Bellator 73

**Crassus** · 08-21-12, 11:25 AM

Tough card to call, any plays Punisher?

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-21-12, 11:28 AM

Damn money came in on that nazi looking dude

**Vaughany** · 08-21-12, 11:34 AM

More interested in the Bellator 74 card

**PunisherIND** · 08-21-12, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Crassus

Tough card to call, any plays Punisher?

it is tough. travis view is the rightful favorite, dude is going to have massive size advantage. but vegh will be the faster of the two with crisper striking. clearly the fight hinges on whether view will get the takedown. at +205 im going to make a small play on vegh. if he can stuff a few takedowns he should be able to hurt view in the stand up. maybe get a rear naked or tko stoppage.

**PunisherIND** · 08-21-12, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

More interested in the Bellator 74 card

really? any fights in particular?

**PunisherIND** · 08-21-12, 11:55 AM

interested in peoples thoughts on noguiera vs galvonk.

**Jerseychi** · 08-21-12, 12:00 PM

Nogueria has been more impressive than Galvo.

**PunisherIND** · 08-21-12, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Damn money came in on that nazi looking dude

damn it really did! view was down to -165.

**Crassus** · 08-21-12, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

it is tough. travis view is the rightful favorite, dude is going to have massive size advantage. but vegh will be the faster of the two with crisper striking. clearly the fight hinges on whether view will get the takedown. at +205 im going to make a small play on vegh. if he can stuff a few takedowns he should be able to hurt view in the stand up. maybe get a rear naked or tko stoppage.

Yeah, Wiuff never really displayed a great chin or striking power. For a huge dude he doesn't really punch well. Vegh could tag him...hmm

at -165 though Wiuff aint a bad deal. I'll prolly grab him for 2U or something. Missed my chance at +200 for Vegh.

I'd play Nogueira over Galvao, Nogueira looked awesome in his last fight.

**PunisherIND** · 08-21-12, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

Yeah, Wiuff never really displayed a great chin or striking power. For a huge dude he doesn't really punch well. Vegh could tag him...hmm

at -165 though Wiuff aint a bad deal. I'll prolly grab him for 2U or something. Missed my chance at +200 for Vegh.

I'd play Nogueira over Galvao, Nogueira looked awesome in his last fight.

agree with you here. i would have played wiuff at -165.

**Vaughany** · 08-21-12, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

really? any fights in particular?

KOreshkov vs Jordan Smith
Lyman Good vs Wallhead
Taleb vs Zaromskis

**poopoo333** · 08-21-12, 03:28 PM

Wiuff will win unless he ends up getting tagged and KTFO. I was at Bellator 72 and it was ridiculous on how big Wiuff was in person. To compare both Wiuff and Vegh, Wiuff looked like he was a good sized heavyweight, and Vegh was a soft and sort of chubby 205er who could easily make 185. I see Wiuff getting Vegh to the ground and just holding him there like he did to Carpenter

**PunisherIND** · 08-21-12, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

KOreshkov vs Jordan Smith
Lyman Good vs Wallhead
Taleb vs Zaromskis

Cool man. Look forward to your thoughts. I'm clueless on that card except for good vs wallhead.

**Vitooch** · 08-21-12, 06:02 PM

I think Galvao as a dog is worth a play. I actually think he should be slightly favored. Nogueira has surprised me this tournament but Galvao has been very competitive in every Bellator fight he's competed in since his fight with Warren. For me, getting him at plus odds in whatwill most likely be a very close fight (split decision?) is +EV.

**sirchadwick1** · 08-21-12, 07:20 PM

If the Galvao/Noguiera fight goes to a decision (likely), Nog is taking it. He is much quicker on his feet and his cardio has looked better. -135 is very fair.

**sideloaded** · 08-21-12, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by poopoo333

Wiuff will win unless he ends up getting tagged and KTFO. I was at Bellator 72 and it was ridiculous on how big Wiuff was in person. To compare both Wiuff and Vegh, Wiuff looked like he was a good sized heavyweight, and Vegh was a soft and sort of chubby 205er who could easily make 185. I see Wiuff getting Vegh to the ground and just holding him there like he did to Carpenter

wuiff cut like 60 lbs?

**Vitooch** · 08-21-12, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

If the Galvao/Noguiera fight goes to a decision (likely), Nog is taking it. He is much quicker on his feet and his cardio has looked better. -135 is very fair.

This fight and line kind of reminds me of Bendo/Edgar II. Bendo and Noguiera have both looked great of late and Edgar/Galvao always keep fights ultra competitive and are very consistent. Maybe not the greatest comparison.

**Crassus** · 08-21-12, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

wuiff cut like 60 lbs?

He starts camp at around 270-280 I've heard.

**poopoo333** · 08-21-12, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

wuiff cut like 60 lbs?

Naw, I don't get how he weighs any less than 240-250 though. He is solid, minimal bodyfat, tall, and ******* huge in real life.

**gabe** · 08-22-12, 12:52 AM

If he can drop 75lbs to make 205, he should just go all the way for 145 and fight Pitbull

**Vitooch** · 08-22-12, 11:52 AM

Dolce could make that happen

**gabe** · 08-22-12, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

Dolce could make that happen

he'll feed him to the scale.

**PunisherIND** · 08-22-12, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

If the Galvao/Noguiera fight goes to a decision (likely), Nog is taking it. He is much quicker on his feet and his cardio has looked better. -135 is very fair.

noguiera is now -210, galvonk +160

**Crassus** · 08-22-12, 02:09 PM

at +160 I gotta grab Galvao

**sirchadwick1** · 08-22-12, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

noguiera is now -210, galvonk +160

Glad I got him early... I just don't think Galvao is going to be fast enough for him.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 08-22-12, 06:23 PM

damn nog just opened at -200 on my book... love him over galvao, would have slammed the -135 opener if I had the chance

**Grabaka** · 08-23-12, 03:32 AM

260 on Martinez @ -260
120 on Vegh @ +162
88.5 on Vegh vs Wiuff O2.5 @ -177

**gabe** · 08-23-12, 04:02 AM

i like martinez, but line is too juicy

**illmatick** · 08-23-12, 04:45 AM

Already locked in a play on Attila Vegh, might add more after the weigh-ins.

still considering a smaller parlay on Ryan/Nogueira as well.

**illmatick** · 08-23-12, 05:22 AM

If Van Buren keeps dropping I may bite. I'd jump on -120 possibly.

**Vaughany** · 08-23-12, 06:01 AM

yeah me too. Van Buren has been at Alliance since July training with all those beasts there...Stephens, Cruz, Chandler, Davis, Pearson, Warburton, De Fries, Beltran, etc... Apparently from what he says and from tweets I've read he's a step above most guys in striking department.

**Vaughany** · 08-23-12, 06:11 AM

Van Buren's fight at Bellator 57 can be seen here (at 1:01)...

**Vaughany** · 08-23-12, 06:29 AM

A Mike Mucitelli kickboxing match (looks like 2 drunkards pulled out of the stands)...

**Vaughany** · 08-23-12, 06:32 AM