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  • AdamB
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-10-12
    • 197

    #141
    Anyone watched any tape on this Chico Camus guy yet? Looks like Pague's line could be quite nice against a promotional newcomer unless he's a killer.
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    • NunyaBidness
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-26-09
      • 9345

      #142
      Originally posted by AdamB
      Anyone watched any tape on this Chico Camus guy yet? Looks like Pague's line could be quite nice against a promotional newcomer unless he's a killer.
      I know he pronounces it Came-us not Ka-mooo which makes him an asshole in my book.
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      • AdamB
        SBR High Roller
        • 07-10-12
        • 197

        #143
        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
        I know he pronounces it Came-us not Ka-mooo which makes him an asshole in my book.
        Insta-fade it is.
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        • NunyaBidness
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-26-09
          • 9345

          #144
          Glad to see I'm not the only frenchman here.
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          • Bsquared
            SBR Rookie
            • 08-07-12
            • 2

            #145
            Ive seen a few of his matches on youtube. He fights out of Roufusport so you know hes training with some top notch guys. From what I've seen in his videos hes got pretty decent standup and ground. Not much of a mover on the ground though more of a lay and pray.
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #146
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              • charliewang22
                SBR Rookie
                • 07-11-12
                • 6

                #147
                Benson is a beast, still have to pick him in the rematch.

                I like Guillard's chances with the line.
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                • PunisherIND
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-24-11
                  • 4980

                  #148


                  Shields, however, admitted he felt weakened by the altitude of Denver and wished he would have arrived sooner to acclimate. But he hopes that by Saturday, he will be as close as possible to 100 percent.

                  "It's been a little tougher than I thought, but I'm definitely glad I came out a little bit earlier," he said. "Yesterday, I finally had a decent workout. The first few days, I was struggling. I have a couple more days. I'm going to train hard tonight and hope that I'll feel a lot more adjusted.

                  "I don't think I'm going to be 100 percent on Saturday, but as long as I can be close enough."
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                  • Mercersux
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-03-12
                    • 1516

                    #149
                    I'm still leaning Henderson a bit but think Edgar should give him a run for his money. I'm thinking because it's a rematch, the u4.5 rnd prop might not be such a bad play. Tough to imagine either guy getting finished but in rematches finishes are so prevalent.
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                    • Crassus
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-08-12
                      • 1538

                      #150

                      Mind games, confidence or what?
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                      • Beelzebubzy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-06-11
                        • 6995

                        #151
                        Cerrone by Dec +262

                        Melvin has a decent chin and Cerrone will throw leg kicks for three rounds.
                        Cerrone is a mental midget in my opinion. He got out head gamed by Diaz. Who the f knows how he will compete against his 'friend'
                        in addition, we have seen Melvin look lackluster against sluggers in Stephens,
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                        • PunisherIND
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-24-11
                          • 4980

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Crassus
                          Mind games, confidence or what?
                          maybe wishful thinking? i dont know, but i dont like how it sounds.
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                          • Crassus
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-08-12
                            • 1538

                            #153
                            Originally posted by PunisherIND
                            maybe wishful thinking? i dont know, but i dont like how it sounds.
                            Me neither, I just don't understand the thought-process of letting Ed Herman know that.
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                            • Mercersux
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-03-12
                              • 1516

                              #154
                              Originally posted by Crassus
                              Me neither, I just don't understand the thought-process of letting Ed Herman know that.
                              think Shields might be trying to mislead Herman. I think probably his best chance is to turn this into a grapplefest. Maybe an over aggressive/pushing the pace Herman creates more shoot opportunities for Shield where he get dominate position and work it that way. I also find it too odd for Shields to let that type of info out w/o it having a purpose.
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                              • AdamB
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 07-10-12
                                • 197

                                #155
                                Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                Cerrone by Dec +262

                                Melvin has a decent chin and Cerrone will throw leg kicks for three rounds.
                                Cerrone is a mental midget in my opinion. He got out head gamed by Diaz. Who the f knows how he will compete against his 'friend'
                                in addition, we have seen Melvin look lackluster against sluggers in Stephens,
                                I don't agree that he has a good chin - sure he hasn't been knocked out cold, but he has been getting dropped lately (the Lauzon jab, Condit's flash KO of him in training). The worry there is of course that if Cerrone were to drop him, the chances of him getting subbed are astronomical.

                                You could be right though, I do have a feeling that them being buddies is going to affect it and it could well go to a decision.
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                                • Imsmarterthanu
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-02-12
                                  • 1878

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by AdamB
                                  I don't agree that he has a good chin - sure he hasn't been knocked out cold, but he has been getting dropped lately (the Lauzon jab, Condit's flash KO of him in training). The worry there is of course that if Cerrone were to drop him, the chances of him getting subbed are astronomical.

                                  You could be right though, I do have a feeling that them being buddies is going to affect it and it could well go to a decision.
                                  Wrong about that



                                  But you're right about him getting dropped by Jabs both Lauzon and Joe Stevenson dropped him with jabs. Ever since that boxing KO he's been getting dropped by small punches that's why he stays on the outside and leaps in with his punches. I could definitely see Cerrone getting knockout or submission in this fight it just depends on Cerrone's attitude coming into the fight, the history with guillard and the greg jackson training camp and what sort of strategy jackson has for guillard. For all we know Jackson would not want Cerrone to knock him out cold, his strategy may very well be likely to keep it a point by point striking and takedown clinic for 3 rounds.
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                                  • AdamB
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-10-12
                                    • 197

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                    Wrong about that



                                    But you're right about him getting dropped by Jabs both Lauzon and Joe Stevenson dropped him with jabs. Ever since that boxing KO he's been getting dropped by small punches that's why he stays on the outside and leaps in with his punches. I could definitely see Cerrone getting knockout or submission in this fight it just depends on Cerrone's attitude coming into the fight, the history with guillard and the greg jackson training camp and what sort of strategy jackson has for guillard. For all we know Jackson would not want Cerrone to knock him out cold, his strategy may very well be likely to keep it a point by point striking and takedown clinic for 3 rounds.
                                    Brutal. Thanks - good find. I didn't know he had any boxing experience.

                                    I think his leaping in and out is really counter intuitive. When people are scared of him it works, because they try and move away from him rather than planting their feet and countering. The Lauzon fight is a prime example, Melvin's face hits Lauzon's short jab with all of his momentum and he just doesn't have the chin to take that kind of a blow.
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #158
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #159
                                        “Wow you and Melvin??? I was like ‘he took the fight??? after all those ass whoopin’s I seen with my own eyes in training!!!?” Sanchez Tweeted.

                                        Greg Jackson wouldn’t elaborate on Sanchez’s revealing Tweet, but did want to clarify his thoughts on the “Fredo-like” act of discussing family business with people outside the family.

                                        “Donald is a phenomenal fighter and an amazing athlete but I’m not going to go and say who does what in sparring,” says Jackson. “Because if I do that it sets this precedent where now everybody’s worried about sparring and ‘what’s Wink going to say,’ ‘what’s Greg going to say.’ So for me, sparring is a sacred thing you really shouldn’t have to think about. Like, ‘uh oh I had a really bad day.’ I know how it is myself. I did two rounds today and I’m thinking ‘Good Lord when did it start getting so hard?’ But maybe next Tuesday I’ll have a better day. That’s why I never talk about who does what in sparring.”

                                        Cowboy however, makes it pretty clear that his experience in the gym with Melvin inspires confidence.

                                        “Training with the guy -- if you push him -- even in his fights, when he’s down and he starts doubting himself he breaks pretty easy, he folds up a little bit. But I hope a confident Melvin shows up. I want the best Melvin they got. If he thinks he can beat me, that’s great, I’m here and I want to see it. Just tell Melvin ‘I’m coming to whip your ass.’”
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                                        • Beelzebubzy
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-06-11
                                          • 6995

                                          #160
                                          Ask Sanchez if cerrone won 77% of those sessions?

                                          If Diego responds with a yes cartwheel then Beelzebubzy goes 3% in
                                          LSAT if then statement. See I entertain and educate
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                                          • Moffegrev
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 01-27-12
                                            • 12

                                            #161
                                            +269 on Guillard right now, there's got to be some value in that bet? At least I give the stand up advantage to Guillard, and as long as the fight doesn't go to the ground, he should be able to deal with the cowboy.
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                                            • PunisherIND
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 4980

                                              #162
                                              herman by tko +430
                                              guillard by tko +410
                                              okami by tko +190

                                              thinking about this one

                                              lawrence by sub +575
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                                              • Beelzebubzy
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-06-11
                                                • 6995

                                                #163
                                                Like the Lawrence by sub play
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                                                • gabe
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-12-11
                                                  • 7405

                                                  #164
                                                  Okami by TKO is best bet there
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                                                  • GunShard
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-05-10
                                                    • 10027

                                                    #165
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                                                    • Mercersux
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-03-12
                                                      • 1516

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by GunShard
                                                      It's funny that espn calls these guys experts yet i probably only know 1 or 2 out of the six from tv or mma journalism. Ufc really screwed espn out of any legitimacy in the mma realm when they poached all their guys to go over to fueltv.
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                                                      • NunyaBidness
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                        • 9345

                                                        #167
                                                        Even funnier that they're like 50-40 doing straight pickems. Any bum off the street could do that.
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                          Even funnier that they're like 50-40 doing straight pickems. Any bum off the street could do that.
                                                          How the fuuck has Gabe not got the call up? Dude is 98-4
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                                                          • mush
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 11-30-10
                                                            • 79

                                                            #169
                                                            Herman +160
                                                            guillard +250

                                                            Well worth it for me.
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                                                            • Beelzebubzy
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-06-11
                                                              • 6995

                                                              #170
                                                              Franklin McNeil picked against the Black Guy????/


                                                              Oh wait, never mind he picked Edgar because of Jersey
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                                                              • MMAbetMASTA
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-24-11
                                                                • 1931

                                                                #171
                                                                Just asked BJ this is in his thread, but Perez backers!! Why do you like Perez and whats the argument / breakdown for him beating stone... I'm thinking about taking stone but really having a hard time breaking it down and haven't really read an insightful argument for perez... Feedback much appreciated!!
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Guillard 157.5lbs
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                                                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 08-25-08
                                                                    • 7237

                                                                    #173
                                                                    yup
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                                                                    • Mercersux
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-03-12
                                                                      • 1516

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Did Lentz & Mitsuoka weigh in? I'm watching it on fuel tv and they started off on the Camas-Pague fight.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Frankie looks pissed offff
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