Buying/selling points

[maxkim12]

Most sports books give you this option for basketball and football. Has there been any research on how much each point is really worth vs how much they cost?

[a4u2fear]

Yes I think SBR has calculators for assistance but I'm on mobile and can't find the links

[LT Profits]

http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-tools/

[maxkim12]

thanks guys. this is exactly what I wanted

[HockeyimmortaL]

buying a point and the hook usually runs standard -130 to -140

[statnerds]

selling points much more profitable, for me at least.

[ace888]

buying points is not logical selling might be

[Spedizzo]

buying half a point at 6.5 isnt logical?

[Spedizzo]

id rather take a touchdown at -125 than 6.5 at -105 or whatever

only time ill buy points

[ace888]

buying half a point at 6.5 isnt logical?

sorry i was trying to speak about basketball

[Djohns04]

sorry i was trying to speak about basketball

definitely never buy points in basketball

[Sawyer]

Yeah, Never buy points in basketball. Most bettors buy points in order to increase their chance but it cost them something very valuable; sacrificing the odds.

[LT Profits]

id rather take a touchdown at -125 than 6.5 at -105 or whatever

only time ill buy points

3 is more important than 7

[BigdaddyQH]

Never buy points, period. It is a loser. Just do the math.

[LT Profits]

Never buy points, period. It is a loser. Just do the math.

There are still spots where buying off the 3 is good. Remember, books charge the same to buy off 3 regardless of the game total, but buying off 3 with low totals can be more valuable than the usual 25-cent charge.

[Sawyer]

Never buy points, period. It is a loser. Just do the math.

I agree with you completely. The only exception I can think..Some books (in the past) were unaware of the dramatical difference in key numbers such as 3 and 7 in NFL. These were great EV+ bets but in today's age, these kinda books no longer exists..as I know. Even if they exist, must be very rare..and probably local.

In basket, buying points is a waste of money.

[KVB]

...Some books (in the past) were unaware of the dramatical difference in key numbers such as 3 and 7 in NFL. These were great EV+ bets but in today's age, these kinda books no longer exists...

Ah, the good ole days of early internet gambling...at least when those shops would pay you.

[Sawyer]

I wish I had started betting in 80's..
I read about bookies let you parlay Ohio State -42 and Over 45 in the past. Unbelieveable..

[KVB]

The Computer Boys of the '80 sure tightened up all those markets and revealed all kinds of holes, right there in Vegas. At the time they were innovative with the processing of information, but still had to draw from the earlier generation of pros. Those early guys had a lot of wisdom to offer.

[Briefcase]

I've avoided it since most books started charging more than 10 cents on and off 7 in football. I still buy with a couple locals though because they only charge -120.

[Sawyer]

Ah, the good ole days of early internet gambling...at least when those shops would pay you.

The Good Ole Days of Early Internet Gambling. I liked it! Let's open a thread about it. Would be funny to listen old gambling stories. I started betting in 2003, missed 90's. I'm curious about how online betting was in 90's..

I'm sure you will laugh out loud when I tell you I was betting in a book who opens same odds for odd/even baseball, lol. And yes, overtime was included! They were opening -112 for odd/even. Most books got -162, -165 today.

[Miz]

depends on edge, which is a composite of the total and to what degree you believe your forecast of the side. 3 is the best number as said above

all things even... given the choice you should actually prefer to lay it and buy points. it allows bigger growth per kelly. growth is the whole point anyway.

[raiders72001]

NFL if you can buy for 10 cents off/on 7 and 20 cents off/on 3 then do it. Tough to find but still some left.

[raiders72001]

In the NBA there are subsets where buying 3 and 4 half points is worth it.

[LT Profits]

NFL if you can buy for 10 cents off/on 7 and 20 cents off/on 3 then do it. Tough to find but still some left.

Yes exactly, but unfortunately harder to find.

[greenhippo]

Although I have zero stats or numbers to back this up I'd think selling 1-2 points every football game would be profitable longterm. I've placed hundreds and hundreds of bets, I've pushed or won by the hook about 6-7 times, almost never happens in my experience.

[newguy]

Only bet with a local - just this year he finally changed buying onto 7 to -110 from -130. Already saved me in Packers game last week. That said - I would love to find a place to allow me to swing all my bets from -110 to +120 or +130 by selling a couple of points on all my games. Absolutely would be + ev for me.

[LT Profits]

Only bet with a local - just this year he finally changed buying onto 7 to -110 from -130. Already saved me in Packers game last week. That said - I would love to find a place to allow me to swing all my bets from -110 to +120 or +130 by selling a couple of points on all my games. Absolutely would be + ev for me.

5 Dimes. Heritage too, but you probably can't get in.

[odog11]

There are still spots where buying off the 3 is good. Remember, books charge the same to buy off 3 regardless of the game total, but buying off 3 with low totals can be more valuable than the usual 25-cent charge.

Exactly, buying or selling points(like all betting factors) depends on the game. Game you really expect to be tight might be worth buying a 1/2 point.

[Cookie Monster]

I find sometimes strange the fixation with the "spread number". It is an absolutely arbitrary number, its only "special" feature is that it is close to the median of possible outcomes. When you are used to Pinnacle Asian view, the concept of price to probability gets more clear, instead of "buying points". It is more of a swift slope where you pick your spot, instead on "buy a point off the big bad spread". What is better: Miami -4 -106, or -3.5 -111, or -4.5 +102, or -5 +106? Of course, Pinny offering points for a fair price is not standard, but gives good perspective.

IMO, the only non arbitrary number in a game is the 0, aka "The moneyline". But most people hates "paying a big juice" on faves, or "having little chance " on dogs. So, the spread is for them.

[smoke a bowl]

id rather take a touchdown at -125 than 6.5 at -105 or whatever

only time ill buy points

You will make more or lose less money betting the 6.5 -105 vs +7 -125. Not even close. The

[smoke a bowl]

Never buy points, period. It is a loser. Just do the math.

False

[smoke a bowl]

buying points is not logical selling might be

False.

[smoke a bowl]

Yeah, Never buy points in basketball. Most bettors buy points in order to increase their chance but it cost them something very valuable; sacrificing the odds.

False.

[jtoler]

I find sometimes strange the fixation with the "spread number". It is an absolutely arbitrary number, its only "special" feature is that it is close to the median of possible outcomes. When you are used to Pinnacle Asian view, the concept of price to probability gets more clear, instead of "buying points". It is more of a swift slope where you pick your spot, instead on "buy a point off the big bad spread". What is better: Miami -4 -106, or -3.5 -111, or -4.5 +102, or -5 +106? Of course, Pinny offering points for a fair price is not standard, but gives good perspective.

IMO, the only non arbitrary number in a game is the 0, aka "The moneyline". But most people hates "paying a big juice" on faves, or "having little chance " on dogs. So, the spread is for them.

Not sure why you think the spread number is arbitrary.