Rumble gets Knockout of the Night bonus

gabe · 10-02-11, 12:59 AM

Also, I think Neer/Wisniewski shoulda got fight of the night... Danzig/Wiman was a good fight, but not as good.

gabe · 10-02-11, 01:01 AM

aand the only reason struve got submission of the night was 'cos he was on the main card... it was a great submission, but i think paul sass had the best of the night.

brooks85 · 10-02-11, 01:10 AM

lol that is ridiculous about kotn

GunShard · 10-02-11, 01:15 AM

That Johnson fight should have gone longer.

cheeese · 10-02-11, 02:13 AM

Yeah I feel like I got robbed on my Johnson by death prop.

FlashinLeather · 10-02-11, 09:41 AM

He wasn't knocked out but I still think it was a good stoppage, he didn't defend him self with his hands at his side trying to catch himself on the fence and ate a brutal high kick.

Beelzebubzy · 10-02-11, 10:19 AM

If the headkick didnt finish him off the punches to follow would have

gabe · 10-02-11, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by FlashinLeather

He wasn't knocked out but I still think it was a good stoppage, he didn't defend him self with his hands at his side trying to catch himself on the fence and ate a brutal high kick.

He wasn't defending himself in the first few seconds of the fight, either, when Rumble had him down and punching away... he wasn't defending the whole fight

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

If the headkick didnt finish him off the punches to follow would have

you can't say that. he was on the ground, where he wants to be. plus, he seemed fully conscious and aware after getting knocked down.

iQon · 10-02-11, 10:56 AM

Since when do you have to physically knock someone unconscious to get a knockout?

In the moment, it was the right judgement call by the ref. Brenneman looked bad before the kick. He was definitely out when it was stopped.

gabe · 10-02-11, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by iQon

Since when do you have to physically knock someone unconscious to get a knockout?

In the moment, it was the right judgement call by the ref. Brenneman looked bad before the kick. He was definitely out when it was stopped.

They don't have to be physically knocked out 100%, but they have to be in a position where they are unable to defend themselves, and Brenneman was fully capable of defending himself. He was on his elbows, in a position on the ground he feels more comfortable in than standing, and was fully conscious.

He looked bad the entire fight, not just before the kick, that doesn't mean he was going to get KO'd.

Chances are, he would have lost via stoppage if the fight continued, but the point is it should have continued.

sideloaded · 10-02-11, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by iQon

Since when do you have to physically knock someone unconscious to get a knockout?

In the moment, it was the right judgement call by the ref. Brenneman looked bad before the kick. He was definitely out when it was stopped.

So a knockout is hitting a guy hard now? Man that knockout Barry gave Kongo was awesome. STFU NOOB.

Poppa Catfish · 10-02-11, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by iQon

Since when do you have to physically knock someone unconscious to get a knockout?

In the moment, it was the right judgement call by the ref. Brenneman looked bad before the kick. He was definitely out when it was stopped.

iQon · 10-02-11, 01:24 PM

Yeah, that was simply Rumble hitting Charlie really hard. CB was just playing possum as he wobbled to his feet, took that kick on the chin, and fell limp on his ass.

People on this site are fuckin retarded. He was out! It's unfortunate that the fall woke Charlie up. It opens the floodgates to wrongly make the ref a scapegoat. Something people on the internet love doing.

But he was out during the stoppage. IMO, that's a stoppage via KO. Whether it goes down officially as a KO or TKO is irrelevant. They're both knockouts. How does either eliminate you from winning KOTN?

sideloaded · 10-02-11, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by iQon

Yeah, that was simply Rumble hitting Charlie really hard. CB was just playing possum as he wobbled to his feet, took that kick on the chin, and fell limp on his ass.

People on this site are fuckin retarded. He was out! It's unfortunate that the fall woke Charlie up. It opens the floodgates to wrongly make the ref a scapegoat. Something people on the internet love doing.

But he was out during the stoppage. IMO, that's a stoppage via KO. Whether it goes down officially as a KO or TKO is irrelevant. They're both knockouts. How does either eliminate you from winning KOTN?

lol the gif you posted made everything you said underneath completely wrong. That wasn't even a flash KO. You're the retarded one. Remeber when Frankie Edgar got "KO'd" three times in one round. Man Dana should have gave Gray 3 KOTN bonuses for that.

sideloaded · 10-02-11, 02:00 PM

Remember when Faber "KO'd" Cruz twice. Man those were awesome knockouts.

cheeese · 10-02-11, 02:20 PM

The ref's job is to protect the fighters. If he sees the fighter can't stand, is being held up by the fence and then is floored with an unabated kick to the head it's probably not a bad stoppage.

iQon · 10-02-11, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

lol the gif you posted made everything you said underneath completely wrong. That wasn't even a flash KO.

I now diagnose this patient with logontotheinternettalkoutofmyassonthefly desperatelyhopingtolooklikeiknowwhatiamt alkingabout-itis.

The gif's right there Bas Rutten... looks like a flash KO. Acts like a flash KO. Must be an omoplata. My bad.

Poppa Catfish · 10-02-11, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

Remember when Faber "KO'd" Cruz twice. Man those were awesome knockouts.

You are grasping at straws now, if I was a ref I would be stopping this argument now.

gabe · 10-02-11, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by iQon

I now diagnose this patient with logontotheinternettalkoutofmyassonthefly desperatelyhopingtolooklikeiknowwhatiamt alkingabout-itis.

The gif's right there Bas Rutten... looks like a flash KO. Acts like a flash KO. Must be an omoplata. My bad.

If THAT'S a flash KO then so was Barry against Kongo. Kongo was in worse shape than Brenneman.

sideloaded · 10-02-11, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

You are grasping at straws now, if I was a ref I would be stopping this argument now.

Thanks for adding your retarded commentary, but no one cares.

sideloaded · 10-02-11, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by iQon

I now diagnose this patient with logontotheinternettalkoutofmyassonthefly desperatelyhopingtolooklikeiknowwhatiamt alkingabout-itis.

The gif's right there Bas Rutten... looks like a flash KO. Acts like a flash KO. Must be an omoplata. My bad.

Oh so you're a babbling idiot. I get it.

sideloaded · 10-02-11, 05:41 PM

I just read the unified rules it clearly states "stop the fight if a guy is hit hard and it looks bad"

gabe · 10-02-11, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

I just read the unified rules it clearly states "stop the fight if a guy is hit hard and it looks bad"

It didn't look that bad. Kongo was hit harder and was in more danger and that fight wasn't stopped.

If this many people agree that it was stopped too soon, then it was stopped too soon.

cheeese · 10-02-11, 07:33 PM

Would anyone have argued if they stopped the Kongo fight? Yes the ref could have let it go but from his view how can you blame him for stopping it?

gabe · 10-03-11, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by cheeese

Would anyone have argued if they stopped the Kongo fight? Yes the ref could have let it go but from his view how can you blame him for stopping it?

They have to give the fighters every chance. That is why they say "fight back" a few times before stopping fights. Gotta give the guy every chance to fight back or get out of the sticky situation.

Rumble looked so dominating that it's very likely he would have won that fight one way or another, but he should have been allowed to receive a legit KO instead of something half-assed.