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  • ConleyPicks
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    • 01-09-21
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    #1
    Hong Kong Speed Figures/Selections/Analysis etc 2021-?
    Hello everyone!

    ConleyPicks here and I will be now posting my Hong Kong horse racing Speed Figures for Sha Tin and Happy Valley!

    Here are some key information for what I will be showing:

    Each racing day for either Sha Tin or Happy Valley after the races I have completed I will post my Speed Figures for every race and you can use this information for your handicapping

    I will also have full card selections for each race and hopefully you can cash on some of those big prices!

    Sometimes I will post analysis for my picks but that would mostly be for "Big Race Days" like Group 1/2/3 races

    Good luck to everyone and I hope that someone here can use this information and make big

    Sha Tin is on tap tonight and that will start at 1pm

    I will post my figures after the races have completed and also this afternoon sometime I will post my full card selections
  • ConleyPicks
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    #2
    SHA TIN SELECTIONS for 5/29/2021

    Top 2 picks along plus BEST BET and Longshot Selection!

    R1: #8 or #5
    R2: #6 or #4
    R3: #2 or #5
    R4: #3 or #5
    R5: #2 or #1
    R6: #4 or #12
    R7: #8 or #10
    R8: #4 or #12
    R9: #3 or #7
    R10: #1 or #5

    BEST BET: Race 8 #4 Lucky Fun
    Longshot Play: Race 6 #12 Pakistan Friend
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    • JBEX
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      • 01-02-12
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      #3
      interesting and bol conley..I was doing it for a few years but very primitive stuff and gave it up..never used the figures they have available (speed pro ?)..great racing and as you know the biggest pools in the world
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      • Easy-Rider 66
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        • 02-14-12
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        #4
        Good Luck Conley.
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        • ConleyPicks
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          #5
          Originally posted by JBEX
          interesting and bol conley..I was doing it for a few years but very primitive stuff and gave it up..never used the figures they have available (speed pro ?)..great racing and as you know the biggest pools in the world
          Thank you JBEX! I hope someone here (and maybe even you) could use my speed figures or picks!

          That's pretty cool that you use to do speed figures for a few years back!

          And I think SpeedPro is more like energy and pace stuff more than speed figure stuff I guess

          And yep the biggest pools in the world is for sure a great opportunity to get a great price!!!
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          • ConleyPicks
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            • 01-09-21
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            #6
            Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
            Good Luck Conley.
            Thank you and BOL to you too!
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            • JBEX
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              • 01-02-12
              • 23396

              #7
              Originally posted by ConleyPicks
              Thank you JBEX! I hope someone here (and maybe even you) could use my speed figures or picks!

              That's pretty cool that you use to do speed figures for a few years back!

              And I think SpeedPro is more like energy and pace stuff more than speed figure stuff I guess

              And yep the biggest pools in the world is for sure a great opportunity to get a great price!!!
              no I meant my handicapping approach there.."primitive" does sound more like I'm talking figures..bad description on my part..never made a figure in my life but realize many serious handicappers do


              without discussing specifics is it easier to establish a more accurate variant with the large majority of races being on turf ?
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              • ConleyPicks
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                #8
                Originally posted by JBEX
                no I meant my handicapping approach there.."primitive" does sound more like I'm talking figures..bad description on my part..never made a figure in my life but realize many serious handicappers do


                without discussing specifics is it easier to establish a more accurate variant with the large majority of races being on turf ?
                Ok it sounded like you made/created your figures

                The race pars that I have finished for every distance run from 1000m to 2400m to create a "base" for my speed figures are much more easier since I only have to worry about 1 surface and also the variant is accurate which is what you were saying

                See how it goes for a few weeks and tweak what I need to adjust
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                • JBEX
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                  • 01-02-12
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                  #9
                  looking forward to it..maybe give it a go again


                  typically speaking at 1400-1600 at sha tin how much faster is a class 3 vs a class 4 ?
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                  • ConleyPicks
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JBEX
                    looking forward to it..maybe give it a go again


                    typically speaking at 1400-1600 at sha tin how much faster is a class 3 vs a class 4 ?
                    Yea it could be fun for you!

                    For 1400m Class 3 vs Class 4 is .20 faster
                    For 1600m Class 3 vs Class 4 is also .20 faster
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                    • JBEX
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                      • 01-02-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ConleyPicks
                      Yea it could be fun for you!

                      For 1400m Class 3 vs Class 4 is .20 faster
                      For 1600m Class 3 vs Class 4 is also .20 faster
                      I thought I remembered when I looked at the bottom (or at the end ?)of their web pp's that the differences were miniscule ..you'd think a level would be more than that lol..really amazing..their site is the best I've ever seen for viewing replays and lots of other things..the recaps of races are incredibly detailed..think I've seen 1 or 2 apex 500-1 in odds .. quite a few above 400..definitely going to take a peak again and look forward to your stuff


                      bol tonight
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                      • ConleyPicks
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                        • 01-09-21
                        • 1288

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JBEX
                        I thought I remembered when I looked at the bottom (or at the end ?)of their web pp's that the differences were miniscule ..you'd think a level would be more than that lol..really amazing..their site is the best I've ever seen for viewing replays and lots of other things..the recaps of races are incredibly detailed..think I've seen 1 or 2 apex 500-1 in odds .. quite a few above 400..definitely going to take a peak again and look forward to your stuff


                        bol tonight
                        Thank you very much! Yes I can agree that the HKJC is very good for the information that they provide for FREE such as race charts or replays or even Speed Index and that is why I am trying to do more Hong Kong racing and only focus on good races that I actually like in the states since there is so much information that I can access for free vs the US/Canada where you would have to pay which is not bad but it adds up over time

                        Let's do this!!!
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                        • JBEX
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                          • 01-02-12
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ConleyPicks
                          Thank you very much! Yes I can agree that the HKJC is very good for the information that they provide for FREE such as race charts or replays or even Speed Index and that is why I am trying to do more Hong Kong racing and only focus on good races that I actually like in the states since there is so much information that I can access for free vs the US/Canada where you would have to pay which is not bad but it adds up over time

                          Let's do this!!!


                          makes sense and no where do you get more solid free information than hkjc.. can get costly paying for info for us races
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                          • JBEX
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                            • 01-02-12
                            • 23396

                            #14
                            got the bug lol


                            (post)


                            R2 #14 seize the spirit (12)
                            R4 #14 winwin thirtythree (6)
                            R5 #8 tronic mighty (12)
                            R6 #2 righteous doctrine (3)
                            R7 #11 pleasant endeavor (11)
                            R8 #10 true legend (11)
                            R10 #12 private rocket (4)
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                            • ConleyPicks
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ConleyPicks
                              SHA TIN SELECTIONS for 5/29/2021

                              Top 2 picks along plus BEST BET and Longshot Selection!

                              R1: #8 or #5
                              R2: #6 or #4
                              R3: #2 or #5
                              R4: #3 or #5
                              R5: #2 or #1
                              R6: #4 or #12
                              R7: #8 or #10
                              R8: #4 or #12
                              R9: #3 or #7
                              R10: #1 or #5

                              BEST BET: Race 8 #4 Lucky Fun
                              Longshot Play: Race 6 #12 Pakistan Friend
                              R1: 6th and 2nd
                              R2: 9th and 6th
                              R3: 7th and 2nd
                              R4: 4th and 14th
                              R5: 6th and 7th
                              R6: 6th and 11th
                              R7: 10th and 6th
                              R8: 2nd and 4th
                              R9: 10th and 2nd
                              R10: 4th and 8th

                              Best bet ran 2nd --$18.00
                              Longshot play ran 11th

                              Probably should stick to the figures lol
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                              • ConleyPicks
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                                #16
                                SHA TIN 5/30/2021 SPEED FIGURES

                                Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                Race 1 Class 5 Tsz Wan Shan Handicap $750 HK
                                1800m Final Time 1:48:54

                                #6 98
                                #5 98
                                #2 95
                                #12 94
                                #3 94
                                #8 94
                                #9 94
                                #1 93
                                #14 92
                                #4 92
                                #13 92
                                #11 86
                                #7 70
                                #10 44
                                Last edited by ConleyPicks; 05-30-21, 07:10 AM.
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                                • ConleyPicks
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                                  #17
                                  Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                  Race 2 Class 4 Tate's Cairn Handicap $1m HK
                                  1400m Final Time 1:21:40

                                  #12 100
                                  #10 96
                                  #3 94
                                  #14 94
                                  #5 92
                                  #4 91
                                  #11 89
                                  #9 88
                                  #6 88
                                  #2 86
                                  #7 86
                                  #1 80
                                  #8 78
                                  #13 60
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                                  • ConleyPicks
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                                    #18
                                    Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                    Race 3 Group 3 The Lion Rock Trophy (Handicap) $3.5m HK
                                    1600m Final Time: 1:33:45

                                    #6 100
                                    #5 98
                                    #7 96
                                    #3 96
                                    #4 95
                                    #1 90
                                    #2 87
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                                    • ConleyPicks
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                                      #19
                                      Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                      Race 4 Class 4 Tate's Cairn Handicap $1m HK
                                      1400m Final Time 1:21:89

                                      #10 100
                                      #8 99
                                      #6 98
                                      #3 97
                                      #14 97
                                      #2 97
                                      #11 96
                                      #12 94
                                      #9 93
                                      #7 92
                                      #4 91
                                      #13 89
                                      #1 86
                                      #5 74
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                                      • ConleyPicks
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                                        #20
                                        Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                        Race 5 Class 4 Shan Tin Heights Handicap $1m HK
                                        1200m Final Time 1:08:88

                                        #4 102
                                        #12 96
                                        #5 92
                                        #10 92
                                        #14 91
                                        #2 90
                                        #1 90
                                        #3 88
                                        #13 88
                                        #6 86
                                        #8 86
                                        #11 82
                                        #9 82
                                        #7 75
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                                        • ConleyPicks
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                                          #21
                                          Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                          Race 6 Class 3 Piper's Hill Handicap $1.5m HK
                                          2000m Final Time 2:00:67

                                          #9 107
                                          #8 106
                                          #3 104
                                          DH #11 103
                                          DH #13 103
                                          #4 102
                                          #1 100
                                          #2 99
                                          #10 98
                                          #6 96
                                          #12 96
                                          #7 92
                                          #14 87
                                          #5 87
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                                          • ConleyPicks
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                                            #22
                                            Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                            Race 7 Class 3 Eagle's Nest Handicap $1.5m HK
                                            1200m Final Time 1:08:70

                                            #9 102
                                            #6 96
                                            #2 95
                                            #11 92
                                            #13 90
                                            #10 88
                                            #12 88
                                            #4 88
                                            #3 86
                                            #8 85
                                            #1 81
                                            #5 73
                                            #7 70
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                                            • ConleyPicks
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                                              #23
                                              Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                              Race 8 Class 3 Hung mui Kuk Handicap $1.5m HK
                                              1400m Final Time 1:21:36

                                              #14 102
                                              #4 100
                                              #7 100
                                              #12 100
                                              #3 99
                                              #5 98
                                              #8 98
                                              #2 97
                                              #13 97
                                              #10 96
                                              #9 94
                                              #11 93
                                              #6 93
                                              #1 79
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                                              • ConleyPicks
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                                                #24
                                                Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                                Race 9 Class 3 Eagle's Nest Handicap $1.5m HK
                                                1200m Final Time 1:08:29

                                                #11 104
                                                #7 100
                                                #9 100
                                                #6 100
                                                #1 100
                                                #8 96
                                                #4 96
                                                #10 95
                                                #13 95
                                                #3 90
                                                #12 90
                                                #5 82
                                                #2 82
                                                #14 80
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                                                • ConleyPicks
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                                                  #25
                                                  Hong Kong Speed Figures 5/30/2021
                                                  Race 10 Class 2 Amah Rock Handicap $2.2m HK
                                                  1200m Final Time 1:07:92

                                                  #7 104
                                                  #3 99
                                                  #8 99
                                                  #1 99
                                                  #4 94
                                                  #13 94
                                                  #11 94
                                                  #5 93
                                                  #10 93
                                                  #9 92
                                                  #12 92
                                                  #14 90
                                                  #2 86
                                                  #6 76

                                                  While data provided by the Hong Kong Jockey Club (HK Final Times with my adjustments) are accurate, occasionally errors and omissions occur as a result of incorrect data received or mistakes in processing and other causes. Please use them at your own risk.
                                                  Last edited by ConleyPicks; 05-30-21, 07:10 AM.
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                                                  • littlekona
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                                                    • 11-19-15
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                                                    #26
                                                    HK is very tough circuit for me. the condition book with all the up and down in class and conditions I just can not grasp. I like the UK/IRE much better
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                                                    • BOA12
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                                                      #27
                                                      BOL kid, wish I was 19 again.
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                                                      • BOA12
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by littlekona
                                                        HK is very tough circuit for me. the condition book with all the up and down in class and conditions I just can not grasp. I like the UK/IRE much better
                                                        Big luck 2day, kona.
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                                                        • JBEX
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                                                          • 01-02-12
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JBEX
                                                          got the bug lol


                                                          (post)


                                                          R2 #14 seize the spirit (12)
                                                          R4 #14 winwin thirtythree (6)
                                                          R5 #8 tronic mighty (12)
                                                          R6 #2 righteous doctrine (3)
                                                          R7 #11 pleasant endeavor (11)
                                                          R8 #10 true legend (11)
                                                          R10 #12 private rocket (4)



                                                          R2 ..4th @ 42..< length from 2nd
                                                          R4 ..5th @ 48 < length 3rd
                                                          R6 .. out @ 11
                                                          R7 .. 4th @ 8.6
                                                          R8 .. out @ 6.5
                                                          R10 .. out @ 12-1


                                                          R6 top 5 prices in order 58/20/13/56/54
                                                          R8 .. 56 won 97 third




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                                                          • BOA12
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                                                            • 02-19-12
                                                            • 20622

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JBEX
                                                            R2 ..4th @ 42..< length from 2nd
                                                            R4 ..5th @ 48 < length 3rd
                                                            R6 .. out @ 11
                                                            R7 .. 4th @ 8.6
                                                            R8 .. out @ 6.5
                                                            R10 .. out @ 12-1


                                                            R6 top 5 prices in order 58/20/13/56/54
                                                            R8 .. 56 won 97 third




                                                            .
                                                            U gamblers frighten and enlighten me. BOL J.
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                                                            • JBEX
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BOA12
                                                              U gamblers frighten and enlighten me. BOL J.
                                                              lol thanks ..yeah conley lit the fire in me again ..going to look at the cards at least every once in a while
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                                                              • ConleyPicks
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                                                HK is very tough circuit for me. the condition book with all the up and down in class and conditions I just can not grasp. I like the UK/IRE much better
                                                                First time trying this and you are most welcome to use the figures however you see fit
                                                                There are only 8-9 different classes (Group 1/2/3 with Class 5/4/3/2/1 and Griffin) so it's not too hard but enough sometimes you have to be patient
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                                                                • ConleyPicks
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BOA12
                                                                  BOL kid, wish I was 19 again.
                                                                  Thank you BkofAma! I will do my best
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                                                                  • ConleyPicks
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                    lol thanks ..yeah conley lit the fire in me again ..going to look at the cards at least every once in a while
                                                                    Need to both rebound for Happy Valley on wednesday

                                                                    Hoping someone can use the figures too lol
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                                                                    • littlekona
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ConleyPicks
                                                                      First time trying this and you are most welcome to use the figures however you see fit
                                                                      There are only 8-9 different classes (Group 1/2/3 with Class 5/4/3/2/1 and Griffin) so it's not too hard but enough sometimes you have to be patient

                                                                      the odds line maker at HK is the absolute worst. So many 40-1 ML's I see bet down and way down like 5/2 and win


                                                                      FYI I also use oddschecker as it shows the exchange and fixed market prices on horses at HK which helps
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