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  • Easy-Rider 66
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    #71
    With all due repsect JBEX, I will take Mr. G&T's approach to capping over yours. His supposed LUCK is > than your supposed skill. IMO. As for writeups you do put some good ones out there. Mine are not as fluid no doubt. But at the end of the day all the pretty writeups mean nothing if the end result is losing. And what is Mr. G&T's ROI after 500 plays and 1 year of posting. Around 96%. Beat that and you have a foundation to stand on. And remember he has more years in the game than you.
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    • Easy-Rider 66
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      #72
      Originally posted by mrginandtonic
      My last word to you,JBEX is good luck with your picks. I will be following because of your in-depth understanding and analysis of the game. There is no one better than you here in this forum. I will shut down my thread. I don’t want anyone to lose money because of my guesses. I can feel my luck is running out after one year. Don’t let me down.
      Keep your thread going. At least through the SPA/DMR Meets. Appreciate your insights as I am certain others do as well.
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      • mrginandtonic
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        #73
        Originally posted by JBEX
        I'm a man of my word.. the end
        Any plays today?
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        • Easy-Rider 66
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          #74
          Originally posted by mrginandtonic
          Any plays today?

          See Post #66
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          • JBEX
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            • 01-02-12
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            #75
            Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
            With all due repsect JBEX, I will take Mr. G&T's approach to capping over yours. His supposed LUCK is > than your supposed skill. IMO. As for writeups you do put some good ones out there. Mine are not as fluid no doubt. But at the end of the day all the pretty writeups mean nothing if the end result is losing. And what is Mr. G&T's ROI after 500 plays and 1 year of posting. Around 96%. Beat that and you have a foundation to stand on. And remember he has more years in the game than you.
            not going to go over the same material again..you don't agree with the sample size concept..you're entitled to your opinion..i'm 40 years in..had affirmed winning the belmontand a few years of harness racing prior to that
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            • Easy-Rider 66
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              #76
              Originally posted by JBEX
              not going to go over the same material again..you don't agree with the sample size concept..you're entitled to your opinion..i'm 40 years in..had affirmed winning the belmontand a few years of harness racing prior to that
              OK Sounds good. Agree to disagree it is.
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              • mrginandtonic
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                #77
                Originally posted by JBEX
                del mar

                R3 #3 himmah (6-1)

                nicely set up to stretch out off last ..ran big at a mile 2 back while being close up to a very fast pace..lots of solid races in Ireland as a 2yo so the ability is definitely there


                R8 #7 gia lula (7-2)

                price will probably be a little short but this distance and level good fit for him.. trainer solid turf/dirt
                , short layoff and 8/27 >=2 class drop drowns
                Great, I’m on it. Thank you for the plays.
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                • JBEX
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by JBEX
                  del mar

                  R3 #3 himmah (6-1)

                  nicely set up to stretch out off last ..ran big at a mile 2 back while being close up to a very fast pace..lots of solid races in Ireland as a 2yo so the ability is definitely there


                  R8 #7 gia lula (7-2)

                  price will probably be a little short but this distance and level good fit for him.. trainer solid turf/dirt
                  , short layoff and 8/27 >=2 class drop drowns
                  yes..they get lost a bit in the friendly discussion
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                  • JBEX
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                    Great, I’m on it. Thank you for the plays.
                    give me a break alright
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                    • mrginandtonic
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by JBEX
                      give me a break alright
                      What are you talking about!! Cmon now, don’t be humble. I like them. Wish they were my picks. Now that they have parlays in Xpressbet, think I will do that as well, in addition to my usual WP.
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                      • JBEX
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                        What are you talking about!! Cmon now, don’t be humble. I like them. Wish they were my picks. Now that they have parlays in Xpressbet, think I will do that as well, in addition to my usual WP.

                        good luck and please don't say you'll need it lol
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                        • mrginandtonic
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by JBEX
                          good luck and please don't say you'll need it lol
                          Don’t worry, of course I won’t say that. That’s reserved for me ONLY.
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                          • mrginandtonic
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                            #83
                            03 3:53 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 8 $2.00 WP 7 $4.00

                            08/03 3:52 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 3 $2.00 WP 3 $4.00

                            Sorry JBEX, I’m small roller.
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                            • JBEX
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                              03 3:53 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 8 $2.00 WP 7 $4.00

                              08/03 3:52 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 3 $2.00 WP 3 $4.00

                              Sorry JBEX, I’m small roller.

                              well I certainly can't criticize that..i'd be a hypocrite
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                              • JBEX
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                yes..they get lost a bit in the friendly discussion
                                Last edited by JBEX; 08-03-18, 06:27 PM.
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                                • mrginandtonic
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                  well I certainly can't criticize that..i'd be a hypocrite
                                  I just feel bad not able to take full advantage
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                                  • mrginandtonic
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                    03 3:53 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 8 $2.00 WP 7 $4.00

                                    08/03 3:52 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 3 $2.00 WP 3 $4.00

                                    Sorry JBEX, I’m small roller.
                                    Damn it. So close!! Almost got place. Thank you.
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                                    • JBEX
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                      Damn it. So close!! Almost got place. Thank you.

                                      might not have been the best time to knock when a 60-1 first time starter beat me for 2nd albeit convincingly..i'm off till the last and am sure you'll be watching.. pretty childish but whatever floats your boat.. btw is that sire/dam sire combo an 8.5 furlong pedigree ? probably why he got 2nd
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                                      • Easy-Rider 66
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                                        #89
                                        What we need to do here is have a contest between the JBEX and Mr. G&T. JBEX if you ever get over the sample size Bullshyt and the luck factor with bad trips let me know. Think Mr. G&T would gladly take you on. I can grade the thread. LOL.
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                                        • JBEX
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                          What we need to do here is have a contest between the JBEX and Mr. G&T. JBEX if you ever get over the sample size Bullshyt and the luck factor with bad trips let me know. Think Mr. G&T would gladly take you on. I can grade the thread. LOL.
                                          you've really got to get some new material..so in the example I gave before let's say we both had 160 plays..you had $300 (win only) and I had $260..i miss that horse so it's fair to conclude that you're the better handicapper right.. at what point can we safely draw conclusions whose better.. 400 ? 500? 800? 1500 plays? tell me
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                                          • Easy-Rider 66
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                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by JBEX
                                            you've really got to get some new material..so in the example I gave before let's say we both had 160 plays..you had $300 (win only) and I had $260..i miss that horse so it's fair to conclude that you're the better handicapper right.. at what point can we safely draw conclusions whose better.. 400 ? 500? 800? 1500 plays? tell me
                                            Who Gives a F? You lose so what? Why are you so scared? Do you think because you have posted plays on here for 5 years that you have something to lose. NOT. I really do not know why you play this game? Sample size, bad trips, people getting lucky, throwing darts etc. LOL.
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                                            • JBEX
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                                              #92
                                              WHO GIVES A penetrate.. SO WHY KEEP SCORE. IF AFTER 800 PLAYS NOTHING IS DECIDED THEN WHAT'S THE POINT.. IS ANY MONEY BEING EXCHANGED? DO WE GO ANOTHER 800? WHAT'S THE END POINT?
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                                              • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                                WHO GIVES A penetrate.. SO WHY KEEP SCORE. IF AFTER 800 PLAYS NOTHING IS DECIDED THEN WHAT'S THE POINT.. IS ANY MONEY BEING EXCHANGED? DO WE GO ANOTHER 800? WHAT'S THE END POINT?
                                                Death.
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                                                • mrginandtonic
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                  might not have been the best time to knock when a 60-1 first time starter beat me for 2nd albeit convincingly..i'm off till the last and am sure you'll be watching.. pretty childish but whatever floats your boat.. btw is that sire/dam sire combo an 8.5 furlong pedigree ? probably why he got 2nd
                                                  How is that childish? I’m using my own real money to make money. I was rooting for the 3.

                                                  Don’t ask me about pedigree, I have no info on those.

                                                  Will be rooting for you again later.
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                                                  • JBEX
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                    How is that childish? I’m using my own real money to make money. I was rooting for the 3.

                                                    Don’t ask me about pedigree, I have no info on those.

                                                    Will be rooting for you again later.

                                                    so after all the back n forth we had on here today how am I supposed to react to you having my horses.. it's not sarcasm.. give me a break ..or did we just happen to land on the same ones.. kind of hard to fathom
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                                                    • JBEX
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                      Death.

                                                      I'll tell you what . you want to grade me in this thread go ahead.. only doing maidens at big tracks in here from now on as i want to focus on the them more.. on big race card days may break training but that will be in a different thread ..THOSE PLAYS NO GRADING..just these.. I WANT TO DO WELL JUST TO SAY THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE...2 WP that's it
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                                                      • mrginandtonic
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                        What we need to do here is have a contest between the JBEX and Mr. G&T. JBEX if you ever get over the sample size Bullshyt and the luck factor with bad trips let me know. Think Mr. G&T would gladly take you on. I can grade the thread. LOL.
                                                        Ah EZ, thank you for the gesture. I can never have a contest with JBEX. My luck is running out as you can the past few days in my thread. I will not have a chance playing against someone who is so well rounded and knowledgeable. Thank you though.
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                                                        • mrginandtonic
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by JBEX
                                                          so after all the back n forth we had on here today how am I supposed to react to you having my horses.. it's not sarcasm.. give me a break ..or did we just happen to land on the same ones.. kind of hard to fathom
                                                          Did you think that I am being sarcastic? I am just a bunch of BALONEY, remember. Like I said, at the end of the day, I am about making money. You are the expert and you have enlightened me. I will bet with your plays because surely I will make money in the end. I am in no way sarcastic. I am just a little critical as you have taught me. Carry on with your plays, JBEX. I am here to make money.
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                                                          • JBEX
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                            Ah EZ, thank you for the gesture. I can never have a contest with JBEX. My luck is running out as you can the past few days in my thread. I will not have a chance playing against someone who is so well rounded and knowledgeable. Thank you though.
                                                            if we asked the person who wrote that article if it mattered whether it was a system or just handicapping to come to a conclusion if there's an edge do you think he would say it does?? he seems like a knowledgeable sort.. I don't think so.. remember the average odds of 9-1 is probably very similar to yours I would guess.. btw that matters in sample size.. avg odds
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                                                            • JBEX
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                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                              Did you think that I am being sarcastic? I am just a bunch of BALONEY, remember. Like I said, at the end of the day, I am about making money. You are the expert and you have enlightened me. I will bet with your plays because surely I will make money in the end. I am in no way sarcastic. I am just a little critical as you have taught me. Carry on with your plays, JBEX. I am here to make money.
                                                              that was related to your ability to determine horses best distance to the sixteenth by their pedigree..that's all.. and you really haven't learned much if you feel someone has to perform well over the next 100-200 plays.. the most skilled player could lose over this small sample.. I've been talking the exact opposite the whole time.. geez you gotta take better notes
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                                                              • mrginandtonic
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                that was related to your ability to determine horses best distance to the sixteenth by their pedigree..that's all.. and you really haven't learned much if you feel someone has to perform well over the next 100-200 plays.. the most skilled player could lose over this small sample.. I've been talking the exact opposite the whole time.. geez you gotta take better notes
                                                                Sorry, that was my poor extrapolation on the BALONEY skills that I have.
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                                                                • mrginandtonic
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  YES, GOT PLACE!! Good call. Thank you.



                                                                  08/03 3:53 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 8 $2.00 WP 7 $4.00 $4.60
                                                                  Last edited by mrginandtonic; 08-03-18, 09:43 PM. Reason: my bet
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                                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                    I'll tell you what . you want to grade me in this thread go ahead.. only doing maidens at big tracks in here from now on as i want to focus on the them more.. on big race card days may break training but that will be in a different thread ..THOSE PLAYS NO GRADING..just these.. I WANT TO DO WELL JUST TO SAY THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE...2 WP that's it
                                                                    I will pass on grading this thread. But I will keep open the offer of a contest between you and I starting with Keeneland in OCT. Just the major venues. Small w/p and $1 ex. Max $20/race. We keep it going to one of us realizes we are done and hopelessly behind. What will it prove? Not much except for that period one of us was the better capper. And you can focus on any race you like. I do not care. Think it over. 2 months until Keeneland commences.
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                                                                    • mrginandtonic
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                                      YES, GOT PLACE!! Good call. Thank you.

                                                                      Thought my 10 was gonna nip your 7. Thank god, she didn't.


                                                                      08/03 3:33 PM Del Mar Thoroughbred Club 1 $1.00 P8 (PWHL) 6 / 6 / 6 / 10 / 3, 8 / 5, 6 / 6 / 6, 10 $8.00
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                                                                      • JBEX
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                                        Sorry, that was my poor extrapolation on the BALONEY skills that I have.
                                                                        just pedigree that's all.. and you can't have bad skills relating to things you know nothing about like the things I mentioned earlier ...so at least that's a positive
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