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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23392

    #1
    2 day parlay into belmont stakes
    1 best bet saratoga thu/fri
    6-1 ml max
    4W or 2WP
    money rolls forward to big race
    grade yourself

    ie:
    2WP 3-1 (good avg) = about +200

    again (+200) = +800

    $4 becomes about $36 into the race

    place bet goes forward ..

    change .60 up
    ie >=5.60 becomes 6

    change .50 down
    ie <=5.50 becomes 5

    if you're alive through Friday round off is almost insignificant into the belmont stakes


    prefer well in advance picks so others can see who you like but
    closer to post ok


    open to everybody..little fun going into the race
    Last edited by JBEX; 06-02-24, 08:04 PM.
  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23392

    #2
    i suppose there's no need for a ml odds cap..shoot for whatever odds you want..hit a good one on thursday and want to skip friday that's fine..place bet only also fine
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    • BOA12
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-19-12
      • 20622

      #3
      Originally posted by JBEX
      1 best bet saratoga thu/fri
      6-1 ml max
      4W or 2WP
      money rolls forward to big race
      grade yourself

      ie:
      2WP 3-1 (good avg) = about +200

      again (+200) = +800

      $4 becomes about $36 into the race

      place bet goes forward ..

      change .60 up
      ie >=5.60 becomes 6

      change .50 down
      ie <=5.50 becomes 5

      if you're alive through Friday round off is almost insignificant into the belmont stakes


      prefer well in advance picks so others can see who you like but
      closer to post ok


      open to everybody..little fun going into the race
      Guru, can I make a 2WP Thursday and Friday if I hit split WP Friday?

      If alive into 3rd leg Saturday split WP?

      Guru cooking up situational wagering, a pioneer in this field of expertise.
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23392

        #4
        Originally posted by BOA12
        Guru, can I make a 2WP Thursday and Friday if I hit split WP Friday?

        If alive into 3rd leg Saturday split WP?

        Guru cooking up situational wagering, a pioneer in this field of expertise.






        sure..anything you want if you have something going into Friday as long as it's one play and a wp , w or p bet


        belmont stakes itself could be a win bet , wp bet,split win bets on 2 horses (no place bet then) or a place bet only
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        • JBEX
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          • 01-02-12
          • 23392

          #5
          rather keep amounts equal (wp, w, ww , p) on Friday but have amount flexibility on the belmont
          Last edited by JBEX; 06-03-24, 08:45 AM.
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          • BOA12
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            • 02-19-12
            • 20622

            #6
            Originally posted by JBEX





            sure..anything you want if you have something going into Friday as long as it's one play and a wp , w or p bet


            belmont stakes itself could be a win bet , wp bet,split win bets on 2 horses (no place bet then) or a place bet only
            So Friday & Belmont a W or P only.

            Ten4 Guru.
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23392

              #7
              thinking on the fly here..if you do 2 win bets on Friday they can be in separate races but as I stated ,the same amount and no place bets
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              • BOA12
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                • 02-19-12
                • 20622

                #8
                Thursday 6-6-24

                R6 #4 Refuse To Lose 8-1 2WP

                Let the game begin.
                Last edited by BOA12; 06-06-24, 06:11 AM. Reason: thur 2WP
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23392

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BOA12
                  So Friday & Belmont a W or P only.

                  Ten4 Guru.
                  no .. anything with your forward money as long as it's for the same amount on Friday


                  win only (1 race)

                  win place (1 race)

                  place only (1 race)

                  ww 2 horses same or different races (no place)
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                  • BOA12
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-19-12
                    • 20622

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BOA12
                    Thursday 6-6-24

                    R6 #4 Refuse To Lose 2WP

                    Let the game begin.
                    Originally posted by JBEX
                    no .. anything with your forward money as long as it's for the same amount on Friday


                    win only (1 race)

                    win place (1 race)

                    place only (1 race)

                    ww 2 horses same or different races (no place)
                    Keep this simple explanation close 2Me. No more questions.
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                    • JBEX
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 23392

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BOA12
                      Keep this simple explanation close 2Me. No more questions.
                      no problem b o a ..actually helped clarify some things

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                      • JBEX
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 23392

                        #12
                        update rules

                        thursday

                        2WP or 4W (1 race)


                        friday options (if alive)

                        same amount if multiple bets

                        win 1 race
                        wp 1 race
                        place 1 race
                        2 win bets ..same or different races

                        friday (thursday loss)

                        chance for another best bet but since it's a secondary shot make it for less

                        2W or 1WP on race of your choice..win forwarded onto the belmont


                        saturday options if alive to the belmont stakes
                        your choice amounts

                        ie 80 going forward

                        50 W 30P /80W/80P/ 40W 2 horses / 50W 30W on 2 horses ..amounts up to you ..no exotics


                        win
                        win place
                        place
                        2 win bets (no place)
                        Last edited by JBEX; 06-04-24, 01:44 AM.
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                        • JBEX
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                          • 01-02-12
                          • 23392

                          #13
                          if races are off the turf on thursday (high likelihood @ least for this one..feature they'll try to keep it on) then I like R5 #4 summer whirl (8-1)..ml won't mean much with a surface switch..could see it being my play but just putting it out there for now..will boldface my final play
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                          • JBEX
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 23392

                            #14
                            added a consolation bet (to rules above) friday if you lose on thursday

                            if you make it to saturday with a hit on thursday (meaning you won thu and fri)
                            to reflect that put a

                            (4) in front of your belmont bet


                            (6) in front
                            of bel bet if your hit is on friday
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                            • JBEX
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                              • 01-02-12
                              • 23392

                              #15
                              going to jump in a day early with a 2 win bet..feel it shouldn't be 4 as the emphasis should be the short meet and there will also be a 2 consolation friday for a thursday miss..anybody else has can do this today although have a hunch only b o a might be interested..probably true for doing this at all lol but that's fine..like to try it for myself anyway


                              churchill

                              R6 #4 lieutenant general (6-1) 2W
                              @ 3:18

                              off track still a play


                              for tracking purposes this will be a normal play @ 2WP..also make an exception to off the turf rule for this one to be consistent with what I'm doing with the parlay



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                              • BOA12
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-19-12
                                • 20622

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                going to jump in a day early with a 2 win bet..feel it shouldn't be 4 as the emphasis should be the short meet and there will also be a 2 consolation friday for a thursday miss..anybody else has can do this today although have a hunch only b o a might be interested..probably true for doing this at all lol but that's fine..like to try it for myself anyway


                                churchill

                                R6 #4 lieutenant general (6-1) 2W
                                @ 3:18

                                off track still a play


                                for tracking purposes this will be a normal play @ 2WP..also make an exception to off the turf rule for this one to be consistent with what I'm doing with the parlay



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                                A pre-play parlay, you gotta love it.

                                Your Pioneer Spirit Lives.

                                12:50 CST

                                TDN R3 #2 Counteveryblessing 7/2 $2W. OUT 4AIR

                                Amen my man.

                                Guru, do I start Thursday -$2?

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                                Last edited by BOA12; 06-05-24, 12:58 PM.
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 23392

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BOA12
                                  A pre-play parlay, you gotta love it.

                                  Your Pioneer Spirit Lives.

                                  12:50 CST

                                  TDN R3 #2 Counteveryblessing 7/2 2WP.

                                  Amen my man.

                                  .


                                  just win though b o a ..want to make it a smaller amount today..probably wouldn't change your mind anyway






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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23392

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JBEX


                                    just win though b o a ..want to make it a smaller amount today..probably wouldn't change your mind anyway






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                                    I really didn't make that clear in my original explanation and should have quoted that..made it seem like only I was going 2 but meant the same if you or any others got involved today




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                                    • BOA12
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-19-12
                                      • 20622

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BOA12
                                      A pre-play parlay, you gotta love it.

                                      Your Pioneer Spirit Lives.

                                      12:50 CST

                                      TDN R3 #2 Counteveryblessing 7/2 $2W.

                                      Amen my man.

                                      .

                                      Fixed it Guru, you're very patient with US ALL non-Guru types
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                                      • BOA12
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-19-12
                                        • 20622

                                        #20
                                        In need of a cold P3 to hit this .

                                        Gambling God's may need to intercede on my behalf, don't .
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23392

                                          #21
                                          example with a 5-1 (reasonable) thu coming in top 2

                                          finish 2nd
                                          approximate mutuel $6

                                          invest 6 (-2 weds)
                                          return 6
                                          even

                                          2WP on friday (another shot)



                                          wins

                                          approximate wp $18
                                          invest 6 (-2 weds)

                                          so that'd be $18 going into friday..not bad


                                          a 3-1wp hit friday would be about +200 making the a18 into
                                          a54 (6 invest..+800)

                                          a = about

                                          understand probably not going to happen but hitting tomorrow
                                          ,regardless of friday's result, would be some nice mileage to get out if it







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                                          Last edited by JBEX; 06-05-24, 03:55 PM.
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23392

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JBEX
                                            going to jump in a day early with a 2 win bet..feel it shouldn't be 4 as the emphasis should be the short meet and there will also be a 2 consolation friday for a thursday miss..anybody else has can do this today although have a hunch only b o a might be interested..probably true for doing this at all lol but that's fine..like to try it for myself anyway


                                            churchill

                                            R6 #4 lieutenant general (6-1) 2W
                                            @ 3:18

                                            off track still a play


                                            for tracking purposes this will be a normal play @ 2WP..also make an exception to off the turf rule for this one to be consistent with what I'm doing with the parlay



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                                            out @ 6-1
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                                            • BOA12
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-19-12
                                              • 20622

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by boa12
                                              thursday 6-6-24

                                              r6 #4 refuse to lose 8-1 2wp

                                              let the game begin.
                                              Originally posted by boa12
                                              a pre-play parlay, you gotta love it.

                                              Your pioneer spirit lives.

                                              12:50 cst

                                              tdn r3 #2 counteveryblessing 7/2 $2w. out 4air

                                              amen my man.

                                              Guru, do i start thursday -$2?

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                                              push
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23392

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BOA12
                                                push
                                                you have $4 today ..4W /2WP /4P

                                                tomorrow

                                                (6) 0 (miss today) then you have 2 fri
                                                (6) return today..then you parlay forward
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                                                • BOA12
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                  • 20622

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                  you have $4 today ..4W /2WP /4P

                                                  tomorrow

                                                  (6) 0 (miss today) then you have 2 fri
                                                  (6) return today..then you parlay forward
                                                  Gotcha Guru. No penalty free play on Wednesday.

                                                  Feels like Summer has officially arrived.

                                                  2:35 CST

                                                  7F MSW 100K FAST TRACK

                                                  R6 #4 Refuse To Lose 8-1 2WP// Refuses 2WIN but Places X-$7.90

                                                  Lone 4 Year old in the field.

                                                  On to Leg 2 Friday.

                                                  BOL2ALL

                                                  False Reality Friday on Thursday , my project head start ..
                                                  Last edited by BOA12; 06-06-24, 02:52 PM.
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                                                  • JBEX
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 23392

                                                    #26
                                                    was hoping R5 was off the turf so switching to this




                                                    R8 #6 film academy (3-1) 4W
                                                    @ 4:43


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                                                    • BOA12
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-19-12
                                                      • 20622

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                                      was hoping R5 was off the turf so switching to this




                                                      R8 #6 film academy (3-1) 4W
                                                      @ 4:43


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                                                      Guru pounding. NICE! GL as always.
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                                                      • JBEX
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                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23392

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BOA12
                                                        Guru pounding. NICE! GL as always.
                                                        thanks..not a good start with irad injured
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                                                        • JBEX
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                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23392

                                                          #29
                                                          nice run by RTL ..little further he might have gotten there
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                                                          • BOA12
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-19-12
                                                            • 20622

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JBEX
                                                            nice run by RTL ..little further he might have gotten there
                                                            2/5 entry to good to lose. Was hoping the first starter 1A wouldn't last and he would pass.

                                                            2/5 did inflate my odds from 8-1 to 15-1 which helped the place price.

                                                            $8 for Friday.

                                                            See you on the flip side.
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23392

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BOA12
                                                              2/5 entry to good to lose. Was hoping the first starter 1A wouldn't last and he would pass.

                                                              2/5 did inflate my odds from 8-1 to 15-1 which helped the place price.

                                                              $8 for Friday.

                                                              See you on the flip side.
                                                              even a modest odds win would give you a boost into the big race
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23392

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                even a modest odds win would give you a boost into the big race
                                                                and you had a real shot for a big hit going forward as yours was a solid 2nd
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                                                                • BOA12
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                                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                                  • 20622

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Being the only 4Yr old was the major selling point and a race. Big effort easy name 2remeber for next time out.
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                                                                  • JBEX
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                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23392

                                                                    #34
                                                                    be longshot hunting tomorrow


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                                                                    • BOA12
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                                                                      • 02-19-12
                                                                      • 20622

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                      be longshot hunting tomorrow


                                                                      Your rabid fan base looking forward to your finding a bomb.
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