Twinspires or DRFbets(expressbet)

**DDT** · 04-25-13, 02:22 PM

I wish DRFbets was allowed in Texas....Twinspires is ok though

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 04:59 PM

Express bet offers FREE drf past performances if you prefer them.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 05:06 PM

They are both inferior to places like offtrackbetting.com as well as many other lesser known legal ADW'S.

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

They are both inferior to places like offtrackbetting.com as well as many other lesser known legal ADW'S.

WRONG. Dont listen to shills.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by pulledclear

WRONG. Dont listen to shills.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by pulledclear

WRONG. Dont listen to shills.

If your gambling on horses for serious money and your not getting rebates your an idiot.

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 05:31 PM

Showing a print out of a 2013 Simulcasting license Issued in North Dakota!!

Nice Past Performances ?!?!?!? Dont flush your money away go with a PROVEN long run site so your money is SECURE.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by pulledclear

Showing a print out of a 2013 Simulcasting license Issued in North Dakota!!

Nice Past Performances ?!?!?!? Dont flush your money away go with a PROVEN long run site so your money is SECURE.

What print out are you talking about? Who's talking about past performances? Get a clue before making a statement about something you clearly have no idea about.

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 06:59 PM

If you dont know what im talking about, then you really are clueless.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 07:04 PM

I was just trying to help the original poster out with a superior ADW option that he may not have been aware of. Not argue with an odvious idiot which you clearly are.

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 07:07 PM

Superior option!!!!????

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 07:07 PM

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by pulledclear

Superior option!!!!????

Evidently you dont like free money.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 07:12 PM

Send me the link to the last legal ADW that went belly up and stiffed there players.

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 07:15 PM

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 07:16 PM

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 07:16 PM

A desperate attempt at credibility.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 07:18 PM

Can we get some horse players with a clue to chime in here?

**pulledclear** · 04-25-13, 07:23 PM

Dude if you like them good for you. You started by saying both Twin Spires and Express Bet were "inferior" which is completely WRONG.

**Slimpickens** · 04-25-13, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by pulledclear

Dude if you like them good for you. You started by saying both Twin Spires and Express Bet were "inferior" which is completely WRONG.

I can see you making a case for that but if you did some research and tried a place like the one I mentioned I promise you would never go back to twinspires or expressbet.

**BGboothA** · 04-25-13, 10:58 PM

Twinspires and Expressbet are inferior if you are going to be betting large sums of money. Yes you get a free PP by playing those two sites. Congrats, with a good rebate system in place you can more than pay for your own PPs.

**mikemca** · 04-26-13, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

Can we get some horse players with a clue to chime in here?

I think you are both right.Rebates are a big part of the game nowadays and Twinspires rewards program is a joke but if security is your #1 concern then there isn't a site with a more solid foundation.Once they acquired Youbet they became a giant in an industry full of dwarfs.Xpressbet is probably the nearest competitor and I doubt they even have 1/2 the clients Twinspires does.There are pros and cons to both , it's all about what is important to you.

**Slimpickens** · 04-26-13, 10:01 AM

ADW's are not like offshore sportsbooks. They are legal and licensed in the US and get there cut out of every bet that you place. Who is bigger or considered a giant is irrelevant. Not to mention the software on places like offtrackbetting.com are much better than drfbets/expressbet. The only realalistic case that one could make IMO to use a place like expressbet is if you are getting the free pp's you want. I use formulator and they dont give them for free for wagering so it means nothing to me to see some cheap brisnet pp's.

**unusialsusp5** · 04-26-13, 10:47 AM

no mention of tvg here since they have dropped their ridiculous .25 per wager fee which maxed out at 20.00 per month but now since dropped makes them a viable option. not familiar with software reliability with offtrackbetting.com but hard to argue against their rebate program. twinspires only offers those cheesey brisnet pp's and virtually no rebate program but website user friendly. drf bets (expressbet) might be worth trying for the signup bonus and free drf pp's (25.00) per card minumum bet requirement however (not that unreachable) if only there were one that offered free pp's(either drf or bris) plus a rebate program and had solid software interface then all would be perfect in the horse race betting world.

**mikemca** · 04-26-13, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

ADW's are not like offshore sportsbooks. They are legal and licensed in the US and get there cut out of every bet that you place. Who is bigger or considered a giant is irrelevant. Not to mention the software on places like offtrackbetting.com are much better than drfbets/expressbet. The only realalistic case that one could make IMO to use a place like expressbet is if you are getting the free pp's you want. I use formulator and they dont give them for free for wagering so it means nothing to me to see some cheap brisnet pp's.

I guess you have a point there.

Spent like 10 minutes looking at what else is out there and there seems to be a lot .Idabet,Amwest,Offtrackbetting,Betptc all look like they have good reward programs.

I have gotten comfortable with Twinspires and never needed to look for a new adw.They do have a reward program even if it isn't the best,they always have several promotions running with my favorite being 0% take out Pick 3's,twinspires express/pro is the only platform I've ever used starting with youbet,they get me checks in around 3 days, and the TSOHC is there every year .I could care less about whatever pps a site gives.

**homerbush** · 04-26-13, 11:23 AM

I vote in this order the four I have used
twinspires
tvg now since fee is gone
dayatthetrack
drf bets xpressbet

**balls2wall** · 04-26-13, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by jameski999

I've always been a twinspires guy but DRFbets offering good sign up bonus was thinking about giving it a chance. Anybody got any good or bad experiences with DRFbets

I personally like xpressbet. I use them and twinspires

**JakeLc** · 04-26-13, 03:18 PM

I don't like Twinspires so I don't use them. I use rebate shops or Xpressbet. The TVG interface is horrible.

**pulledclear** · 04-26-13, 03:33 PM

TVG is a joke. Personally if im not at a racebook I use Twinspires.

**TonyP** · 04-27-13, 05:05 PM

I have both Twinspires and Xpress, I dont use DRF pp's, I prefer Bris and Twinspires, I bookmarked TwinSPires TV so it goes str8 to the video page that I wager from.