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  • hels
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-12-09
    • 8767

    #36
    Anyways, doesn't matter vitooth.... I speak the truth and am disappointed so far to the start of the new TUF season. I would even say that last season it was my favourite tv show.

    Hopefully I will feel the same once the 'regular' shows begin.

    I'm out
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    • Vitooch
      SBR MVP
      • 09-26-11
      • 3470

      #37
      Originally posted by hels
      Anyways, doesn't matter vitooth.... I speak the truth and am disappointed so far to the start of the new TUF season. I would even say that last season it was my favourite tv show.

      Hopefully I will feel the same once the 'regular' shows begin.

      I'm out
      I thought the fights were great. More than one round wsn't necessary for most of these fights. Alot of entertaining finishes. Not sure what you are expecting.

      Lawrence is such a ******* killer. Looking forward to him destroying dudes with that nasty striking. Long hair dude was also very impressive. Very slick BJJ.
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      • Vitooch
        SBR MVP
        • 09-26-11
        • 3470

        #38
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Jared Carlsten recently got his BJJ black-belt from Eddie Bravo...very dangerous ground game..one of most flexible dudes u'll ever see...but has faced three cans so far in his short pro MMA career.

        Check out his TUF audition video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSz7f6d2xyQ

        Would have loved to see his rubber guard in action but he get unlucky and got matched up with a killer in Marcello
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        • gabe
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-12-11
          • 7405

          #39
          I don't think the UFC wanted Dakota Cochring to win. They gave him the worst possible stylistic match-up.
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          • PunisherIND
            SBR MVP
            • 02-24-11
            • 4983

            #40
            looks like they set matchups for this week:

            myles jury vs andy ogle
            al laquinta vs jeremy larson
            mike rio vs michael chiesa
            chris saunders vs james vick
            christiano marcelo vs joey proctor
            justin lawrence vs daron curickshank
            sam sicilia vs chris tickle
            john cofer vs vinc pichel
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            • gabe
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-12-11
              • 7405

              #41
              sicilia vs tickle-- damn, i like both those guys.
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              • Educ8d Degener8
                SBR MVP
                • 01-12-10
                • 3177

                #42
                lawrence vs cruickshank is interesting as well... liked cruickshank's mix of his wrestling base and (reportedly from his parents) TKD. And Lawerence looked solid in putting away an experienced vet in Krause...
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                • gabe
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-12-11
                  • 7405

                  #43
                  marcello vs proctor should be really good
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                  • gabe
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-12-11
                    • 7405

                    #44
                    jury vs ogle -- that's actually a featherweight vs featherweight match-up, with both of them competing at lightweight for the show.
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                    • ghost kid
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 09-23-08
                      • 280

                      #45
                      Where is this info from? Do you have a link?

                      Doesn't seem legit. Why would all the matchups be announced up front?

                      Pretty sure it's ONE fight a week for 13 weeks.
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                      • PunisherIND
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-24-11
                        • 4983

                        #46
                        Originally posted by ghost kid
                        Where is this info from? Do you have a link?

                        Doesn't seem legit. Why would all the matchups be announced up front?

                        Pretty sure it's ONE fight a week for 13 weeks.
                        this may not be the most reliable source, but i got the information from Kountermove.com. this is a salary cap fantasy mma game being promoted by randy couture, where you have to choose a 5-fighter lineup for each event. anyway, they have a game set up for TUF 15 with all of the matchups listed.

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                        • ghost kid
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 09-23-08
                          • 280

                          #47
                          That board is to select the overall winner of the show. You pick one of those 16 selections.
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                          • PunisherIND
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-24-11
                            • 4983

                            #48
                            Originally posted by ghost kid
                            That board is to select the overall winner of the show. You pick one of those 16 selections.
                            ahh shite, you are correct. i should have read the rules.

                            sorry everyone.
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                            • ghost kid
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 09-23-08
                              • 280

                              #49
                              Originally posted by PunisherIND
                              ahh shite, you are correct. i should have read the rules.

                              sorry everyone.
                              All good man. All good. I thought you had some inside info we were all going to score on!
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                              • PunisherIND
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-24-11
                                • 4983

                                #50
                                Originally posted by ghost kid
                                All good man. All good. I thought you had some inside info we were all going to score on!
                                lol, dont i wish! side note, there is definitely money to be made on kountermove. i've been playing for the last 5-6 events and already banked some nice coin. you guys should check it out especially if you're in to other types of fantasy games.
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                                • Wanna Bet On It?
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-17-11
                                  • 1032

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  Vick served up some karma to Cruickshank for showboating over a KOed opponent. Daaaaamn
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                                  • Wanna Bet On It?
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-17-11
                                    • 1032

                                    #52
                                    Next week's fight looks ridiculous between Lawrence & Marcelo.

                                    I'm starting to really like this new format.
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                                    • rocky mattioli
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-26-10
                                      • 1263

                                      #53
                                      dominick cruz:

                                      "duh,which knob is the hot water,dude?"


                                      /i don`t think dominic gets the strategy concept of the competition......
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                                      • Wanna Bet On It?
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-17-11
                                        • 1032

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                        dominick cruz:

                                        "duh,which knob is the hot water,dude?"


                                        /i don`t think dominic gets the strategy concept of the competition......
                                        Well, he put Faber on the spot and then when Faber asked his team who wants to fight Lawrence, they all pussied out, so I'd say Cruz holds a pretty damn brilliant psychological advantage over Team Faber.

                                        Picking Marcelo could be a really, really good move or a really, really bad one. Maybe Lawrence knows something about Marcelo from training with Anderson Silva and mentioned it to Cruz earlier this week... or maybe Dom is just trying to assert himself as the alpha dog who ain't scared of anyone on Faber's squad. We'll see...
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                                        • Kaladarus
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-11-09
                                          • 1876

                                          #55
                                          I really like the move by Cruz. Hard for someone from Faber's team to step up against a #1 pick and Faber didn't really have a guy that matched up well stylistically. I think Marcelo might be one of the toughest fights for Lawrence though.
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                                          • rocky mattioli
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-26-10
                                            • 1263

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Kaladarus
                                            I really like the move by Cruz. Hard for someone from Faber's team to step up against a #1 pick and Faber didn't really have a guy that matched up well stylistically. I think Marcelo might be one of the toughest fights for Lawrence though.
                                            the idea is to put a guy from your own camp in a winning match-up so you can continue picking what you deem favorable match-ups throughout(and therefore getting more guys to move forward in the competition)...i mean,that`s the point of getting to pick,isn`t it?...

                                            i agree that marcelo is probably as bad a match-up as cruz could have asked for....cruz and faber might be excellent fighters,but as tacticians,they`re about a dozen bottles short of a six pack(cruz in particular).....
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                                            • Oblivian
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-27-12
                                              • 163

                                              #57
                                              I think Cruz was just capitalizing on the situation. Put yourself in Urijah's shoes. One of his top picks just lost. Cruz just put the #1 pick out there who he believes won't lose to anyone. Putting Urijah and his team in the position to pick someone against Lawrence was not something that settled well with Urijah and the team. From here on, I expect Cruz to actually pick the matchups. I think he was really trying to **** with them early.
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                                              • rocky mattioli
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-26-10
                                                • 1263

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Oblivian
                                                I think Cruz was just capitalizing on the situation. Put yourself in Urijah's shoes. One of his top picks just lost. Cruz just put the #1 pick out there who he believes won't lose to anyone. Putting Urijah and his team in the position to pick someone against Lawrence was not something that settled well with Urijah and the team. From here on, I expect Cruz to actually pick the matchups. I think he was really trying to **** with them early.
                                                personally,i don`t think he understood what he was supposed to do......if anyone saw dana`s face,he was dumbfounded.....what cruz ended up doing was putting(what he considered his top dog) in with a jits guy who probably has a real chance of catching him in something......

                                                "put your alpha male out there"....????...really?........lol
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                                                • Wanna Bet On It?
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-17-11
                                                  • 1032

                                                  #59
                                                  Cruz thinks his trump card is better than anyone on Faber's team. He thinks Lawrence will beat any other guy regardless of where the fight goes including grappling versus Marcelo. Cocky? Yes. Stupid? Maybe. Brilliant? Perhaps. We'll see next Friday...
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                    personally,i don`t think he understood what he was supposed to do......if anyone saw dana`s face,he was dumbfounded.....what cruz ended up doing was putting(what he considered his top dog) in with a jits guy who probably has a real chance of catching him in something......

                                                    "put your alpha male out there"....????...really?........lol
                                                    ha thts what I thought, looked like he actually thought tht Faber was supposed to pick the opponent! He was smart enough to annoy Faber by picking Tickle which showed some initiative but then suddenly wasnt smart enough to pick a favourable matchup for his number one pick?! Seems strange to me
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                                                    • Kaladarus
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-11-09
                                                      • 1876

                                                      #61
                                                      It could also be Cruz having confidence in Lawrence and Lawrence asking him to get Faber to pick. It may have been his fighters choice to do something like that and as a coach allowing your fighter to have his way like that could make him fight better. Either way Lawrence is going to have to fight the top guys so maybe he didn't mind being put up against Marcelo.

                                                      We're not really sure why Cruz did the move and it may look like a dumb move, but the move has a potential to pay off big in the end. Also eliminating Faber's #3 and #2 picks could really mess with Faber's team. If Lawrence wins I don't think this could have gone any better for Cruz. He will have his top guy advance, keep control, eliminate 2 of Faber's best guys and be able to annoy Faber whenever he wants because his fighters were all too scared to fight Lawrence when they were asked to fight him.
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                                                      • Hannibal
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-15-11
                                                        • 1055

                                                        #62
                                                        If you just keep picking your best guys against their worse guys, the end result will be bothh teams have their top guys move to the next round. At the next round, they have no control of picks.
                                                        I'd say cruz is quite the strategist by eliminating the threats on faber's team, and also fcking with their heads.
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #63
                                                          Marcello +155 on Bookmaker
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                                                          • Vitooch
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-26-11
                                                            • 3470

                                                            #64
                                                            I think I will be taking that
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                                                            • Beelzebubzy
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-06-11
                                                              • 6995

                                                              #65
                                                              Kampmann vs Ellenberger
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                                                              • omalley21
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-08-10
                                                                • 908

                                                                #66
                                                                I don't think Marcello can take him down, and even if he does, he won't keep him there. Lawrence has better striking and better wrestling. Marcello still looks rigid in the stand up and he doesn't tuck his chin very well either.
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                                                                • Kaladarus
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-11-09
                                                                  • 1876

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I agree with omalley here. I think Lawrence is just too quick and has a significant striking advantage. Small play for me because it's TUF and you never know, but I got to take the -200.
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                                                                  • Vitooch
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-26-11
                                                                    • 3470

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Who's to say that Marcello wont havw his way with him if he is able to take Lawrence down? Has Lawrence faced anyone experienced and as skilled on the ground as Marcello?
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                                                                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                                      • 08-25-08
                                                                      • 7237

                                                                      #69
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                                                                      • Hannibal
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-15-11
                                                                        • 1055

                                                                        #70
                                                                        lawrence finally up on pinny
                                                                        big play for me
                                                                        i'll take the young stud validated by both cruz and anderson silva over an old man that never made it
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