is belcher vs macdonald a tko or submission?

Kaladarus · 09-17-11, 10:03 PM

should be yes

v1y · 09-17-11, 10:06 PM

5dimes says tko, and i pray they do not change their mind

Vaughany · 09-17-11, 10:12 PM

My Belcher by TKO/KO play has been graded as a win on Sportbet (and rightly so I should say!)

Vaughany · 09-17-11, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by v1y

5dimes says tko, and i pray they do not change their mind

ha yeah surely they can't just back-track and cancel it out?!

v1y · 09-17-11, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

ha yeah surely they can't just back-track and cancel it out?!

yes they can, but only if someone alerts them to it i figure lol.

i alerted them once to an incorrect grading and tony personally gave me a $50 free play.

Kaladarus · 09-17-11, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

ha yeah surely they can't just back-track and cancel it out?!

They can and they probably will unless nobody bet Belcher by submission and nobody notifies them. The ref did announce it as a verbal submission due to punches. I would be surprised if 5dimes doesn't change this, but seeing as a few people need it to stay I hope they don't change the grading. According to 5dimes MMA rules this should be graded as a submission.

Kaladarus · 09-17-11, 10:20 PM

Yes, v1y is right. Someone's got to notify them otherwise they wont figure it out. Belcher by sub does seem like a stupid bet, but if someone had it they had good odds on it and will probably notify them.

Vaughany · 09-17-11, 10:27 PM

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

terpkeg · 09-20-11, 07:49 PM

Just noticed DSI changed my play. What a kick in the balls, Macdonald really verbally submitted? WTF, where is the ref stopping that shit anyway.

Atleast I noticed this now, would have been a real bitch reconciling my books at the end of the month. Never would have figured it out.

The HOFF · 09-21-11, 02:56 PM

This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.

varkolek · 09-22-11, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.

Yeah I lost a fair bit betting on Sadollah to KO Johnson. In this instance, I bet on Belcher-Macdonald under 1.5 rounds so was safe.

terpkeg · 09-22-11, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.

Yeah, if guy doesnt get off stool, it is a tko.

bogbat · 09-22-11, 03:46 PM

fuckers only ever change it if it is in their favor. A few of us had Griggs by submission over V. Overeem at +1200 but of they graded it a TKO even though he tapped.

Chairib · 09-22-11, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.

Nope, he submitted to strikes. There's a big difference from a ref stopping and a fighter tapping due to strikes.