U.S., the country that used to be #1 in civil liberties is now #46, and once they finally seize this site and any like it, we will probably drop to #51. I love this country, that is why it pisses me off to see what ALL the political parties, and the vast number of lazy ass Americans are doing to it. But a lot has to do with the fact that what once was one of the leading countries in education has now fallen to #26 of 34 in rankings of all OEDC countries around the world. That, compiled with people thinking it's easier to receive a handout rather than working for anything themselves, is slowly turning this great nation into a broke, laughing stock of the world. Republicans take care of the greedy, Democrats take care of the lazy, but there is no one to take care of the hard working middle class which actually keeps this country going. Meaning, little by little, this class starts to become the lazy as well. It has nothing do with Grinder having a snow covered mountain to ski down, even North Korea has those.
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This. While I don't agree that handouts completely equal laziness, social programs run by the government are always going to contradict the political philosophies that allowed America to become the greatest world power. With Hillary in the White House next (it's inevitable) it's only going to get worst. It seems that all any one cares about any more is racism, sexism, and homophobia. I rarely hear discussions about crazy things like economic growth, education, or preserving individual liberties. And I currently attend a top 20 university. It's incredibly frustrating and neither one of the parties have a platform that makes any sense.
Sorry for adding to the discourse, but sometimes I need to vent.Comment -
Thank you for your expressions on the current state of affairs in the USA.
It is hard to battle powerful interests that would rather have control of our country and the
world in the hands of international corporations.
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I would say "Amen" to that, but that may trigger Grinder to start a religious debate next, which I definitely am not in the mood for, now or ever!Comment -
We'd better get back to discussing hockey before some control freak mod comes in here and shuts us down.Comment -
Wallco ...Thank you for the Sharks winner.
You are always appreciated.
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Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 164-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +31.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0
(2/27/14):
#170 San Jose (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 82-36
(B) 27-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 33-19
(B) 10-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (2/28/14):
#171 San Jose @ Buffalo (+1½) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#172 Minnesota @ Vancouver (M/L) v1 (A) (10:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
I'll admit I'm an optimist and not a hand wringing worrier. Pessimists that do nothing but complain with out doing anything bug me. They grip about politics but stay on the sidelines pointing fingers.
I'll shut up and yes. I'm on the city council because I actually want to fix things.
Back to what is REALLY important. LOL. Hockey and the NBA
the subject is done. Move along. Nothing to see here.Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 165-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +32.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.50 units)
(2/28/14):
#171 Buffalo (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#172 Vancouver (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
v1 Fades
(A) 83-37
(B) 27-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 33-19
(B) 10-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/1/14):
#172 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/3/14
#173 Carolina (+1½) @ L.A. Kings v2 (A) (4:05 pm EST)
#174 Washington @ Boston (M/L) v1 (A) (1:05 pm EST)
#175 Carolina (+1½) @ L.A. Kings v1 (A) (4:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 165-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +32.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 4 (-7.40 units)
(3/1/14):
#173 Carolina (+1½) v2 (A) - Loss
#174 Boston (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#175 Carolina (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss
v1 Fades
(A) 83-39
(B) 27-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 33-20
(B) 10-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/2/14):
#172 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/3/14
#173 Carolina (+1½) @ Anaheim v2 (B) (8:05 pm EST)
#174 Philadelphia (+1½) @ Washington v1 (B) (12:35 pm EST)
#175 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/3/14
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 166-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +33.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-10.03 units)
(3/2/14):
#173 Carolina (+1½) v2 (B) - Loss
#174 Philadelphia (+1½) v1 (B) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 83-39
(B) 28-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 33-20
(B) 10-10
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/3/14):
#172 Calgary (+1½) @ Minnesota v1 (B) (8:05 pm EST)
#173 Resumes v2 (C) on 3/4/14
#175 Montreal (+1½) @ L.A. Kings v1 (B) (10:35 pm EST)
#176 Buffalo @ Dallas (M/L) v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 169-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +36.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-6.58 units)
(3/3/14):
#172 Calgary (+1½) v1 (B) - Win
#175 Montreal (+1½) v1 (B) - Win
#176 Dallas (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 84-39
(B) 30-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 33-20
(B) 10-10
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/4/14):
#173 Carolina (+1½) @ San Jose v2 (C) (10:35 pm EST)
#177 Pittsburgh (M/L) @ Nashville v2 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
2 wins wallco
thanks manComment -
I think montreal +1.5( PL) is a play tomorrow. am i right man?Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 171-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +38.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0
(3/4/14):
#173 Carolina (+1½) v2 (C) - Win
#177 Pittsburgh (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 84-39
(B) 30-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 34-20
(B) 10-10
(C) 9-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/5/14):
#178 Montreal (+1½) @ Anaheim v1 (A) (10:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Last edited by Wallco99; 03-05-14, 06:08 PM.Comment -
Thanks Wallco, Parlayed the 'canes and penguins last night. Cashed a nice little ticket. Always love those + money wins.Comment -
GLSTRAIGHT BET Mar 05 NHL [57] MONTREAL +1½-185 1480.00 SBR / 800.00 SBR 2424523 Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 172-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +39.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0
(3/5/14):
#178 Montreal (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 85-39
(B) 30-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 34-20
(B) 10-10
(C) 9-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/6/14):
#179 Columbus @ Chicago (M/L) v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
#180 Colorado @ Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
When usually the final lines occur?Comment -
Hey, first of all wanted to say thanks for your system, Ive just started playing that and I really like that.
Just got one question, let me put it on example:
Team A is hot, and on winning streak. Team A won game 1, game 2, 3, 4, etc
So, our system says, we gonna play against that team starting in game 4 (pick A).
Team A wins by 2 goals, we lose.
Game 5 our team wins by 1 goal, we had +1,5 for an opponent (pick B), so we win.
So now, our series is over, we won in pick B. But Team A still has 5 wins in a row.
As I can see today, you are not playing against Kings (which are on 5 games win streak, and in last game they won by 1 goal, and we played their opponent +1,5, so Kings = Team A)- so it means, that after our series is over, we dont keep playing against Team A, but we start counting wins to system V1 once again right?
Now the question is which game is first then. is that the game we won our pick B, or the next one?
If Team A wins game 6 and game 7, do we play against them in game 8, or we need them to win game6,game7 and game8 to play against them in game9?
So its like that:
Game 1 - win (system V1 1st win)
Game 2 - win (system V1 2nd win)
Game 3 - win (system V1 3rd win)
Game 4 - win + pick A, pick loses
Game 5 - win + pick B, pick wins, series over, (system V1 1st win?)
Game 6 - win (system V1 2nd win)
Game 7 - win (system V1 3rd win)
Game 8 - pick A?
I hope its clear and easy to understand, sorry for my english.Last edited by Jason87; 03-06-14, 08:32 AM.Comment -
I guess it's like:
Games: 1,2,3 - counting
Games: 4,5 - our chase
and counting again starting with Game 6.Comment -
So game 7 will be the start of our next chase if that team wins 6 in a row. thx.Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 173-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +40.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.13 units)
(3/6/14):
#179 Chicago (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
#180 Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
v1 Fades
(A) 86-40
(B) 30-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 34-20
(B) 10-10
(C) 9-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/7/14):
#180 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/8/14
#181 N.Y. Rangers (M/L) @ Carolina v2 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
Nice!Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 174-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +41.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.15 units)
(3/7/14):
#181 N.Y. Rangers (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 86-40
(B) 30-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 35-20
(B) 10-10
(C) 9-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/8/14):
#180 St. Louis (M/L) @ Colorado v1 (B) (3:05 pm EST)
#182 St. Louis @ Colorado (+1½) v1 (A) (3:05 pm EST)
#183 Phoenix @ Washington (M/L) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#184 Boston @ Tampa Bay (+1½) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#185 Boston @ Tampa Bay (+1½) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#186 Philadelphia @ Toronto (M/L) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 180-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +47.51 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0
(3/8/14):
#180 St. Louis (M/L) v1 (B) - Win
#182 Colorado (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#183 Washington (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
#184 Tampa Bay (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#185 Tampa Bay (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#186 Toronto (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 89-40
(B) 31-9
(C) 4-5
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u), TOR (-13.89 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 37-20
(B) 10-10
(C) 9-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)
Games for (3/9/14):
#187 L.A. Kings @ Edmonton (+1½) v1 (A) (9:05 pm EST)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment
