in triples.. instead going to make him an additional win bet (currently they're both 9-1) an add an exacta box 59 ..$4 win both with a $1 ex box would be about the right ratio for me .. exacta currently paying about 80 for $1 either way

                                iron horse 2nd/14 [9-1]
                                ​​talkin out [11-1]
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 24655

                                  #17
                                  laurel 12 (5:52)
                                  jim mckay turf sprint
                                  2 determined kingdom (5-1)
                                  out [10-1]
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                                  • Zlaniner
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-12-19
                                    • 1714

                                    #18
                                    Iron honor
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                                    • Jellymancan
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-09-20
                                      • 3721

                                      #19
                                      #5 Talkin W
                                      #11 Corona De Oro WPS
                                      EX, TRI, SUPA box- #1,5,11,12
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