Christ like MMA betting

[gabe]

No that is exactly what it means. Anyones who claims to have won on some plays, or they claim they hit a big bet, and they can't produce or post the ticket number, then they have no credibility and they are full of shit. Most respected people on here, (such as Jesus) usually always post their picks beforehand. If they are actually making plays, then most of them also post the bets before the fight card starts, and they include the amount of the wager along with the ticket number. So, no, not everyone on here mentions bets they have won after the fight is over, simply not true. FAIL. You are the only one Gabe, and you should stop and start being honest with yourself.

Huh? I offered $500 if you were able to produce one example, you went MONTHS in my post history, and were unable to do so... and you're still running your mouth claiming I post my bets post-event? lol funny shit

It's clear you don't read threads on this forum, because just on this last card alone people mentioned bets they had made after the fights were over. Being dumb is one thing, being a scumbag is another. Jeez, this guy.

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Proof I posted my plays before the event (in case any by-passers take this retard seriously):

"GABE. Nice picks!! I tailed you on a Newton, Wiuff, Stone, Brown, Siler, Ebersole, Stout parlay, I liked it and it didn't conflict with any of my own plays. Made my night a +500 instead of -100 ""

[GunShard]

No that is exactly what it means. Anyones who claims to have won on some plays, or they claim they hit a big bet, and they can't produce or post the ticket number, then they have no credibility and they are full of shit. Most respected people on here, (such as Jesus) usually always post their picks beforehand. If they are actually making plays, then most of them also post the bets before the fight card starts, and they include the amount of the wager along with the ticket number. So, no, not everyone on here mentions bets they have won after the fight is over, simply not true. FAIL. You are the only one Gabe, and you should stop and start being honest with yourself.

The best way to keep track of plays is with the SBR spreadsheet. That's what I use.

[PunisherIND]

The best way to keep track of plays is with the SBR spreadsheet. That's what I use.

i wasnt aware of this. i'll try to maintain a spreadsheet in the future.

anyone know if you can keep track of parlays on the spreadsheet?

[DublinMeUp]

Good for tracking your bets, bad for tracking others bets

[PunisherIND]

Good for tracking your bets, bad for tracking others bets

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why do you say that dublin? because you can enter a wager after the fact?

[Vaughany]

Good for tracking your bets, bad for tracking others bets

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lol BankruptUS.com

[DublinMeUp]

why do you say that dublin? because you can enter a wager after the fact?

Precisely, so the problem highlighted in the last few pages of this thread would remain (if it exists in the first place i mean )

[PunisherIND]

Precisely, so the problem highlighted in the last few pages of this thread would remain (if it exists in the first place i mean )

but there is a timestamp in case someone wanted to scrutinize your spreadsheet and make sure you entered the picks before the event... but then again, who the F wants to do that.

[DirtyX]

The best way to keep track of plays is with the SBR spreadsheet. That's what I use.

Nice man, I honestly didn't even know this was something offered on here. Thanks.

[DublinMeUp]

who the F wants to do that.

Yeah this.

What i meant was that although the time stamp shows when the event was entered it doesn't have any bearing on the event itself, so if a person wanted they could argue that their play was made before the event or that the sheet is wrong etc etc, similar to someone asking someone else to trawl through a cluttered 100 page thread to verify picks

Ps If you wanna use it for parlays you could enter each selection in the play box separated by a comma or something and enter "parlay" where i put asian, then just fill in the cumulative odds and risk amount.

or

Enter each selection in its own line with correct odds etc but enter $0 for risk amount, then at the end enter a new line with parlay as your "selection", cumulative odds and total risked.

option two seems better as you can mark individual fights as wins/losses

[DirtyX]

Hey Jesus, just curious if you will be playing DHK on the 148 card...? I played him straight up at -135, and just wanted to know your thoughts on that fight. Also, wanted your thoughts, and other's thoughts on a couple plays: I am thinking/debating on paying the juice on Anderson at -265. I know many people on here are saying one would have to be crazy to bet on Anderson at those odds after his last performance against Sonnen, but I think he wins. I am also thinking of fading Melvin, and betting on Camoes, assuming he is at least a 2-1 dog. Also wanted to fade Alessio by laying some $$$ on Roller as well. Thoughts gentlemen?

(GABE, none of your thoughts or opinions are wanted, please ignore this post, and stay out of this thread, THANKS)

[PunisherIND]

Yeah this.

What i meant was that although the time stamp shows when the event was entered it doesn't have any bearing on the event itself, so if a person wanted they could argue that their play was made before the event or that the sheet is wrong etc etc, similar to someone asking someone else to trawl through a cluttered 100 page thread to verify picks

Ps If you wanna use it for parlays you could enter each selection in the play box separated by a comma or something and enter "parlay" where i put asian, then just fill in the cumulative odds and risk amount.

or

Enter each selection in its own line with correct odds etc but enter $0 for risk amount, then at the end enter a new line with parlay as your "selection", cumulative odds and total risked.

option two seems better as you can mark individual fights as wins/losses

thanks dublin.. although im not sure if i'm going to use this spreadsheet now. i already keep track of my wagers on an excel spreadsheet. the only reason i was going to use this was to share my picks with the forum, but it seems like it's more trouble than its worth.

[gabe]

(GABE, none of your thoughts or opinions are wanted, please ignore this post, and stay out of this thread, THANKS)

"in all honesty, you do know your MMA"

No prob, bro. Thanks!

[Jesus Christ]

Hey Jesus, just curious if you will be playing DHK on the 148 card...? I played him straight up at -135, and just wanted to know your thoughts on that fight. Also, wanted your thoughts, and other's thoughts on a couple plays: I am thinking/debating on paying the juice on Anderson at -265. I know many people on here are saying one would have to be crazy to bet on Anderson at those odds after his last performance against Sonnen, but I think he wins. I am also thinking of fading Melvin, and betting on Camoes, assuming he is at least a 2-1 dog. Also wanted to fade Alessio by laying some $$$ on Roller as well. Thoughts gentlemen?

(GABE, none of your thoughts or opinions are wanted, please ignore this post, and stay out of this thread, THANKS)

I'll be honest I haven't looked close enough yet on the fights to give a real good opinion on the undercard....but I have no problem laying the juice on Anderson...Chael fought a nearly flawless fight in his last match with Anderson and still lost...I just think it's hard to imagine that Chael will be capable of a repeat performance...Anderson Inside the distance is gonna be the play for me as soon as I can get more than 50$ on it

[GunShard]

Nice man, I honestly didn't even know this was something offered on here. Thanks.

No problem. You can find out if a spreadsheet has deleted plays by clicking on View Log at the upper right. Usually the bad gamblers do that to their spreadsheets.

[DeFactoCrippler]

I feel like I need to save this thread so I'm gonna go into the lab and find a boxing winner for this weekend.

The problem with your thread is that you have an Armenian infestation. I was able to spot it right away but was even called a "racist" for merely stating the obvious.

How can I be a racist when I am nothing but a friend of minorities? I vehemently support boxers like Peter Quillen who can't even get a damn cab.

In fact, I only listen to music made by black people

But I simply can't tolerate these dirty Armenians. I think the people who refer to me as racist simply aren't as erudite and well read as I am. I cite the novelist George Orwell who in his novel "Down and Out in Paris" used a phrase that was popular in France at the time: "Trust a snake before a Jew and a Jew before a Greek, but don’t trust an Armenian."

I will leave the excerpt here

There were thieves among the staff, and if you left money in your coat pockets it was generally taken. The doorkeeper, who paid our wages and searched us for stolen food, was the greatest thief in the hotel. Out of my five hundred francs a month, this man actually managed to cheat me of a hundred and fourteen francs in six weeks. I had asked to be paid daily, so the doorkeeper paid me sixteen francs each evening, and, by not paying for Sundays (for which of course payment was due), pocketed sixty-four francs. Also, I sometimes worked on a Sunday, for which, though I did not know it, I was entitled to an extra twenty-five francs. The doorkeeper never paid me this either, and so made away with another seventy-five francs. I only realized during my last week that I was being cheated, and, as I could prove nothing, only twenty-five francs were refunded. The doorkeeper played similar tricks on any employee who was fool enough to be taken in. He called himself a Greek, but in reality he was an Armenian. After knowing him I saw the force of the proverb ‘Trust a snake before a Jew and a Jew before a Greek, but don’t trust an Armenian.’

[MMAbetMASTA]

The problem with your thread is that you have an Armenian infestation. I was able to spot it right away but was even called a "racist" for merely stating the obvious.

How can I be a racist when I am nothing but a friend of minorities? I vehemently support boxers like Peter Quillen who can't even get a damn cab.

In fact, I only listen to music made by black people

But I simply can't tolerate these dirty Armenians. I think the people who refer to me as racist simply aren't as erudite and well read as I am. I cite the novelist George Orwell who in his novel "Down and Out in Paris" used a phrase that was popular in France at the time: "Trust a snake before a Jew and a Jew before a Greek, but don’t trust an Armenian."

I will leave the excerpt here

[gabe]

I feel happy knowing De Facto has had been bullied by Armenians.

God damn. Somebody PM him the # to a legit therapist.

[El Nino]

Hey Jesus, just curious if you will be playing DHK on the 148 card...? I played him straight up at -135, and just wanted to know your thoughts on that fight. Also, wanted your thoughts, and other's thoughts on a couple plays: I am thinking/debating on paying the juice on Anderson at -265. I know many people on here are saying one would have to be crazy to bet on Anderson at those odds after his last performance against Sonnen, but I think he wins. I am also thinking of fading Melvin, and betting on Camoes, assuming he is at least a 2-1 dog. Also wanted to fade Alessio by laying some $$$ on Roller as well. Thoughts gentlemen?

(GABE, none of your thoughts or opinions are wanted, please ignore this post, and stay out of this thread, THANKS)

I researched Camoes and watched some of his previous fights. I know everyone sees an elite BJJ fighter and automatically assumes that he will submit Melvin. After watching Camoes' fights, I don't know if he can take Melvin down. He doesn't have a strong shot, in the fights I saw he clinched up and dragged down his opponent or scored a
trip. Camoes has a muay thai background as well but his standup is not that impressive. He doesn't have a lot of head movement and I think he gets clipped here. Melvin's explosiveness and athleticism are unreal for 155. The X factor here is Melvin. He beats himself a lot and can be a huge headcase. He was winning the Miller fight until he got cute with his 4th or 5th flying knee attempt and Miller dragged him down. If Melvin can utilize his boxing and distance, I think he wins this by TKO/KO. I believe Melvin moved out of Jackson's camp and is training with the Blackzillians in Boca Raton.

[Educ8d Degener8]

...Anderson Inside the distance is gonna be the play for me as soon as I can get more than 50$ on it

[Vitooch]

Seems like most of the MMA regulars are on Anderson and casual PT bettors are on Chael.

[Vaughany]

I researched Camoes and watched some of his previous fights. I know everyone sees an elite BJJ fighter and automatically assumes that he will submit Melvin. After watching Camoes' fights, I don't know if he can take Melvin down. He doesn't have a strong shot, in the fights I saw he clinched up and dragged down his opponent or scored a
trip. Camoes has a muay thai background as well but his standup is not that impressive. He doesn't have a lot of head movement and I think he gets clipped here. Melvin's explosiveness and athleticism are unreal for 155. The X factor here is Melvin. He beats himself a lot and can be a huge headcase. He was winning the Miller fight until he got cute with his 4th or 5th flying knee attempt and Miller dragged him down. If Melvin can utilize his boxing and distance, I think he wins this by TKO/KO. I believe Melvin moved out of Jackson's camp and is training with the Blackzillians in Boca Raton.

yep, Camoes is a plodder...has next to zero footwork and is quite rotund shall we say! As u say his takedowns usually come from grabbing hold of his opponent and dragging them down rather than from a power double or single. Gonna be difficult against somebody like Guillard. Only way I see him finishing Melvin is if Melvin goes full retard again with his hands down like against Lauzon and gets caught and dropped, or if Camoes does some how close distance and just immediately jumps on Guillards back and sinks hooks in. Both unlikely scenarios tho

[Khiaao]

I'll be honest I haven't looked close enough yet on the fights to give a real good opinion on the undercard....but I have no problem laying the juice on Anderson...Chael fought a nearly flawless fight in his last match with Anderson and still lost...I just think it's hard to imagine that Chael will be capable of a repeat performance...Anderson Inside the distance is gonna be the play for me as soon as I can get more than 50$ on it

Cool, thanks

[El Nino]

yep, Camoes is a plodder...has next to zero footwork and is quite rotund shall we say! As u say his takedowns usually come from grabbing hold of his opponent and dragging them down rather than from a power double or single. Gonna be difficult against somebody like Guillard. Only way I see him finishing Melvin is if Melvin goes full retard again with his hands down like against Lauzon and gets caught and dropped, or if Camoes does some how close distance and just immediately jumps on Guillards back and sinks hooks in. Both unlikely scenarios tho

V, I agree. I have Melvin winning this one. I'm seein positive signs that he's focused. Hasn't talked about title shots or anything retarded like that. In the media, learned painful lessons from his last two fights. This oppenent is perfect for Guillard to get back in the win column. Early lines are a little higher than I'd have like to see. Was expecting -250. Seeing anything from -278 to -290. Oppenent has no name, going to hurt Guillard backers.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Hey Jesus, just curious if you will be playing DHK on the 148 card...? I played him straight up at -135, and just wanted to know your thoughts on that fight. Also, wanted your thoughts, and other's thoughts on a couple plays: I am thinking/debating on paying the juice on Anderson at -265. I know many people on here are saying one would have to be crazy to bet on Anderson at those odds after his last performance against Sonnen, but I think he wins. I am also thinking of fading Melvin, and betting on Camoes, assuming he is at least a 2-1 dog. Also wanted to fade Alessio by laying some $$$ on Roller as well. Thoughts gentlemen?

(GABE, none of your thoughts or opinions are wanted, please ignore this post, and stay out of this thread, THANKS)

thinking the opposite on roller, dirty dick... I think roller is auto fade material, def wouldn't pay that juice on roller (-245 is ridiculous juice for that guy imo), his best hope is to get it to the ground and keep it there for a gridning and boring 3 round decision. His td ability looks worse with every fight, and because I give allesio the standing, cardio, jitz, experience / better comp faced and a definite size edge, I'm liking allessio at those odds and they appear to be getting better. I think shane is the rightful favorite as allesio's obvious weakness are superior grapplers who can keep him on his back, but I'm not sure shane is the guy to do that for 3 rounds, and at -245 that's just too much so I think there is value in allessio, especially if his odds get close to +200...

Also I somewhat agree on camoes, but I wouldn't play him at this point... I think melvin is also auto fade material and I def wouldn't pay that -300 juice on him in this, as I think he always has the potential to be upset, but I also wouldn't play camoes due to his horrible stand up, so a no play imo... BUt he does have power in his hands when considering melvins suspect chin and if he gets melvin in a bad spot on the ground I can see the classic guillard fumble going down, so I would love to see an upset and wouldn't be suprised - its wishful thinking but you never know!

GL with your kim bet, I still can't pull the trigger on it, gonna wait till the weigh ins.

[Vitooch]

thinking the opposite on roller, dirty dick... I think roller is auto fade material, def wouldn't pay that juice on roller (-245 is ridiculous juice for that guy imo), his best hope is to get it to the ground and keep it there for a gridning and boring 3 round decision. His td ability looks worse with every fight, and because I give allesio the standing, cardio, jitz, experience / better comp faced and a definite size edge, I'm liking allessio at those odds and they appear to be getting better. I think shane is the rightful favorite as allesio's obvious weakness are superior grapplers who can keep him on his back, but I'm not sure shane is the guy to do that for 3 rounds, and at -245 that's just too much so I think there is value in allessio, especially if his odds get close to +200...

Also I somewhat agree on camoes, but I wouldn't play him at this point... I think melvin is also auto fade material and I def wouldn't pay that -300 juice on him in this, as I think he always has the potential to be upset, but I also wouldn't play camoes due to his horrible stand up, so a no play imo... BUt he does have power in his hands when considering melvins suspect chin and if he gets melvin in a bad spot on the ground I can see the classic guillard fumble going down, so I would love to see an upset and wouldn't be suprised - its wishful thinking but you never know!

GL with your kim bet, I still can't pull the trigger on it, gonna wait till the weigh ins.

Planning on Alessio being one of my biggest dog plays on the card. Alessio should outbox the slow and predictable headhunter in Roller. You are correct, Roller isn't the type to control a fighter for three rounds. When was the last time we've seen him do this? He may mix in the occasional takedown attempt, but his MMA wrestling just isn't very good. Also, when he does take opponents down, he has trouble controlling them (see fight with TJ Grant). Alessio has seen all of the tricks in his long career that Roller will attempt. I would be shocked if Roller pulls off that signature guillotine he attempts in nearly every fight. I can see Alessio win enough exchanges standing and scramble situations to win a decision a good percentage of the time. Such odds is an absolute gift in my opinion. Only thing I'm worried about is the pure mathematical unlikeliness that a fighter of Roller's caliber losing so many fights in a row. And yes, I am counting that fluke win against Tavares. Alessio is experienced, crafty, well-rounded, and has good cardio. Bocek possesses some of the best grappling chops in all of MMA. No shame in Alessio dropping a decision to such a fighter. Alessio's well-roundedness will come into play in this fight much more than his previous. Roller likes to mix up his ugly striking with predictabe takedown attempts, and I think Alessio is experienced and talented enough to handle such a fighter.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Agree with everything man, glad you're on the same page that makes me feel a bit better!

[Beelzebubzy]

Planning on Alessio being one of my biggest dog plays on the card. Alessio should outbox the slow and predictable headhunter in Roller. You are correct, Roller isn't the type to control a fighter for three rounds. When was the last time we've seen him do this? He may mix in the occasional takedown attempt, but his MMA wrestling just isn't very good. Also, when he does take opponents down, he has trouble controlling them (see fight with TJ Grant). Alessio has seen all of the tricks in his long career that Roller will attempt. I would be shocked if Roller pulls off that signature guillotine he attempts in nearly every fight. I can see Alessio win enough exchanges standing and scramble situations to win a decision a good percentage of the time. Such odds is an absolute gift in my opinion. Only thing I'm worried about is the pure mathematical unlikeliness that a fighter of Roller's caliber losing so many fights in a row. And yes, I am counting that fluke win against Tavares. Alessio is experienced, crafty, well-rounded, and has good cardio. Bocek possesses some of the best grappling chops in all of MMA. No shame in Alessio dropping a decision to such a fighter. Alessio's well-roundedness will come into play in this fight much more than his previous. Roller likes to mix up his ugly striking with predictabe takedown attempts, and I think Alessio is experienced and talented enough to handle such a fighter.

Exactly,

skimmed through it seems like my thoughts exactly
add in Roller has gassing issues

[Jesus Christ]

As long as Maia doesn't come in looking like James Irvin at 185 I will be making a substantial play on him.

[phillybadboy]

i will tail huge!

[MMAbetMASTA]

Yo dog masta... aka JC dog king..

Which one of these dogs you like best son? If you had to rank from top to bottom (1. being your favorite...). I think for the first time ever I'm gonna play strictly dogs in this card (although tempted to play easton and tibau as favs).

I already got a play on alessio (might have gone a lil too heavy on him tho...)

These are the last dogs I'm looking at, as I think they all have potential to upset...

1. Fukuda

2. Le

3. Camoes

4. Ortiz

I would love to put a sprinkle on all of them, but don't have the funds in my bankroll to risk so I'm having a hard time figuring out which one or two of these to play.

Would also love to hear your thoughts on easton / menji and tibau / khabib..?

[Jesus Christ]

Yo dog masta... aka JC dog king..

Which one of these dogs you like best son? If you had to rank from top to bottom (1. being your favorite...). I think for the first time ever I'm gonna play strictly dogs in this card (although tempted to play easton and tibau as favs).

I already got a play on alessio (might have gone a lil too heavy on him tho...)

These are the last dogs I'm looking at, as I think they all have potential to upset...

1. Fukuda

2. Le

3. Camoes

4. Ortiz

I would love to put a sprinkle on all of them, but don't have the funds in my bankroll to risk so I'm having a hard time figuring out which one or two of these to play.

Would also love to hear your thoughts on easton / menji and tibau / khabib..?

1.) Camoes
2.) Ortiz
3.) Fukuda
4.) Le

I'm gonna be playing Camoes myself..he's got a lot of heart and a lot of chin and one slip up from Melvin and this will hit the mat which is game over...as for my least favorite..I wouldn't recommend betting Le to anyone..every which way I play that fight out it ends with Cote brutally knocking out Le.

Easton/Menjivar and Tibau/Nurmagomedov I haven't done the proper research yet but my initial leans are Easton( As of now I'll be making a play on him) and Nurmagomedov..but still gotta watch a bit of tape.

GL to you on Satuday.

[MMAbetMASTA]

1.) Camoes
2.) Ortiz
3.) Fukuda
4.) Le

I'm gonna be playing Camoes myself..he's got a lot of heart and a lot of chin and one slip up from Melvin and this will hit the mat which is game over...as for my least favorite..I wouldn't recommend betting Le to anyone..every which way I play that fight out it ends with Cote brutally knocking out Le.

Easton/Menjivar and Tibau/Nurmagomedov I haven't done the proper research yet but my initial leans are Easton( As of now I'll be making a play on him) and Nurmagomedov..but still gotta watch a bit of tape.

GL to you on Satuday.

Right on bruddah man, thanks for the insight.

Agree on Le, I keep talking myself into him winning and haveing vastly improved conditioning so that he can keep it upright and bang with cote (where I do think he has an edge especially if he's fresh and fluid with his movement), but I my heart sees him fading mid fight like smith and wand fights and getting stopped, or dropping a decision.

Let me know your final thoughts on tibau's fight... I am really close to taking tibau but wanna hear people's arguments for khabib, I have yet to hear a good one that conflicts with what I posted in the other thread.

GL as well man, hope to see you killin' it again

[gabe]

Aside from Maia, we're on the same page pretty much

[El Nino]

As long as Maia doesn't come in looking like James Irvin at 185 I will be making a substantial play on him.

Any reason you are so high on Maia? His last few fights he seems to want to stand and bang.