Would you still jump on Penn St at -16.5 Pags?
Pags' Plays 9/6
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tobycsh39SBR High Roller
- 06-04-08
- 114
#36"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Joe Theismann
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pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#3708/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019605] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 05:00 PM CFB [333] MIAMI FLORIDA +23-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019606] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 12:30 PM CFB [340] PENN STATE -13-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019607] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 09:00 AM CFB [364] TEMPLE +7-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:07 PM [Ticket #: 44019756] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 01:30 PM CFB [316] EAST CAROLINA +10-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:12 PM [Ticket #: 44019879] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 09:00 AM CFB [313] GEORGIA TECH +7½-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:39 PM [Ticket #: 44020803] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 07:00 PM CFB [373] STANFORD +14½-110
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pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#38any questions?...Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#39richkas,
you might start to see that trying to break down a sharp guy like myself will only make you look more like an idiot that you already are...eventually, you will probably give up and secretly start playing my plays......
helmut,
we will have to agree to disagree...if you only knew how much time I spend Saturday evenings and Sunday afternoons preparing for the following week's games you would better understand why I do what I do...you're a good dude and allowed to your opinion...
CBBPhenom,
glad that you agree with the Penn St. and Temple plays...thanks for stopping by...GL to you this week...
hawk 5,
you don't have to explain yourself to any of these guys...most of them will never be half as sharp as you are...glad we see the Penn St. game the same way...
soonerbs,
I always appreciate your insight...glad that we will be on a couple together this week...hope that the Miami FL play is more competitive than when we were up against eachother last week...BOL pal...
LT profits,
you are correct...bookmaker's improved software makes it more efficient to get plays in (especially since you don't have to type your password in to confirm as you did before)...
perfect trader,
good stuff indeed...
martinblank,
thank you sir...you are starting to grow on me between your knowledge of college football and the industry...
dazzez,
I appreciate your feedback...understand that I put a lot of time into getting ready for opening lines, and I have continually suggested to people to get a bookmaker account for this same reason...also understand that I post my plays minutes within when I make them...
looking back at my posted plays from last year, out of all of the games I posted, had you bet them Sunday evening (vs. Sunday afternoon when I post them) AND payed -110 for every bet, one still would have come out ahead almost 30 units...do you think you would be complaining at that point?
I challenge you to find a handicapper (tout or no tout) that has a more consistent track record of posting winning plays...you will have a tough time doing so...call it cocky, but it's the truth...
toby.
I would play Penn St. up to -17...GL to you...Comment -
White_TigerSBR Sharp
- 08-29-07
- 465
#40GL This week Pags.
WT.Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#41white tiger,
thank you very much...GL to you as well...Comment -
LVHerbieSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-15-05
- 6344
#42Pag,
Is there a set time/day you plan to post your writeups? I missed them last week for some reason and was just curious when (approximately) you plan to post them...Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#43LVHerbie,
I post my write-ups Thursday evenings (unless I have a game that I'm on that day and in that case I post my write-up on Wednesday evening)...GL to you this week...Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#44added Nevada +10.5...Comment -
PontiffSBR Rookie
- 09-02-08
- 13
#46A Little Help Please
Pags,
I want to start out by expressing my appreciation for posting your plays. Any numbskull can come on here and state they have better records over a long run, but it is quite different when they actually put up their picks as you do. I applaud your dedication to the sport and your perserverance over the mindless souls who try to discourage you.
As a noobie to your following, I have a couple of questions I was hoping you would answer so I can take full advantage of your progostications. First, what time do you post your plays? Second, what site gives the earliest lines so I may take fullest advantage of this promptness? Lastly, what kind of girl should I spend my winnings on,,,redhead, blonde, or brunette?
Thanks,
PontiffComment -
SforzSBR MVP
- 08-07-08
- 2221
#47-==Pags=//><//=Pontiff=-
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CBBPhenomSBR MVP
- 03-21-08
- 1282
#50I'm interested in seeing the write up on the Miami/Florida game. I see Florida winning it all, they look good. I can't see this one staying close, but I guess that's why they play the game. Even at 23 I see a severe beating.Comment -
RichkasSBR Posting Legend
- 02-03-08
- 19396
#5108/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019605] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 05:00 PM CFB [333] MIAMI FLORIDA +23-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019606] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 12:30 PM CFB [340] PENN STATE -13-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019607] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 09:00 AM CFB [364] TEMPLE +7-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:07 PM [Ticket #: 44019756] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 01:30 PM CFB [316] EAST CAROLINA +10-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:12 PM [Ticket #: 44019879] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 09:00 AM CFB [313] GEORGIA TECH +7½-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:39 PM [Ticket #: 44020803] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 07:00 PM CFB [373] STANFORD +14½-110
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DanSBR Sharp
- 09-13-07
- 278
#52What I find problematic about pags' picks (and it's no disrespect intended to pags personally) is that not only is he posting these non widely available opening numbers but he's also somehow managing to find a bookie to take them all at +100.
I don't doubt that pags is able to make money betting this way, and more power to him. But a person attempting to tail his picks, having to consistently bet not only at a line 1+ points worse than pags, but also at -110 (versus pags' +100) should exercise caution.08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019605] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 05:00 PM CFB [333] MIAMI FLORIDA +23-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019606] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 12:30 PM CFB [340] PENN STATE -13-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:03 PM [Ticket #: 44019607] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 09:00 AM CFB [364] TEMPLE +7-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:07 PM [Ticket #: 44019756] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 01:30 PM CFB [316] EAST CAROLINA +10-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:12 PM [Ticket #: 44019879] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 09:00 AM CFB [313] GEORGIA TECH +7½-110
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08/31/2008 by ONLINE at 03:39 PM [Ticket #: 44020803] STRAIGHT BET
09/06/2008 @ 07:00 PM CFB [373] STANFORD +14½-110
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Mr HandicapableSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-23-07
- 6067
#54Pags,
Give you full credit sir for La Tech! I also LOVE Temple +7 this week! Teams returning 20+ starters (plus QB) have been great to me over the years! Going to see another one (Ball State) beat my IU Hoosiers here in a couple of weeks. I have to admit I'm not sure why you want to go against teams as explosive as Missouri or Texas Tech that can hang 50 on almost anyone? If I had to win a fistfight...I wouldn't stop at a gym? Nevada has a talented QB so we'll see who prevails in the end. GL and thanks for all your hard work!Comment -
Alry45SBR High Roller
- 01-10-08
- 205
#55Pags, What are your thoughts on Ole Miss +8? I see alot of value in this line. Thanks for posting your picks again!Comment -
emmittruddSBR Rookie
- 08-25-08
- 11
#56Pags
As always thanks for the picks. Was just wondering when you spoke in a reply earlier about preparing for the next weeks games if you mean more looking at numbers/match ups or if you mean watching games/highlights? I seem to have a better ability to get a grasp on a team (as I would think most folks do) when actually watching the. I was just wondering if you record a lot of games and watch them later or if the crux of your preparation is on paper.
Thanks and Good luck bro!Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#57jimmysaint,
I understand your resevations with Nevada here...it was a hard game for me to click the submit button, but ultimately I had to follow my gut...Thursday's write-up will give my full analysis...GL bud...
pontiff,
thanks for your post...I appreciate you recognizing my track record and hard work...
bookmaker.com is the first book to put out lines...they do this at approximately 3:00 PM PST on the Sundays before the game...
regarding women, I'm a fan of all three types as long as you don't spend more than $40 on them on a date...I'm a big believer of Leykis 101...I have a system to dating much like I do to handicapping...hasn't let me down thus far!...GL this week pal...
soonerbs,
it does make me feel a whole lot better that Nevada interests you as well...thanks man...
CBBpheonom,
I guess that's why they play the games right?...you may be right in the Florida may cover this number but Miami has athletes and I expect a terrific effort from them on Saturday...
richkas,
I can't help but imagine that you probably look exactly like your avatar...
mr. handicappable,
La. Tech really did play their asses off, thanks for recognizaing that...thanks also for your thoughts...we will have to see how they end up this week...GL to you this week...
alry,
I listened to the entire Ole Miss game last week and they do seem improved...I just have a tough time betting against Wake Forest and Jim Grobe, especially since they started covering as favorites towards the end of last year...
emmitt,
I used to be strictly a fundamental handicapper, but in the last three or four years have gotten a lot better at situational handicapping...the thing I'm now trying to improve on is the technical handicapping aspect, with past trends, history, etc...I read every box score from the past week's game on Sunday mornings before the lines come out, so in addition to watching film I do pay close attention to statistics...I think one thing Phil Steele does a good job of is looking at yardage gained by teams...so to answer your question, it's a variety of factors that lead me to making my picks...Comment -
etothepSBR MVP
- 09-14-07
- 1299
#58
Haven't posted on here in awhile, still licking my wounds from a pair of rough NFL games last year, but was glad to see a Leykis fan on here.
GL on your picks this weekend Pags!Comment -
bosterosoySBR High Roller
- 09-02-08
- 156
#59Richkas is a fumbling idiot
How about instead of hating on a seasoned and well liked member, you contribute with some of your moves?
Pags, love your picks.Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#60etothep,
dude, I've been there...I remember one time when I was 13 putting 97 dollars on the Broncos ML vs. the raiders on MNF (was a lot of money to me back then)...I stupidly bet a fav on the moneyline and they lost...I was sick for three weeks...I hope that you have a better season this year...
good to hear that you are a leykis fan as well...that guy is just so awesome...some of the best girls I've ever been with have been non-American girls...stay stong in the tenants of Leykis 101 and have the girls out of your bed by Lettermen!...
boster,
good to hear that you agree with my picks this week...sorry that you have to see so many idiots who have no ideas how to cap a game be negative, but it's how things go over here at SBR sometimes...Comment -
taurusSBR High Roller
- 08-11-05
- 206
#61What I find problematic about pags' picks (and it's no disrespect intended to pags personally) is that not only is he posting these non widely available opening numbers but he's also somehow managing to find a bookie to take them all at +100.
I don't doubt that pags is able to make money betting this way, and more power to him. But a person attempting to tail his picks, having to consistently bet not only at a line 1+ points worse than pags, but also at -110 (versus pags' +100) should exercise caution.
If it's more than 52.5%, that makes you a winner.
But I'll quickly add that you can do a lot better than -110.
My plays are all at -105 or better. Do you want to challenge that? Or would you prefer to check out Matchbook, 5Dimes, and betjamaica. If you are at a -110 book, you need to re-evaluate your modus operandi.
pags- with Fresno's win I found up 12-8. Not a bad start.
Thanks for the Cal and La Tech games. Never ever would have done them by myself. A couple of your picks in this thread have me scratching my head, but by kick-off I suspect the itch will go away. GL, as always.
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DrLuckSBR Hustler
- 09-06-07
- 64
#62Like the card pags, but having hard time on Miami...Don't know if the Freshman Qb will be able to keep up once Florida starts putting up points...Believe Meyer will have his defense in attack mode against an inexperienced QB. I like his mobility, but his decision making will be crucial imo(turnovers will be a killer)...If they can establish the run with some play action mixed in I like there chances if not could be long day. Just the way I see the game being played out. As always best of luck... Don't let the haters get to ya. You're to good for that, plus you have a lot of support from better people.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
- 90963
#63I really have no opinion on any of Pags' sides, but I do like Temple UNDER 39.5.
As for the other games mentioned in the thread, I actually do like Mississippi +8 quite a bit.Comment -
masrSBR MVP
- 10-20-07
- 4773
#64Hey pags...
Like some of your plays..looks like you got me looking at the Temple and Georgia Tech Bandwagons!!
GL this weekComment -
accuscoresucksSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-03-07
- 7160
#65gl this week pagsComment -
White_TigerSBR Sharp
- 08-29-07
- 465
#66what the **** is your problem???? If you don't like pags picks then go to another thread. Why keep question Pags? he just post his picks here for free, just leave him alone so he can concentrate on his capping.Comment -
tobycsh39SBR High Roller
- 06-04-08
- 114
#67Hey, I have been betting for around 3 years and am trying to learn more. My first year was a mess, and last year I ended only around $70.00 up, pretty sad. This year I want to change all of that and do my homework. I am already up $220 after the first week but want to keep the streak going. I like it here at SBR but what are some other websites, forums, or other places I can go to check out write ups or free picks from experts that aren't scams. I like checking out all the information here and I appreciate pags and all the others for posting their picks every week with write ups. But just to learn more week in and week out, is there any other places to check out. All opinions are appreciated. Also what is some other advice on betting. Sorry to post this on your thread pags but it gets alot of hits and I figured you could throw in your two cents on some recommendations and advice. Thanks"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Joe Theismann
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pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#68taurus,
congrats on a good start to the year...yeah, my picks usually start to look better as the week goes on...I'd rather have people questioning them on Tuesday afternoon than on Saturday evening, if you know what I'm saying...always appreciate your support and insight...GL bud...
drluck,
that's a legitimate concern in the Miami game...it will be very important for Miami to establish the running game early to take the pressure off him...will have more insight for you later this week...thanks also for the support my friend...
masr,
good to hear that we will be on those two together...BOL to you this week...
acc,
GL to you as well this week...
white tiger,
thanks for having my back...much appreciated...Comment -
regularguySBR Wise Guy
- 09-12-07
- 781
#69Hey pags. Thanks for the picks, as always.
I'm interested in the Nevada call. I have thought some about that one. I'm concerned about Nevada's secondary. They are unproven, at best. They could turn out to be adequate; they could turn out to be terrible. The defensive line has shown some spunk, though, I know. But does Nevada have the guns to put some stops on that Texas Tech passing attack? I know, you'll get to it in your writeup. I just thought I'd throw out the problem that has me wringing my hands on this one.
I'll be pulling for Nevada, regardless of whether or not I bet it.
Best of luck to you this week.Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#70toby,
I'm glad to hear that you had success in week one...it appears like you have the potential to become a good young handicapper...doing your homework is definitely a key...thanks for recognizing my hard work, I appreciate that...other forums I would recommend that I frequent are: covers, **************, therx, eog and *************...and no problem about posting in my thread, thanks for the apology though...Comment
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