KELLY PAVLIK Vs BERNARD HOPKINS

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 7237

    #1
    KELLY PAVLIK Vs BERNARD HOPKINS
    KELLY PAVLIK -420 O 11½ -220
    BERNARD HOPKINS +330 U 11½ +180

    Crazy to lay the Price with Pavlik, anyone taking a shot with Hopkins at +330?
  • Red Man Spit
    SBR High Roller
    • 10-05-07
    • 103

    #2
    Taking a stab at u11.5 rounds +185 @ Legendz.
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    • THE_LOCKSMITH
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-25-08
      • 7237

      #3
      Originally posted by Red Man Spit
      Taking a stab at u11.5 rounds +185 @ Legendz.
      So you think Pavlik will KO hopkins? or other way around? Neither of these guys has ever been KO'd
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      • thejrichshow85
        Restricted User
        • 06-15-08
        • 3342

        #4
        B-hop is getting up there in age, but not passing him up at +330

        you want to make some money next month bet Roy jones jr @ +250 to beat joe calzague and Jermain Taylor -500 to punish jeff lacy
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        • Red Man Spit
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-05-07
          • 103

          #5
          Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
          So you think Pavlik will KO hopkins? or other way around? Neither of these guys has ever been KO'd
          I could see Pavlik getting it done by KO. I'd say in round 9 or 10.
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          • THE_LOCKSMITH
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-25-08
            • 7237

            #6
            Anyone remember before the Hopkins Calzaghe fight Bernard said he'd never lose to a white boy. If's he's not careful he'll have lost 2 in a row to white boys!
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            • TheGovernor11
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-17-08
              • 583

              #7
              Any of you guys happen to see this over on Eastside Boxing? It's very interesting as all the fighters (minus Hatton) are choosing Hopkins while all the writers are choosing Pavlik.

              Pavlik, Hopkins Predictions and Odds


              FIGHTERS:

              Jermain Taylor

              "I like Bernard Hopkins chances in this fight because of his experience and preparation for a fight. He's always in shape, but he has to fight the perfect fight. If Kelly can keep Bernard from fighting in close and pick his punches, he could easily come away with the victory


              Joe Calzaghe

              "Pavlik, who is he? He might get his ass kicked by Hopkins. But I think he will win the fight, mainly due to his youth. Hopkins still has the ability to make it very messy. Regardless, he is definitely over hyped.”


              Oscar De La Hoya

              “I think that Bernard will beat Kelly by a decision. It will be a tough fight, but Bernard will expose Kelly’s weaknesses and win the fight.”


              Shane Mosley

              “I think it’s going to be a close fight but honestly I think that Hopkins is more experienced and will be able to do some things to steal the fight away from Pavlik. Pavlik is younger but I think that Bernard is going to catch him with something and knock him out. Pavlik is going to underestimate Bernard’s power and experience and around the sixth round, Bernard will dodge his jab and catch him with a counter right.”


              Ricky Hatton

              “That’s a tough call, Kelly is an exciting fighter on the way up, but Bernard is a superb technician. If I have to choose one, I lean towards Pavlik.”


              Vernon Forrest

              “Hopkins by decision and if Pavlik gets too greedy Hopkins is going to stop him. They say he can’t pull the trigger any more but I don’t think Calzaghe even did enough to win. Pavlik is a power puncher and typically when Hopkins fights power puncher he stops them. “


              WRITERS:

              Bert Sugar- Boxing Historian

              “Pavlik is going to win by decision. He is not going to knock Bernard out. I don’t think Bernard fights like he once did. His best punch is a right jab followed by a right hit. Pavlik won’t pull the trigger. Remember, Bernard hasn’t been knocked out and has only been knocked down once. If Bernard won I wouldn’t be shocked but I would be surprised.”


              Chris Mannix- Sports Illustrated

              “While continuing to face elite competition, Hopkins has recently looked like a man trying to avoid a knockout loss than one seeking a significant victory. No question Pavlik will be looking for the early KO but his solid, 12-round decision over Jermain Taylor earlier this year proved to me that the power puncher can win when fights go the distance. Take Pavlik in a unanimous decision.”


              Kevin Iole- Yahoo.com

              “Pavlik by decision, Hopkins has been fighting to survive in his past couple of fights. In this fight Pavlik is younger and stronger, and he will out work Hopkins to get the win.”


              Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

              “Bernard is a great fighter, but Pavlik's youth and activity level are going to be hard for him to overcome. It will be a tough fight, but Pavlik on a competitive decision.”


              Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

              ”Pavlik in a decision over Bernard Hopkins. The ghost should be too busy and keep too much pressure on the great, but 43 year old Hopkins. Hopkins can be an octopus and Pavlik has to watch that Bernard does not tie him up or catch him with a sneaky right.”


              John Falgoust- USA Today

              “Pavlik by decision. Hopkins will exploit Pavlik's heavy feet by turning him and walking him into counters. Hopkins will find it difficult staying on the inside with a guy like Pavlik who throws such good short punches, especially uppercuts. Still, Hopkins is more versatile, and even though he may do enough to earn the decision, today's judges usually give the close rounds to the fighter who is more active regardless of accuracy or effectiveness of the punches.”


              Tim Smith- New York Daily News

              “I like Kelly Pavlik against Bernard Hopkins because I think Kelly is younger. I can't see him knocking out Bernard. But I can see him outworking Hopkins for a decision.”


              Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger

              “Middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik is moving up in weight to former light heavyweight king Bernard Hopkins. But when they stand side-by-side, Pavlik appears to be the bigger man. He is younger and stronger than the 43-year-old Hopkins, who is beginning to show signs of slowing down as the results of his five most recent fights indicate – he is 2-3 during that span. Pavlik is a busy fighter and Hopkins doesn’t compete more than a minute per round. This is a dangerous fight for Hopkins. Pavlik, 26, wins by unanimous decision.”


              Keith Idec- Herald News

              “Pavlik by unanimous decision. The crafty, forceful Hopkins will, as usual, make this his kind of fight, ugly but close. At 43, he won't be active enough to make it all that entertaining. But he is still smart enough and skilled enough to make it very competitive.”


              Bobby Cassidy- Newsday

              “Bernard says he's not afraid of a ghost but he should be afraid of this one. I think Pavlik scores a fairly comfortable decision. I would have loved this fight with both men in their primes. But right now, Pavlik's youth, energy and strength will carry the day. Bernard is crafty will survive the 12 rounds but he'll absorb a lot of punches.”


              Lyle Fitzsimmons- Pensacola News Journal

              “Pavlik KO 9--Hopkins has thrived for years against guys he could trick into playing cagey games in the ring. Pavlik is too rough and tumble to go for that sort of sublime bait, and too strong for Bernard to evade all night. I think the end of a legend.”


              Michael David Smith - FanHouse.com (AOL Sports)

              “Hopkins has had a long and distinguished career, but at age 43 he's not quick enough to do damage to a skilled fighter who's just entering his prime like Pavlik. Pavlik will win a decision.”
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              • pimike
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                • 03-23-08
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                #8
                Pavlic
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                • THE_LOCKSMITH
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-25-08
                  • 7237

                  #9
                  Those fighter pics are so biased, De la Hoya and Mosley are in business with Hopkins (Golden Boy) and Taylor has fough both, 2 times each, losing to Pavlik twice and beating Hopkins twice (yet he thinks hopkins wins) And from the quote you posted Hatton and Calzaghe both took Pavlik, not only hatton
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                  • TheGovernor11
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-17-08
                    • 583

                    #10
                    My bad, read through it rather quickly. Just thought it was interesting to see such a split between the fighters and writers.
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                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-25-08
                      • 7237

                      #11
                      Wow, hopkins backers must be happy right now, Lederman card has it 6 rounds to 0 for Bernard Hopkins after 6 rounds
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                      • teaserpleaser
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                        • 08-14-08
                        • 26015

                        #12
                        Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                        Wow, hopkins backers must be happy right now, Lederman card has it 6 rounds to 0 for Bernard Hopkins after 6 rounds
                        Yep my only regret is that i didnt put my $300 dollars on the +360 ML... I went on the +14.5 points handicap -115 but i'll take it easy money!!
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                        • teaserpleaser
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                          • 08-14-08
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                          #13
                          Love it!! not only did i make some easy cash but i got to see an obama 08 on Hopkins cutmans wristband but I also got to watch the latest "Great White Hype" get dominated by a 43 year old Bernard Hopkins... doesnt get much better than that.
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                          • THE_LOCKSMITH
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-25-08
                            • 7237

                            #14
                            Dominated by Bernard hopkins, Pavlik got owned. Now if Roy Jones beats Joe Clazaghe on Nov 8th, it will setup a matcht that should have taken place 10 years ago Hopkins Vs Roy Jones JR
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                            • teaserpleaser
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                              • 08-14-08
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                              #15
                              Almost feel bad for Pavlik... his words not mine" I felt like a novice fighter in there i couldnt do anything" Hope he can rebound seems like a good guy. I understand needing a payday but Pavlik's management should be ashamed of themselves for booking this fight...
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