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  • ZdenoK
    SBR MVP
    • 03-25-13
    • 1741

    #421
    Originally posted by CatHawk
    You have confidence in Talbot (Rangers) tonight?
    Without Lundqvist I can see it go two-ways: Either a nice confident victory for Rangers or a small loss for them. NYR are playing the best hockey of the year. Offense is on fire, powered by Nash and Zuccarello, recently a boost by other players too and Callahan has silenced the talk about problems revolving around his contract at the match vs Colorado (he scored 2 goals and added an assist). I'd be very confident with King Henrik in net, he allowed like 1 goal in each of past 3 matches but Talbot shouldn't be underestimated either. When Lundqvist was in a slump, Talbot was #1, doing the job quite good. Rangers also have upper-hand over Oilers with special teams (PP and PK). Edmonton did wake up recently, the Scrivens trade was a good move or so it seems. They have now won 4/5 after the 6-losses streak. But they were playing vs teams who are struggling with scoring - San Jose, Vancouver, also Nashville so these victories are a bit overrated. They were shown their place in Boston where they have lost with 4-0. Despite the recent points streak they are still dead last in West and 2nd last in the league overall. Rangers are in a very good form, they need points and with tonight's victory they can boost to #4 in East even (if their rivals lose). The only way I can see Edmonton getting this one is if Rangers get too offensive and Oilers score a couple of goals on them because of it, since Talbot is in the net.
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    • CatHawk
      SBR Sharp
      • 11-23-13
      • 323

      #422
      Ok. I remember Talbot's performance earlier this year. He was doing well. If the rust didn't cake up in his joints too much he can continue that tonight.

      It'll be tough for Scrivens if they don't lock down on Def tonight. He's seeing way too many shots a game since being in Oilers. I give him all the credit in the world for those saves, but Oilers defense is terrible. Like 39 shots a game when Scrivens starts for them. Not too mention that 59 shot game shutout (Sharks; lost money there).
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      • CatHawk
        SBR Sharp
        • 11-23-13
        • 323

        #423
        Ya that streak of the Oilers was at the cost of a few struggling teams.
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        • ZdenoK
          SBR MVP
          • 03-25-13
          • 1741

          #424
          Battle for Canadian #1 in Sochi should be good. Both teams with defensive gameplay, Vancouver without Henrik and struggling offensively... should stay under 5.

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          • CatHawk
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-23-13
            • 323

            #425
            Already on it!
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            • atofsu32111
              SBR MVP
              • 02-18-08
              • 2801

              #426
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              • ZdenoK
                SBR MVP
                • 03-25-13
                • 1741

                #427
                Originally posted by atofsu32111
                Just terrible but it seems as if puck has hit Bournival and bounced directly to White while Luongo was searching for it infront of him and both Vancouver d-men were holding Bournival. Unlucky goal but not sure if it's right to blame it on Luongo. One of the D-men should have White covered... Canucks #24 let go of his player - White - and jumped in to cover Bournival so White was free.
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                • CatHawk
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-23-13
                  • 323

                  #428
                  Jeez. Two penalty shots. What a mess the Canucks are...
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                  • CatHawk
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-23-13
                    • 323

                    #429
                    That Oilers goal was whack. Talbot lost track of a funny high bouncing rebound. Lets hope Rangers get the decider here in reg
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                    • ZdenoK
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-25-13
                      • 1741

                      #430
                      Long Island teams are butt-penetrating me... lemme guess, both will go in OT and both will win then.

                      Okay, never mind it, Islanders will lose.
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                      • CatHawk
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 11-23-13
                        • 323

                        #431
                        I went Flames. Very glad they allowed that goal
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                        • ZdenoK
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-25-13
                          • 1741

                          #432
                          Yakupov wtf!? Should have been Rangers who would score a minute before the end!
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                          • ZdenoK
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-25-13
                            • 1741

                            #433
                            penetrate me, at least Minnesota ends up with a victory.
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                            • ZdenoK
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-25-13
                              • 1741

                              #434
                              Ben Bishop left the match early tonight with another injury. I have no idea how serious it is and if he will be able to play vs Detroit in 2 days. I have also not much idea about these AHL teams: Syracuse and Springfield, I just know Syracuse is affiliate of Tampa Bay and if Bishop is out, they are getting the goalies from there prior the match vs Red Wings so I'll just lay a bet on tomorrow's match against Syracuse meaning I'll be backing up Springfield Falcons reg. @ -108 MarathonBet 5/10.
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                              • ZdenoK
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-25-13
                                • 1741

                                #435
                                Buahahaha, German 2nd league... Riessersee will have a field player in net vs Rosenheim because all of their goalies are injured and Rosenheim didn't agree to postpone the match!

                                ✪ Be part of the legend ✪ Alle Infos rund um den SC Riessersee, Ticketshop, Team, Tabellen, Spielplan, Geschichten & Legenden, News uvm.


                                If your bookie didn't remove the match yet, play it or use it as a combo material.
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                                • ZdenoK
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-25-13
                                  • 1741

                                  #436
                                  7.2.2014 - DEL2
                                  Starbulls Rosenheim -2.5 @ -134 MarathonBet 5/10
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                                  • ZdenoK
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-25-13
                                    • 1741

                                    #437
                                    Springfield has won 4-2 and Rosenheim match got cancelled.
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                                    • ZdenoK
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-25-13
                                      • 1741

                                      #438
                                      Live NHL: Pittsburgh Penguins in shootout @ +132 MarathongBet 5/10

                                      Ridicolous odds on Penguins to win in shootout...
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                                      • ZdenoK
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-25-13
                                        • 1741

                                        #439
                                        8.2.2014 - NHL
                                        Detroit Red Wings ML @ +112 MarathonBet 4/10
                                        Detroit Red Wings team totals over 2.5 @ +100 Pinnacle 3/10

                                        Value in Detroit. Tampa Bay probably won't risk Bishop in the final day before the break for his injury to advance. Desjardins is poop. They are also without Filppula which is a huge blow. Detroit on the other side got Datsyuk back just in the right time before Sochi. They had problems beating Florida but in the end went home with 2 points. Wings are currently 8th and they could really use points to stay there. Tough match-up for them because Tampa Bay has won all 3 mutual matches so far though but IMO Detroit shouldn't be underdog here.
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                                        • kevin101
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-24-13
                                          • 2260

                                          #440
                                          I totally agree. On detriot myself
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                                          • ZdenoK
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-25-13
                                            • 1741

                                            #441
                                            Originally posted by ZdenoK
                                            7.2.2014 - DEL2
                                            Starbulls Rosenheim -2.5 @ -134 MarathonBet 5/10
                                            This match got cancelled after 1-0 for Rosenheim. MarathonBet has voided it.
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                                            • ZdenoK
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-25-13
                                              • 1741

                                              #442
                                              13.2.2014 - Sochi Olympics
                                              Russia -4.5 @ -137 Pinnacle 6/10
                                              Russia/Slovenia over 6.5 @ -118 Pinnacle 6/10

                                              I was expecting a bigger underestimation of Slovenian national team against hosts. It will be the first match for Russians and they will want to open their tournament with a confident victory to show they are the main contender for gold. They have a very good chance for that because they can crush Slovenia in their opening match. Slovenian team consists more or less of a constant team members through the past years, the only great additions are Kopitar and Mursak. Russia on the other side has their top NHL and some of KHL team. Compared to Canada or USA Russians are a bit weaker in the defense so they will want to bet on their powerful offense which is too much of quality for Slovenians in every aspect.



                                              To contrast it a bit: in IIHF WC 2011 in Bratislava Slovenia played 6-4 vs Russians and in that match Kovalchuk and Radulov alone were dangling the whole Slovenian team while Slovenians were scoring lucky bounces goals from impossible situations. I've been there so I know! In reality I expect a result along 7-1 for Russia in Sochi. Slovenian defense won't be able to stop fast and powerful Russian offense so there will also be many penalties. I think it's safe to assume Russians will capitalize their chances. Probably Robert Kristan will start in net for Slovenia but it doesn't really matter which goalie will start because he will have to stand on his head to allow less than 5 goals. Kristan or Gracnar are capable of doing that but... it's opening match against powerful hosts. To illustrate it a bit: in Vancouver 2010 Canada as a host played their opening match vs Norway and they have won with 8-0. In the same day Russia played their first match beating Latvia with 8-2. Perhaps I'm underestimating Slovenian team but I think it's worth of grabbing these odds early.
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                                              • ZdenoK
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-25-13
                                                • 1741

                                                #443
                                                Originally posted by ZdenoK
                                                13.2.2014 - Sochi Olympics
                                                Russia -4.5 @ -137 Pinnacle 6/10
                                                Russia/Slovenia over 6.5 @ -118 Pinnacle 6/10

                                                I was expecting a bigger underestimation of Slovenian national team against hosts. It will be the first match for Russians and they will want to open their tournament with a confident victory to show they are the main contender for gold. They have a very good chance for that because they can crush Slovenia in their opening match. Slovenian team consists more or less of a constant team members through the past years, the only great additions are Kopitar and Mursak. Russia on the other side has their top NHL and some of KHL team. Compared to Canada or USA Russians are a bit weaker in the defense so they will want to bet on their powerful offense which is too much of quality for Slovenians in every aspect.



                                                To contrast it a bit: in IIHF WC 2011 in Bratislava Slovenia played 6-4 vs Russians and in that match Kovalchuk and Radulov alone were dangling the whole Slovenian team while Slovenians were scoring lucky bounces goals from impossible situations. I've been there so I know! In reality I expect a result along 7-1 for Russia in Sochi. Slovenian defense won't be able to stop fast and powerful Russian offense so there will also be many penalties. I think it's safe to assume Russians will capitalize their chances. Probably Robert Kristan will start in net for Slovenia but it doesn't really matter which goalie will start because he will have to stand on his head to allow less than 5 goals. Kristan or Gracnar are capable of doing that but... it's opening match against powerful hosts. To illustrate it a bit: in Vancouver 2010 Canada as a host played their opening match vs Norway and they have won with 8-0. In the same day Russia played their first match beating Latvia with 8-2. Perhaps I'm underestimating Slovenian team but I think it's worth of grabbing these odds early.
                                                Found a nice bet at Betsson:
                                                Russia - Slovenia : Total powerplay goals over 1.5 @ -159 Betsson 5/10

                                                I also like player props:
                                                Kovalchuk, Radulov, Malkin, Ovechkin all over 1.5 points in the match. Should be top 2 lines, also playing powerplay for Russians. As I expect more than 5 goals scored by Russians, I think good chances are for these players to be involved into 2 goals or more.

                                                Kovalchuk over 1.5 points @ +145 Betsson 0.5/10
                                                Radulov over 1.5 points @ +165 Betsson 0.5/10
                                                Malkin over 1.5 points @ +160 Betsson 0.5/10
                                                Ovechkin over 1.5 points @ +140 Betsson 0.5/10
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                                                • ZdenoK
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-25-13
                                                  • 1741

                                                  #444
                                                  12.2.2014 - Sochi Olympics
                                                  Sweden reg. @ -106 TonyBet 2/10
                                                  Zetterberg to score @ +250 Betsson 0.5/10

                                                  Funny odds, most of other bookies have this line much lower. TonyBet is Estonian bookie, I rarely use it. Deposited some money in preseason because they were offering hockey matches which other bookies didn't. I think Sweden has more depth in their team than Czechs who have weak defense. Pavelec won't even be at the match so that's another funny decision by their coach. Nice odds for Zetterberg to score. According to practice lines and projections he will play as a center in 1st line along Steen and Landeskog. Pretty fearful line which should create many good chances. He is a goalgetter so I think it's worth of trying for small stakes.
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                                                  • CatHawk
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 11-23-13
                                                    • 323

                                                    #445
                                                    Nice. GL man!
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                                                    • ZdenoK
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-25-13
                                                      • 1741

                                                      #446
                                                      Zetterberg 3-0
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                                                      • bringdownthehous
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-14-10
                                                        • 622

                                                        #447
                                                        congrats on zetty...wish I had a prop on that but took swedes -1.5 and ml...hope they keep it up
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                                                        • bringdownthehous
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-14-10
                                                          • 622

                                                          #448
                                                          wow beatdown city for the swedes 4-0
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                                                          • ZdenoK
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-25-13
                                                            • 1741

                                                            #449
                                                            13.2.2014 - Sochi Olympics
                                                            Canada/Norway over 7 @ +106 MarathonBet 5/10
                                                            Crosby to score @ -112 Betsson 2/10
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                                                            • Dan Kelly
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-19-11
                                                              • 1332

                                                              #450
                                                              Z - What do you think of this hedged bet =>

                                                              BOL

                                                              Feb 13
                                                              NHL [12] CANADA -4½EV
                                                              80.00 USD / 80.00 USD

                                                              Feb 13
                                                              NHL [12] CANADA u6½+125
                                                              60.00 USD / 75.00 USD
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                                                              • ZdenoK
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-25-13
                                                                • 1741

                                                                #451
                                                                Originally posted by Dan Kelly
                                                                Z - What do you think of this hedged bet =>

                                                                BOL

                                                                Feb 13
                                                                NHL [12] CANADA -4½EV
                                                                80.00 USD / 80.00 USD

                                                                Feb 13
                                                                NHL [12] CANADA u6½+125
                                                                60.00 USD / 75.00 USD
                                                                Handicap should cover but I'm not sure about Canada under 6.5. If they open up their offense, I can see them score 8.
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                                                                • ZdenoK
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-25-13
                                                                  • 1741

                                                                  #452
                                                                  Live: Sweden reg. @ -179 MarathonBet 3/10

                                                                  In 1st period Swiss are more dangerous, they started extremely aggresively, created some nice chances and only because of Lundqvist the score remains 0. On the other side Swedes with a few counterattacks and nice show of individual skills. So far both goalies are solid so it remains 0-0. If you'd give me these odds prior to the match, I'd take them with no secondguessing. I think by the end of the match the quality of Swedes and Lundqvist will prevail. Perhaps Switzerland can get them to OT but if they didn't score in the 1st period, I think it will be even harder later on. Yesterday against Latvia they had same inefficiency issues and a hot goalie on the opposite side.
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                                                                  • ZdenoK
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-25-13
                                                                    • 1741

                                                                    #453
                                                                    14.2.2014 - Sochi Olympics
                                                                    Finland -2.5 @ -105 MarathonBet 3/10
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                                                                    • ZdenoK
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-25-13
                                                                      • 1741

                                                                      #454
                                                                      Offtopic: Who is this hot looking girl SBR Natalie and why does she want me to follow her SBR Twitter account? How does she know I have a Twitter account? I'm not using it but I have an account!?
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                                                                      • ZdenoK
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-25-13
                                                                        • 1741

                                                                        #455
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