Anyone else picking James Kirkland to stop Carlos Molina?

**dogthebountyman** · 03-23-12, 10:10 PM

I think he can KO Molina.
Line almost seems to good to be
true

**boxing122** · 03-23-12, 10:57 PM

I think he can stop Molina.

Didn't bet it though...got a parlay riding on Kirkland SU.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 03-24-12, 01:46 PM

I'm taking Molina as the dog, possibly by decision(+299). But it is in Texas Kirklands home state so it will be tough

**SharpBoxing** · 03-24-12, 04:09 PM

I have money on Kirkland by KO,TKO or DQ
And a parlay with Danny Garcia to win and Kirkland by stoppage.

Allot of people are saying Molina is underrated but I dont see what the big deal is about him. He is slow, clumsy footwork, sticks his chin out when he throws punches and has no power. I think Kirkland is really going to beat him up bad.

And Morrales looked really out of shape during the weigh in so Im picking Garcia to win

**SharpBoxing** · 03-24-12, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by dogthebountyman

I think he can KO Molina.
Line almost seems to good to be
true

yeah Kirkland has a 90% knockout ratio. He is a monster.

Really excited about this fight

**Vaughany** · 03-24-12, 04:25 PM

Im playing fight goes distance at +120 on sportbet and Kirkland inside at +162.5 on betfred, wish the boylesports line was still at +250 now! I'll take the risk of losing £340 if Molina finishes!

**SharpBoxing** · 03-24-12, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Im playing fight goes distance at +120 on sportbet and Kirkland inside at +162.5 on betfred, wish the boylesports line was still at +250 now! I'll take the risk of losing £340 if Molina finishes!

Kirkland doesnt have a good chin but dont think Molina has the power to stop him. So I think you are safe

**JoshB** · 03-24-12, 08:52 PM

Molina's not an athlete, not very fluid, but i think he is a failry crafty guy, his feel for timing and distance are pretty good. if Lara couldn't tee off on him than i don't think Kirkland will. I have a small play on Molina to win straight up and play on Kirkland not winning inside the distance.

**Pill Gates** · 03-24-12, 09:54 PM

Texas

**JoshB** · 03-24-12, 09:55 PM

lol!!! wow

he had it in the bag

**SharpBoxing** · 03-24-12, 09:59 PM

Garbage fight. Im glad Molina got DQ. Very dirty fighter

**SharpBoxing** · 03-24-12, 10:04 PM

Not a good night for boxing.

I won my bet but not happy about it.

**dogthebountyman** · 03-24-12, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by SharpBoxing

Not a good night for boxing.

I won my bet but not happy about it.

Agreed. I won a small play but i feel more robbed the way this sport is heading.
To have so much put into training, promoting, major pay networks and then to drop the ball with horrible refs and worse judging is a disgrace. it is a competitive age with so many options in sports. Unless the promoters step up to fix the problem and not contribute to it the sport will keep dipping. Don't see it happening anytime soon. Disgraceful once again Tonight.

**JoshB** · 03-24-12, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by dogthebountyman

Agreed. I won a small play but i feel more robbed the way this sport is heading.
To have so much put into training, promoting, major pay networks and then to drop the ball with horrible refs and worse judging is a disgrace. it is a competitive age with so many options in sports. Unless the promoters step up to fix the problem and not contribute to it the sport will keep dipping. Don't see it happening anytime soon. Disgraceful once again Tonight.

Honestly (and i lost money on the incident) The ref technically made the right call, because it is written in the rules that a guy immediatley gets dis-qualified if one of his cornermen step in the ring during the fight, and that includes a ten count at the end of a round.

**rocky mattioli** · 03-25-12, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by JoshB

Honestly (and i lost money on the incident) The ref technically made the right call, because it is written in the rules that a guy immediatley gets dis-qualified if one of his cornermen step in the ring during the fight, and that includes a ten count at the end of a round.

utterly ludicrous call....the cornerman stepping into the ring has absolutely nothing to do with the fight...the round was over.....it had no impact....to have 2 guys train for months,then to go in there ansd pour their blood,sweat and tears in a fight that`s huge in their lives and careers and have it end like that is a disgrace.......

i had absolutely nothing on this fight,but this is exactly the kind of horseshit that`s ruining boxing.....

it`s possible that kirkland pulls the fight iout with a late stoppage,but,it should be up to kirkland to win it(not have it handed to him).......the ref didn`t make the call immediately..apparently he was prompted.....and as we all could see,the hbo crew was mildly protesting(in their interests to see the exciting house fighter`s career continue on an upward trajectory).....

if he were d.q.`ed on a flagrant,fight changing foul or something that actually affected the fight,then o.k....but to call it on a technicality that had absolutely nothing to do with the flow or outcome is beyond disgraceful.......anybody really think that if kirkland`s cornerman had steped into the ring in similar circumstances a few seconds before the end of a round during an 8 count that he would have been d.q.`ed?....

once again,flies flock to the source of the smell...and that smell is boxing....

boxing just can`t keep from shooting itself in the foot....just ridiculous.....

i love the sport,but this was truly pathetic...

**sideloaded** · 03-25-12, 06:51 AM

boxing is a fukking disgrace of a sport.

**JoshB** · 03-25-12, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by rocky mattioli

but to call it on a technicality that had absolutely nothing to do with the flow or outcome is beyond disgraceful.......anybody really think that if kirkland`s cornerman had steped into the ring in similar circumstances a few seconds before the end of a round during an 8 count that he would have been d.q.`ed?.....

If Molinas corner saw it and brought to the attention of the officials than yes Kirkland would have been DQ'd. Gotta give Kirklands corner props for noticing that and bringing it to the attention of the officals. It was sh!tty, but the fighter cannot be saved by the bell, so the fight was still in progress during the count and the cornerman who entered the ring is to blame. Everything went by the book last night, it just sucks that the cornerman goofed up. He must feel like sh!t this morning.

It looked like the ref didn't even want to make the call, but he had to obey the rules. I even heard him telling the cornerman after it happened "Remember we talked about this in the locker room.....you can't enter the ring during a 10 count."