thorograph

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-26-16, 06:27 AM

It will be interesting to see how you fare using the T-Graph products. Every year they let use you the product for free around end of the year. GL.

**brucedenton** · 12-26-16, 08:36 AM

I'm interested in seeing how you do too, JBEX. Why are their regular prices ridiculous?? Do people actually buy them at that price??

**JBEX** · 12-26-16, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by brucedenton

I'm interested in seeing how you do too, JBEX. Why are their regular prices ridiculous?? Do people actually buy them at that price??

believe it's very labor intensive to make them and they have to have personnel on hand at the track to do it..they make multiple track variants during the card based on the surface changing do to weather if that's applicable..take into account wind, ground loss..sure I'm missing some things but that's a lot of it. ..they explain it in FAQ at their site..trainers,owners and heavy hitters do buy them..believe if you get multiple tracks daily you'll get a discount but not sure what it is

What happens over the course of a week proves little good or bad..I just like getting the opportunity to use them

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-26-16, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

believe it's very labor intensive to make them and they have to have personnel on hand at the track to do it..they make multiple track variants during the card based on the surface changing do to weather if that's applicable..take into account wind, ground loss..sure I'm missing some things but that's a lot of it. ..they explain it in FAQ at their site..trainers,owners and heavy hitters do buy them..believe if you get multiple tracks daily you'll get a discount but not sure what it is

What happens over the course of a week proves little good or bad..I just like getting the opportunity to use them

Yeah I can not afford to purchase them on a regular basis. But they do sell single races for $5 and every now and then if I am doing well in a contest will purchase a single race at times.

**Brooklyn Dick** · 12-26-16, 09:51 AM

Thoro Graph Prices per Day for All

Thoro-Graph's Price Caps*

Race Days
Mondays = $25
Tuesdays = $25
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday* = $50
Saturday,Sunday, Holidays,Select Racing Days= $75

Download All** data for from our main Buy TG Data or Simulcast menus and your total
daily race day charge will be capped at these totals.

**Excludes Individual Sheet Requests & Specials

If you do not have an account, please sign up for a "full" account
by clicking on the link on the upper right . (A credit

**JBEX** · 12-26-16, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick

Thoro-Graph's Price Caps*

Race Days
Mondays = $25
Tuesdays = $25
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday* = $50
Saturday,Sunday, Holidays,Select Racing Days= $75

Download All** data for from our main Buy TG Data or Simulcast menus and your total
daily race day charge will be capped at these totals.

**Excludes Individual Sheet Requests & Specials

If you do not have an account, please sign up for a "full" account
by clicking on the link on the upper right . (A credit

thanks brooklyn dick

**JBEX** · 12-26-16, 11:09 AM

I'm going to try to incorporate thoro pattern into my plays which seems to credit younger lightly raced horses who are a little slower than some of the others..believe I understand how to use it (ragozins don't have this)but don't ask me to explain..it doesn't always apply to every horse but it's given for them all and you have to decide for yourself ..I'm more used to ragozins which I used more when I occasionally had access to them through friends

R1 #5 crazy frank c (4-1)
R2 #3 valoordo (20-1)
R3 #6 kid's kid (7-2)

**JBEX** · 12-26-16, 11:36 AM

R4 #8 defer heaven (4-5)

just ridiculous how much better his numbers are than the rest and they don't risk losing him via the claim in this starter optional claimer..trainer such a crook..never seen a 6yo turn around so much as he has since this guys taken over and he does this regularly

R5 #5 gracie's way (12-1)

**JBEX** · 12-26-16, 01:53 PM

R6 #1 milbra (6-1)
R7 #7 county court (6-1)
R8 #7 sport (5-1)
R9 #7 ice cutter (4-1)
R10 #6 giddy up (9-2)
R11 #8 draft (9-2)

**JBEX** · 12-26-16, 03:58 PM

santa anita

R8 malibu stakes G1

#5 jazzy times (8-1)

approaching this race similarly to how he approached big figure race he ran at dmr 7/31

R9 mathis brothers mile G2

#1 mittersill (8-1)

solid figures and nice spacing last two..think this field
within his grasp at a bit of a price

**JBEX** · 12-27-16, 10:26 AM

just starting on mahoning..if it seems impossible or no feel not gonna bother and will say so

**JBEX** · 12-27-16, 11:12 AM

R1 #7 granite peak (3-5)
minus pool if they have show which they should

R2 #8 nikispring (9-2)
R3 #6 nocturnal q (8-1)

**JBEX** · 12-27-16, 11:54 AM

R4 #4 brass buckle (8-1)
R5 #6 ocala magic (30-1)

2nd post

**JBEX** · 12-27-16, 12:23 PM

R6 #7 outriders posse (8-1)
R7 #8 weekend melody (10-1)
R8 #8 bella figlia (9-2)
R9 #10 how about peace (8-1)

3rd and final post

**JBEX** · 12-27-16, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

R1 #7 granite peak (3-5)
minus pool if they have show which they should

R2 #8 nikispring (9-2)
R3 #6 nocturnal q (8-1)

dead heat for the win with mine 1/5..100k WPS pool and typically 30-40k ..on the other hand show didn't pay 2.10 for the other two so not sure what that adds up to bridge jumper wise...affirmed/alydar down the stretch quite the battle! !..17 lengths back to the rest of the field

**JBEX** · 12-28-16, 10:30 AM

GP

R1 #8 sweet madea (8-1)
R2 #7 big money machine (5-1)
R3 #3 motherland (5-2)
R4 #3 ventina* (6-1)
R5 #4 chaparron (8-1)

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 11:02 AM

Might post some GP and Tampa in here today. Using T-Graph on some points bets.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 12:18 PM

Tampa Race 1: Playing the #6 to win. 6/8 box.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 12:39 PM

Post time at GP: Playing #5 to win.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 12:39 PM

That is race 1

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 12:56 PM

TB Race 2: Playing the 7 to win. 1/7 box.

**JBEX** · 12-28-16, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Tampa Race 1: Playing the #6 to win. 6/8 box.

WOW $73 horse...nice !! I got tampa so if you want to go back n forth with who you like and I'll post mine that's fine..
he had a number 3 back in a route that put him right in the mix but last two were off

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

WOW $73 horse...nice !! I got tampa so if you want to go back n forth with who you like and I'll post mine that's fine

Yeah good idea. Thx. The 6 was reluctant to load into the gate again so was not confident late. But he had the 2nd best T-Graph # to the fav so thought he was worth a shot at 35/1.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Post time at GP: Playing #5 to win.

Finished 2nd at 4/1

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-28-16, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

TB Race 2: Playing the 7 to win. 1/7 box.

Out of the $$

**JBEX** · 12-28-16, 01:05 PM

I'll start another thread so we can go back and forth next couple of days. .This way if I post my stuff early it doesn't get lost

**JBEX** · 12-28-16, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

GP

R1 #8 sweet madea (8-1)
R2 #7 big money machine (5-1)
R3 #3 motherland (5-2)
R4 #3 ventina* (6-1)
R5 #4 chaparron (8-1)

just forwarding today's

**JBEX** · 12-29-16, 11:08 AM

GP

R1 #1 thanks god (3-1)
R2 #9 sassy sierra (2-1)
R3 #8 asked and answered (3-1)
R4 #6 wild dalton (9-2)

**JBEX** · 12-29-16, 02:13 PM

R5 #1 arthemisia (20-1)
R9 #3 seven of jack (12-1)
R10 #5 later (9-2)

**JBEX** · 12-29-16, 03:04 PM

santa anita

R4 #2 ucanthankmelater (7-2 )
R5 #4 sea smoke (6-1)
R6 #2 jet ski (6-1)
R7 #4 carlos dangerous (4-1)
R8 #10 miss sugars (6-1)

**JBEX** · 12-30-16, 10:18 AM

aqueduct

just went through the sheets with no regards for odds..Wound up with a lot of chalk but figured I'd post anyway..good or fast to play

R2 #1 nominal dollars (5-1)
R3 #3 bonita bianca (6-5)
R4 #7 bartleby (2-1)
R5 #4 tuscan getaway (3-1)
R6 #8 samadi sky (4-1)
R7 #5 danebury (4-5)
R8 #5 second city (3-1)
R9 #4 cheering for al (2-1)

**JBEX** · 12-31-16, 10:37 AM

aqueduct

R1 #7 play me a memory (8-5)
R2 #3 kickoff (6-1)
R4 #5 bond vigilante (10-1)
R5 #9 sol the freud (8-1)

**JBEX** · 12-31-16, 12:50 PM

GP R10 allen jerkens 2 miles

#10 montclair (5-1)

very steady figure wise and those numbers in the ballpark to win here..#3 definitely better figs but hoping the marathon distance and euro bloodlines will aid him here..hit slightly better numbers racing over in france as a 4yo

**JBEX** · 12-31-16, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

GP R10 allen jerkens 2 miles

#10 montclair (5-1)

very steady figure wise and those numbers in the ballpark to win here..#3 definitely better figs but hoping the marathon distance and euro bloodlines will aid him here..hit slightly better numbers racing over in france as a 4yo

11..one horse I can't get the number right (mixed up with the race)

sorry