UFC on FX 4

**jacktheknife** · 06-22-12, 07:27 PM

Let's just say I wish I posted my plays so far, but my night ( and Japanese relevance) lives or dies by Hioki.

**TheCalculator** · 06-22-12, 07:32 PM

That last trip just took the round. Lamas is looking good. He's going to have to avoid the clinch in R2 and R3 to win.

**TheCalculator** · 06-22-12, 07:39 PM

IMO -- Lamas is winning from the bottom. Hioki isn't doing anything from the top. Sadly -- I'm not a judge.

**jacktheknife** · 06-22-12, 07:39 PM

Nice, Hioki looking next-level.

**Vitooch** · 06-22-12, 07:39 PM

Lamas did alot more in that round. Should be R1 for Hioki and 2 for Lamas.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 06-22-12, 07:40 PM

1 round a piece (and I wouldn't be surprised if the 1st was scored for lamas, but I def had the 1st for hioki..)....

Let's go cubano!!!!

**MMAbetMASTA** · 06-22-12, 07:45 PM

it'd be another robbery for hioki if he gets this...29-28 lamas for sure imo..

**Dara27** · 06-22-12, 07:45 PM

Who has this

**Crassus** · 06-22-12, 07:45 PM

29-28 Hioki in my books...

**Vitooch** · 06-22-12, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

29-28 Hioki in my books...

Of course you do.

**Crassus** · 06-22-12, 07:48 PM

well..FML

**Crassus** · 06-22-12, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

Of course you do.

Can't blame a guy for a little bias

**MMAbetMASTA** · 06-22-12, 07:49 PM

Feel bad for hioki though, he is one of the last true japanese talents out there... If I didn't have a small play on lamas I would have been rooting for hioki and honestly would have liked to see him move up more.

Now I bet hioki wishes he didn't pass up that aldo shot....

**Vitooch** · 06-22-12, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

Can't blame a guy for a little bias

Sorry bud.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 06-22-12, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

Can't blame a guy for a little bias

It does happen, my visions been blurred before plenty of times by some bias. Sorry man, hope that didn't hit you too hard - can't be worse than my dumbass tonight!!

**TheCalculator** · 06-22-12, 07:51 PM

FUKEN-A! I'm impressed with the judging. I thought they would of given R2 to Lamas because he spent part of it on it's back (even though he had Hioki in a guillotine for most of that time).

Caught Lamas at +300 in R1 on Bookmaker! BOOM!

**Crassus** · 06-22-12, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

6U on Hatsu Hioki by Decision (+157)
1U on Clay Guida by decision (+544)
3U on Nick Catone (-210)

**Vitooch** · 06-22-12, 07:53 PM

Inconsistent judging. Roop deserved the decision against Hioki if they are going to give Lamas the nod.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 06-22-12, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

well hopefully them units are 10 bucks and not a 100!!! Plus, guida is def live and could make most your money back!!

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-22-12, 07:56 PM

Also impressed with judging. These guys usually think a fighter caught in a guillotine for 3 mins is dominating as long as he is on top.

**Crassus** · 06-22-12, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

well hopefully them units are 10 bucks and not a 100!!! Plus, guida is def live and could make most your money back!!

1U-1% of Bankroll haha. Yeah, here's hoping I basically halve my loss haha. Plus I got Bellator. Should I throw 1moreU on Guida to try and make a profit?

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Also impressed with judging. These guys usually think a fighter caught in a guillotine for 3 mins is dominating as long as he is on top.

There's an argument to be made that if you can't finish the submission you shouldn't get the credit.

**dww123** · 06-22-12, 08:05 PM

Just saw Maynard's girlfriend is pregnant. Might sound ridiculous but i have yet to see a fighter lose when a bambino is on the way. My prediction is Gray will be the first to TKO Guida.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 06-22-12, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by dww123

Just saw Maynard's girlfriend is pregnant. Might sound ridiculous but i have yet to see a fighter lose when a bambino is on the way. My prediction is Gray will be the first to TKO Guida.

Interesting..

So should I go full donkey balls tilt and pay the juice on gray SU at -300???

**spurginobili** · 06-22-12, 08:06 PM

Need Ross here...come on baby...one time!

**Vitooch** · 06-22-12, 08:07 PM

Pearson is solid but not enough to be a 2 to 1 fave. Cub all the way here.

**Vitooch** · 06-22-12, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Interesting..

So should I go full donkey balls tilt and pay the juice on gray SU at -300???

Gray wins in round 1 at +475ish

**dww123** · 06-22-12, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Interesting..

So should I go full donkey balls tilt and pay the juice on gray SU at -300???

Lines come down a bit. Yes you should

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-22-12, 08:17 PM

Swanson looked confident on his feet but might gas idue to the style he is using. The line was jacked up pearson -350 live, still could ake Cub.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-22-12, 08:18 PM

swanson is done, legs are gone already, flat footed

**FindTheLock** · 06-22-12, 08:21 PM

he's done kicking that ass

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-22-12, 08:21 PM

lol pearson got caught there

**spurginobili** · 06-22-12, 08:23 PM

Gotta hand it to Cub.... fought a great fight....nice job

**MMAbetMASTA** · 06-22-12, 08:24 PM

horrible stoppage imo...great fight tho...

**Educ8d Degener8** · 06-22-12, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

horrible stoppage imo...great fight tho...

Tend to agree, but it cashed Swanson ITD +514, so I'll give the ref the benefit of the doubt... ;p

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 06-22-12, 08:25 PM

god damn limey