I like Danny garcia tonight (boxing)

**Smoke** · 07-14-12, 07:32 PM

Thanks Lou!

Great value on Garcia

**AraiWa** · 07-14-12, 08:15 PM

Honestly, I don't see the value. Khan is too fast and strong, too experienced in big time boxing, and has something to prove this fight. Although Garcia is undefeated, I just don't think he'll match up in the later rounds. Khan will break him down and win a decision or score a late round TKO.

**aortega521** · 07-14-12, 08:48 PM

The only reason why I'm on Khan is this is his second chance... He couldn't get things done against Peterson (granted there's a HIGH possibility he was on drugs). He will take NO chances with Garcia. He is more talented and with that, he will make sure he puts him out on his back. Should khan lose his credibility as a fighter is shot for a fighter. when you back him into a corner like khan is tonight he will come out looking to knock Garcia head off. Be ready for a good fight and King Khan to maintain his thrown!!!

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-14-12, 08:49 PM

Lou just trying to drum up action for Garcia on the sbr book. He has no chance. I popped Khan for 500 pts.

**King Mayan** · 07-14-12, 08:51 PM

Khan wins.

**onlooker** · 07-14-12, 09:51 PM

Here Lou. Hammer Grits.

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**JuicedUp** · 07-14-12, 10:39 PM

**hougigo** · 07-14-12, 10:40 PM

OHHHHHHHH, I knew I should have went with my instincts. I didn't want to take the line anymore and took the over/under.... I lost but that was some good stuff right there!

**Jesus Christ** · 07-14-12, 10:42 PM

**onlooker** · 07-14-12, 10:42 PM

**SBR Lou** · 07-14-12, 10:43 PM

Khan pressed too hard and left himself open. He didn't want to leave it in the hands of the judges but could have easily outboxed Danny had he actually used some defense and won a "boring" fight.

**MC PICKS** · 07-14-12, 10:44 PM

Philly fighters are no joke.

**ApricotSinner32** · 07-14-12, 10:44 PM

Alex Ariza is laughing right now. Amir khan can't win without ariza. This shows ariza is more important to have than roach and even pacquiao knows that.

**Vaughany** · 07-14-12, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Lou just trying to drum up action for Garcia on the sbr book. He has no chance. I popped Khan for 500 pts.

hahaha

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-14-12, 10:48 PM

this is the end of Roach too.

Roach

**AraiWa** · 07-14-12, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by AraiWa

Honestly, I don't see the value. Khan is too fast and strong, too experienced in big time boxing, and has something to prove this fight. Although Garcia is undefeated, I just don't think he'll match up in the later rounds. Khan will break him down and win a decision or score a late round TKO.

Well I stand corrected. Congrats.

Khan fought like an idiot though, he didn't use his boxing skills, didn't continually pop the jab and use foot movement. He's not the brightest of fighters but he does have balls. Also, he might have thought about taking a knee before that last knockdown. The stupid chinny Paki trying to fight with bravado means I lost money this week instead of winning a little. But all respect to Garcia for taking advantage of the opportunity and I'll give respect to Khan for trying to fight on even though he was out on his feet. But make no mistake, Khan is a moron.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-14-12, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

this is the end of Roach too.

Roach

**hougigo** · 07-14-12, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by SBR Lou

Khan pressed too hard and left himself open. He didn't want to leave it in the hands of the judges but could have easily outboxed Danny had he actually used some defense and won a "boring" fight.

Khan had Mayweather on his mind. Before the fight, he was told he could get the fight if he won by KO.... he pressed too hard and neglected Danny's timing... which was one of his strongest points. I can't believe they didn't even go over that in camp..... this is hilarious.

**spurginobili** · 07-14-12, 10:56 PM

Nice call Lou.....

**SlickFazzer** · 07-14-12, 11:00 PM

Nice call Lou. You know your boxing well!

**SBR Lou** · 07-14-12, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by hougigo

Khan had Mayweather on his mind. Before the fight, he was told he could get the fight if he won by KO.... he pressed too hard and neglected Danny's timing... which was one of his strongest points. I can't believe they didn't even go over that in camp..... this is hilarious.

His chin isn't good enough to get away with it despite his blinding quickness. I don't know who deserves to shoulder the most blame, but if that's how Roach drew up the game-plan then shame on him. Where was the jab? Even so, Garcia looked like a deer in headlights before flooring Khan so hats off to him for being patient.

**hougigo** · 07-14-12, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by AraiWa

Well I stand corrected. Congrats.

Khan fought like an idiot though, he didn't use his boxing skills, didn't continually pop the jab and use foot movement. He's not the brightest of fighters but he does have balls. Also, he might have thought about taking a knee before that last knockdown. The stupid chinny Paki trying to fight with bravado means I lost money this week instead of winning a little. But all respect to Garcia for taking advantage of the opportunity and I'll give respect to Khan for trying to fight on even though he was out on his feet. But make no mistake, Khan is a moron.

I KNOW!
I got really worried after he made comments about Mayweather again and was talking about a KO.
A boxer should never think about a KO. The only kind of boxer who should think about that is one with no skills and relies only on power IMO. If you box, you'll get it eventually. If not, take the win. Going for the KO is reckless and can get you in how water.
And I said it earlier in another thread, but Khan only knows one way to fight. Flurry in and out and reset.
I thought he'd get back on his bike to survive, but he wanted to belt it out even though he knows he doesn't have the best chin. He should've repeated the Peterson fight to survive and pushed him off and run.

**AraiWa** · 07-14-12, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by SBR Lou

His chin isn't good enough to get away with it despite his blinding quickness. I don't know who deserves to shoulder the most blame, but if that's how Roach drew up the game-plan then shame on him. Where was the jab? Even so, Garcia looked like a deer in headlights before flooring Khan so hats off to him for being patient.

The game plan was to use his boxing skills and footwork to pile up the points and get a decision win or late round stoppage. Khan lacks the discipline needed to stay at a world class level and he paid for it again. You can't blame Roach for Khan letting Garcia tee off on him with the counter shots. If he slid back and to the side after throwing his combinations he might not have got caught so flush. Khan = good offensively, poor = defensively and mentally.

**hougigo** · 07-14-12, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by SBR Lou

His chin isn't good enough to get away with it despite his blinding quickness. I don't know who deserves to shoulder the most blame, but if that's how Roach drew up the game-plan then shame on him. Where was the jab? Even so, Garcia looked like a deer in headlights before flooring Khan so hats off to him for being patient.

His chin has always been a huge problem, but i actually thought he could take a punch better after Maidana..... then again Maidana is a plodder.
Garcia... his countering is what got Khan, and since that's all he had, there really wasn't much Khan could do.
I've said this before... Khan only fights one way. Take that away and you'll either KO him or blow him out.

**iQon** · 07-14-12, 11:12 PM

Amir hits a brick wall, AGAIN!

He couldn't wait to do it against Floyd?

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-14-12, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by AraiWa

The game plan was to use his boxing skills and footwork to pile up the points and get a decision win or late round stoppage. Khan lacks the discipline needed to stay at a world class level and he paid for it again. You can't blame Roach for Khan letting Garcia tee off on him with the counter shots. If he slid back and to the side after throwing his combinations he might not have got caught so flush. Khan = good offensively, poor = defensively and mentally.

But it seems that it's a recurring thing with Roach's fighters. They can't ALL be defensively and mentally poor if Roach wasn't to blame. If Roach takes a prospect with offensive talent that is handed to him and he makes that fighter's offense slightly better he is some kind of genius. But if the fighter lacks defense it's their fault and not the trainer who they sent them to?

Khan is basically the same fighter as he was when he was handed to Roach years ago.

**hougigo** · 07-14-12, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

But it seems that it's a recurring thing with Roach's fighters. They can't ALL be defensively and mentally poor if Roach wasn't to blame. If Roach takes a prospect with offensive talent that is handed to him and he makes that fighter's offense slightly better he is some kind of genius. But if the fighter lacks defense it's their fault and not the trainer who they sent them to?

Khan is basically the same fighter as he was when he was handed to Roach years ago.

A lot of his fighters lack defense.
Khan, JCC Jr, Manny, Senchenko.. I think Ruslan is one of his fighters.
They all have very lacking defense that he tries to make up with overwhelming offense.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-14-12, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by hougigo

A lot of his fighters lack defense.
Khan, JCC Jr, Manny, Senchenko.. I think Ruslan is one of his fighters.
They all have very lacking defense that he tries to make up with overwhelming offense.

Yeah, only reason Chavez jr is so effective despite the lack of defense is his solid chin and size. Linares got stopped twice and that first time against demarco roach urged him to go for a KO in those final rounds even though he was winning on the cards.

**hougigo** · 07-14-12, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Yeah, only reason Chavez jr is so effective despite the lack of defense is his solid chin and size. Linares got stopped twice and that first time against demarco roach urged him to go for a KO in those final rounds even though he was winning on the cards.

JCC Jr... just isn't fair. When he steps up, he won't go anywhere. I seriously don't think it's fair when he fights because he's weighing 180+ on fight night. Sergio though has a style to hurt him.... the only thing I don't like is if he can not get trapped against the ropes and stop with that stupid hands down stance.

**bobby heenan** · 07-15-12, 01:04 AM

Haven't posted in awhile.....good call lou

Once again he lives up to the name " a mere con"

Some of the best physical gifts ...just not a top tier fighter between the ears....can't fight on the inside ...can't transition from offense to defense and back with much fluidity ...gets stuck in ruts where he fights offensively....or defensively....can't really transition

My absolute fave is the Asian dwarf thug in garcias camp...noticed him on the ring walK for the morales fight...know I saw him before too....I'd like to see cameras following that guy around for awhile ...I'd watch....u know that guy is a whale

**raydog** · 07-15-12, 01:31 AM

nice call loubert...luckily i didnt have to pay out many garcia tickets...i would probably still have floyd favored in a 2 on 1 match against these guys....lolz

**shady610** · 07-15-12, 01:35 AM

As much as i dont like khan, i do want to see him in bigger fights and not lose to heavy dogs.

**AdamB** · 07-15-12, 03:17 AM

Good shout man. I was looking at fading Khan, because he is unreliable as shit, but this guy looked WAY too slow. A TKO in the 4th is something I could absolutely never have predicted - need to actually watch the fight when I'm done watching the Strikeforce event, but yeah. Weird.

**Grits n' Gravy** · 07-15-12, 04:04 AM

Wow! Never a fan of Khan but I didn't think he'd lose this fight. Said before he reminded me of Hamed. Can't believe nobody took me up on the points bet.