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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 7237

    #771
    Okami was bad but Kongo crushed me. Hunt gets ko'd by middleweights like Manhoef but Kongo can't take him out. I'm done laying chalk on asian and most europeans
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    • Mikail
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-19-09
      • 21689

      #772
      Originally posted by sportsfanatic
      facing jose is not a good idea. aldo will destroy him.
      So true!
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      • MMAbetMASTA
        SBR MVP
        • 05-24-11
        • 1931

        #773
        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
        My UFC 144 Plays:

        Ticket#:66011938
        Feb 26 11:59 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 24 11:46 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24352] F EDGAR -135
        (B HENDERSON vrs F EDGAR)

        135 / 100
        -----------
        Ticket#:66054463
        Feb 25 10:05 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 04:44 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24396] A PETTIS -260
        (J LAUZON vrs A PETTIS)

        260 / 100
        ------------------
        Ticket#:66064049
        Feb 25 10:55 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 06:14 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24369] TOTAL o2½-260
        (BOETSCH/OKAMI TOT RDS vrs BOETSCH/OKAMI TOT RDS)

        260 / 100
        ------------------------
        Ticket#:66064087
        Feb 25 08:05 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 06:15 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24389] TOTAL o2½-300
        (CARIASCO/MIZUGAKI TOT RDS vrs CARIASCO/MIZUGAKI TOT RDS)

        300 / 100
        --------------------
        Ticket#:66064125
        Feb 25 07:30 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 06:15 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24393] TOTAL o2½-130
        (TAMURA/ZHANG TOT RDS vrs TAMURA/ZHANG TOT RDS)

        130 / 100
        ------------------------
        Ticket#:65839948
        Feb 25 11:55 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 21 04:59 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24359] M HUNT +260
        (M HUNT vrs C KONGO)

        50 / 130
        ------------------------

        Breaking my rules and going a bit degenerate on this one, but have had a nice few past events so I guess I'm willing to risk it.... Got a lot on the line for overs, going to add on cantwell / fukuda over too if my mizugaki / cariasco play hits.

        If I fail on these overs I've promised myself to never play them again lol... they've bit me in the ass before, but I feel good about these to an extent. So I'll either gain confidence or learn from my mistake, gotta take some risk to learn!

        Will also be adding a couple str8s on dogs, but my book is still lagging on updating the odds, best fight odds has a couple fights I'm looking at listed at more favorable odds, so I'm hoping my site updates soon and I'll put them up here when I make them.

        GL tonight everyone - I'm really stoked for this card.
        -195
        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
        ADDING:
        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

        Ticket#:66088932
        Feb 26 12:50 AM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 26 12:12 AM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24353] TOTAL o4½-220
        (HENDERSON/EDGAR TOT RDS vrs HENDERSON/EDGAR TOT RDS)

        220 / 100
        +100

        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
        Adding:
        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

        Ticket#:66085171
        Feb 25 10:55 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 10:24 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24369] TOTAL o2½-220
        (BOETSCH/OKAMI TOT RDS vrs BOETSCH/OKAMI TOT RDS)

        220 / 100
        ----------------------------
        Ticket#:66085199
        Feb 25 10:55 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 10:25 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24367] T BOETSCH +345
        (T BOETSCH vrs Y OKAMI)

        50 / 173
        -------------------

        Only made the boetsch play out of value and also because I can only see the fight not going the distance by a flash ko / stoppage from Boetsch. I'd be very surprised if OKami stops Tim.

        Either way I'm screwed for the night if that over doesn't hit!!!
        -47

        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
        Adding:
        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

        Ticket#:66081243
        Feb 25 09:35 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 09:15 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24375] E MITSUOKA +195
        (E MITSUOKA vrs T GOMI)

        50 / 98
        -50

        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
        Adding:
        Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

        Ticket#:66068531
        Feb 25 07:30 PM
        INTERNET / -1Feb 25 06:54 PM
        MU
        STRAIGHT BET
        [24391] I TAMURA +230
        (I TAMURA vrs T ZHANG)

        50 / 115
        +115

        Overall lost 77... Considering I got super degenerate and tipsy, laying down about 1500, most of it last minute today, I guess it could have been worse.


        Very disappointed in myself, nevertheless. Gotta to eat my own words above. I knew the overs would haunt me it was stupid Okami / boetsch killed me. Never playing overs again unless low lines and perfect style match ups. I can't call the over / unders with consistency... Need to stick to the basics and str8 plays. Had I stuck to just str8 picks would have won 333, hit some nice dogs tonight but over unders ruined that!

        Seems like a lot of people had rough nights, the upsets hurt for sure I imagine.

        Congrats to the bader backers, page deserved that...

        Gottta say that the fights were epic for the most part, I really enjoyed them.
        Cheers everyone and congrats to those who survived this brutal night
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        • MMAbetMASTA
          SBR MVP
          • 05-24-11
          • 1931

          #774
          Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
          Okami was bad but Kongo crushed me. Hunt gets ko'd by middleweights like Manhoef but Kongo can't take him out. I'm done laying chalk on asian and most europeans
          manhoef is really the only guy to stop hunt like that... Despite that ko, I still think hunt has p4p one of the best chins in the game.
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          • gabe
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-12-11
            • 7405

            #775
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            Rogan's not only had an orgasm tonight but now is also crying as well! What a crazy range of emotions for him!
            what are u referring to?
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            • MMAbetMASTA
              SBR MVP
              • 05-24-11
              • 1931

              #776
              Originally posted by Kaladarus
              Edgar should have KO'd Rogan. The guy wins the belt and defends it 3 times, but doesn't deserve to be in the division any more. Not to mention his garbage commentating the whole fight.
              couldn't agree more man....
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              • Vitooch
                SBR MVP
                • 09-26-11
                • 3470

                #777
                Originally posted by JuicedUp
                frankie is too small for this div. Benson let him know tonight.
                Frankie's resume would say otherwise
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                • JuicedUp
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-20-10
                  • 3396

                  #778
                  Originally posted by Vitooch
                  Frankie's resume would say otherwise
                  too bad resumes can't fight.
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                  • Vitooch
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-26-11
                    • 3470

                    #779
                    Originally posted by JuicedUp
                    too bad resumes can't fight.
                    That doesn't make any sense.
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                    • Vitooch
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-26-11
                      • 3470

                      #780
                      Called Bader as a dog since the fight was announced. Rampage missing weight just gave me a little more confidence in my original prediction.

                      Okami killed everyone's parlays, but man was that a ******* awesome comeback. Love to see a fighter stun a whole crowd like that. Boetsch is a gamer man.
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                      • gabe
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-12-11
                        • 7405

                        #781
                        lol you better change the tag under your username

                        i am now 0-3 picking boetsch fights

                        Ring and Okami were still good plays in hindsight... Okami learns from every loss... after sonnen, he picked up wrestling, after Silva, high kicks..... wonder what there is to learn from this loss... i bet he just feels ashamed. okami should have won on paper, but even my gut was telling me the guy isn't a winner. i shoulda listened.
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                        • Vitooch
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-26-11
                          • 3470

                          #782
                          Okami must learn not to get punched in the face alot after dominating two rounds.
                          And I will change my caption to Cole Miller
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                          • gabe
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-12-11
                            • 7405

                            #783
                            Originally posted by Vitooch
                            Okami must learn not to get punched in the face alot after dominating two rounds. And I will change my caption to Cole Miller
                            lol he seems like an obvious win... man, siler looked impressive as hell in his last fight with his muay thai... that + his BJJ... i won't count him out... but cole miller is a beast, especially at 145... he should be like -500, i think. but value would be on siler.
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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #784
                              Originally posted by gabe
                              what are u referring to?
                              He orgasm'd over the Boetsch comeback, then when Henderson's KOrean mum was kissing his belt he said that has crying!
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                              • jeremyfoley1
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 02-15-12
                                • 2

                                #785
                                im pumped the judges finally wernt stupid!! franky shouldnt even be in a title fight gray maynard pretty much beat him twice but ufc has stupid judging why dont they just get smart judges who know what the hell there doing like my god ufc is rich as hell why this none profssional judges the fighters deserve that atleast for training there asses off
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                                • FightFightFight
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-21-11
                                  • 594

                                  #786
                                  Seriously though, I only come to this forum to find out how much money gabe lost or "won". ....oh, there we go. "saved" for the 8th? time. Good chasing again!
                                  Last edited by FightFightFight; 02-26-12, 12:18 PM.
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                                  • flickavic
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-23-10
                                    • 181

                                    #787
                                    Man o man what a crap night for me. Seems like I hit all my dog bets and lost my fav. Bets Edgar,Kongo,okami,the problem is my big bets were on the favs.o well. I had the option for the first time go bet live as I have a new book. I loved that and actually was up on that part ofthenight..it was fun but my bankroll took a 35% hit. Its cool tho,I believe well all bounce back.
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                                    • gabe
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-12-11
                                      • 7405

                                      #788
                                      Originally posted by FightFightFight
                                      Seriously though, I only come to this forum to find out how much money gabe lost or "won". ....oh, there we go. "saved" for the 8th? time. Good chasing again!
                                      Huh? Second time I've been in the hole big on a UFC card, but first time I dug myself out. (I did save myself at UFC 142-- I was down, but it wasn't nearly as bad)

                                      Shields saved me. Kongo losing and not going over 1.5 put me back in the hole, Jackson losing took me down a few more bucks (had the over 2.5, so not much,) but won huge on Bendo and over 4.5, so I came out nicely in the green. (play I made on Bendo ML was the biggest bet I've made so far this year, and one of my biggest all time bets)

                                      Only other time I chased by going all-in on a fight I wasn't that confident in (Jake Shields,) I ended up losing (Ben Rothwell,) so you don't know what you're talking about. Every time you speak to/about me, you're either kissing me ass or talking shit. Quit being a bitch.

                                      I don't get the purpose of your post. Are you trying to imply that I'm lying? I was posting my moves (pretty much just to share with vaughany) before the fights, so if Shields or Bendo had lost, I couldn't have "won"

                                      Still find it stupid and annoying that you unnecessarily talk sh*t like this. Pathetic fool.
                                      Last edited by gabe; 02-26-12, 12:48 PM.
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                                      • keyboarding
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-30-09
                                        • 6817

                                        #789
                                        It's unfortunate Edgar's camp put in time to teach him to catch the kicks but not to do anything when he had the position. No point catching the kick after it has done the damage and been scored if you aren't going to counter with a punch or takedown. Would have sealed the fight for Edgar as he caught over a dozen kicks. Imagine each of those were countered in some way, would have been a landslide victory.

                                        Clearly Edgar's corner put too much value into takedowns when all night the judges didn't seem to be scoring them as terribly important.

                                        Rogan's comments at the end of the fight were brutal. Telling a fighter who just lost his belt that he is too small for the division to compete (which is exactly what Rogan was implying) is fukking classless.
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                                        • gabe
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-12-11
                                          • 7405

                                          #790
                                          Did Rogan talk about the mom after the fight? Just watched the post fight interview and didn't catch his mom anywhere or Rogan crying
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                                          • FightFightFight
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 03-21-11
                                            • 594

                                            #791
                                            I assure you Ive never kissed your ass. Just enjoy giving you a hard time and was curious.
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                                            • gabe
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-12-11
                                              • 7405

                                              #792
                                              Originally posted by FightFightFight
                                              I assure you Ive never kissed your ass. Just enjoy giving you a hard time and was curious.
                                              I meant sometimes you're cool and other times you're a dick. I didn't mean like you were kissing my ass looking for a promotion lol

                                              But congrats, you did give me a hard time. In fact, I'm still erect.
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                                              • Hannibal
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-15-11
                                                • 1055

                                                #793
                                                damn i counted on kongo was too much. Thought he had all the tools to win..
                                                cant believe he came forward throwing punches at hunt...thought he would be moving back and throwing kicks until hunt faded a bit then takedown and gameover. Cant believe he didnt jump on him after hunt fell down from the first kick. Damn really thought kongo had this...mark came in fat as ever and trained only in new zealand
                                                i even covered most of my play withj hunt ko/tko @+450.... but last minute i greeded another $300 on kongo after his line dropped so much


                                                lesson learned: dont count on a fighter to execute a specific gameplan when he has demonstrated a lack of game planning in the past.
                                                I also gotta stop my favouritism of guys that i deem "real fighters"...guys that can put up massive damage quickly...but dont necessarily come to win fights..and are succeptible to point fighters. Recent example... diaz, rampage, kongo
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                                                • FightFightFight
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 03-21-11
                                                  • 594

                                                  #794
                                                  Yeah, I guess its just too easy to take cheap shots over the net, and I assume you're not being emotionally scarred by a computer screen. If you are, I'll stop.
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                                                  • FightFightFight
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-21-11
                                                    • 594

                                                    #795
                                                    Hell, all my friends and I do sometimes is cheap shot each other for that matter. But if they were to fly off the handle over it *coughs*, it would be even more fun.
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                                                    • keyboarding
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-30-09
                                                      • 6817

                                                      #796
                                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                                      Did Rogan talk about the mom after the fight? Just watched the post fight interview and didn't catch his mom anywhere or Rogan crying
                                                      It wasn't in the post-fight interview, it was afterwards when Henderson was walking into the locker room and his family were in the stands hugging him.
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                                                      • gabe
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-12-11
                                                        • 7405

                                                        #797
                                                        Originally posted by FightFightFight
                                                        Yeah, I guess its just too easy to take cheap shots over the net, and I assume you're not being emotionally scarred by a computer screen. If you are, I'll stop.
                                                        It's not about me, it's about everybody else. You post something like that and non-regulars + people new to the forum will believe you.
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                                                        • gabe
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-12-11
                                                          • 7405

                                                          #798
                                                          Originally posted by keyboarding
                                                          It wasn't in the post-fight interview, it was afterwards when Henderson was walking into the locker room and his family were in the stands hugging him.
                                                          Was that before the Tamura fight aired?
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                                                          • Vitooch
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-26-11
                                                            • 3470

                                                            #799
                                                            Gabe was Okami the reason why are were down initally and had to chase? If so, i feel your pain
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                                                            • gabe
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-12-11
                                                              • 7405

                                                              #800
                                                              Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                              Gabe was Okami the reason why are were down initally and had to chase? If so, i feel your pain
                                                              Mizugaki hurt me, Lee/Yamamoto o1.5 hurt me more, Hioki added to the pain... (Meanwhile, I was still up given my plays on Gomi, Lee, Fukuda, Fukuda/Cantwell o2.5, Tamura, and rest of my big wins in other sports over the week) Then Okami and the o2.5 tanked, killing over 90% of my parlays. That loss really took me in the negative. If Okami won by decision and Mizugaki got the rightful decision, I would have had one of the biggest nights ever.
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                                                              • Vitooch
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-26-11
                                                                • 3470

                                                                #801
                                                                Damn man Miz got robbed. MMAJunkie had the fight 30-27 Miz. I had a grand total of 40 SBR points on Miz and i was livid!
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                                                                • FightFightFight
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-21-11
                                                                  • 594

                                                                  #802
                                                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                                                  It's not about me, it's about everybody else. You post something like that and non-regulars + people new to the forum will believe you.
                                                                  You mean, they wont realize how awesome you are, and wont be able to benefit from your picks? Thaaaaats the ego I like to deflate. But you HAVE chased every time i've seen you down... Probably 3-4 times not 8.
                                                                  Last edited by FightFightFight; 02-26-12, 04:25 PM. Reason: Not derogatory enough
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                                                                  • Vaughany
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                                    • 45563

                                                                    #803
                                                                    Originally posted by gabe
                                                                    Did Rogan talk about the mom after the fight? Just watched the post fight interview and didn't catch his mom anywhere or Rogan crying
                                                                    After they left the octagon and Rogan and Goldie do their recap thing saying "What a great night blah blah blah" it showed Henderson on his way to the back stage area, high fiving Japs and shiit. Then Bendo went to his mum who was in the stands with family and hugged her and took photos and she was in hysterics. Rogan was like "Im seriously crying right now...this is beautiful!"
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                                                                    • gabe
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                                      • 7405

                                                                      #804
                                                                      Originally posted by FightFightFight
                                                                      But you HAVE chased every time i've seen you down... Probably 3-4 times not 8.
                                                                      Let me recall all the times I chased...

                                                                      UFC 135 -- Lost on Eddie Yagin, Nick Ring, and Rob Broughton... Chased with Ben Rothwell, and got screwed. But chased again with Koscheck and Jones and brought some of my losses back. But ultimately, I was in the hole.

                                                                      UFC 140 -- Went 2-5 in the prelims, so I was down huge by the main card. I chased with Korean Zombie at +525 or +535, cashed. Chased again with Lil Nog, Mir, and Jones, and brought all my losses back. Jones was my lock that night, so that one wasn't much of a chase.

                                                                      UFC 142 -- I was doing great until Rumble screwed me. I was down, so I chased with Jose Aldo and under 4.5, and they both hit. I was up again.

                                                                      and UFC 144


                                                                      OK, so there it is. What's the big deal? I don't think there's anything to take "cheap shots" at.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #805
                                                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                                                        Was that before the Tamura fight aired?
                                                                        Not sure, might of been cos the Tamura fight was short
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