Ben Henderson vs Clay Guida Nov. 12

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  • Chairib
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    • 03-08-10
    • 917

    #1
    Ben Henderson vs Clay Guida Nov. 12
    they'll be on the Fox card
  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #2
    Great fight and will be all over Henderson
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    • Chairib
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      • 03-08-10
      • 917

      #3
      The winner of this fight has to get a shot at the title don't you think?
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #4
        Would have to think so, but I guess Guillard is going to have something to say about that if he beats Lauzon.
        I think Guida will drop to 145 if he loses to Henderson
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        • Beelzebubzy
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-06-11
          • 6995

          #5
          Originally posted by Vaughany
          Would have to think so, but I guess Guillard is going to have something to say about that if he beats Lauzon. I think Guida will drop to 145 if he loses to Henderson
          I agree with this.
          I do not see how Bendo loses this fight.
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          • Vaughany
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            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #6
            CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!?

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            • Chairib
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 03-08-10
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              #7
              Do you expect Jesus to miracle his ass to a win?
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              • Vaughany
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                • 03-07-10
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                #8
                Originally posted by Chairib
                Do you expect Jesus to miracle his ass to a win?
                ha the Lord Almighty is within Hendo!
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                • sirchadwick1
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-02-10
                  • 1375

                  #9
                  On Bendo here as well... his stock is probably at an all time high right now, but so is Guida's. Will be interesting to see the lines on this one. I'm hoping to get Bendo at -160 give or take.
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                  • rocky mattioli
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-26-10
                    • 1263

                    #10
                    does look like a bad match-up for guida.....henderson`s wrestling and strong base(those legs are like trees) put a one dimensional guida in with a guy that may do what guida does better than guida...and with cardio to match....
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                    • Chairib
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                      • 03-08-10
                      • 917

                      #11
                      I don't think you can call Guida one dimensional any more. He recently tapped Gomi with a guillotine choke and broke dos Anjos' jaw with a punch.
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                      • bjpenn85
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-17-11
                        • 5059

                        #12
                        a lucky wild punch. he probably didn't notice as his eyes was covered with sweaty hair . I'm super serial.
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                        • Chairib
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                          • 03-08-10
                          • 917

                          #13
                          Lucky or not the fact he was throwing punches would tell you he's not one dimensional.
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                          • The HOFF
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-02-08
                            • 4847

                            #14
                            Absolute F***ing shame this is a preliminary fight. How they hell can Dana put this on the Fox card with it most likely being a facebook fight. Only the JDS Cain fight will be on Fox. This should be the main event of a smaller card or co-main of a PPV.
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                            • NunyaBidness
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                              • 07-26-09
                              • 9345

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chairib
                              Lucky or not the fact he was throwing punches would tell you he's not one dimensional.
                              So, Hardy's takedown in his last fight makes him well-rounded?
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                              • Chairib
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-08-10
                                • 917

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NunyaBidness

                                So, Hardy's takedown in his last fight makes him well-rounded?
                                You know fighters have the ability to add to their skill set, it's part of what makes MMA interesting. Of course, the average fan can't recognize when a new technique has been added to someone's arsenal. Especially when we're talking about grappling, positional awareness, or even understanding how to stay in your opponent's guard without getting tapped or swept.

                                Also calling a fighter well rounded, is something quite different from saying that fighter is not one dimensional any more.
                                Last edited by Chairib; 09-07-11, 01:17 AM.
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                                • omalley21
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-08-10
                                  • 908

                                  #17
                                  Guida has definitely come a long way. I wouldn't call him 1 dimensional anymore. I like Bendo here but wouldn't be shocked if guida wins the decision.
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                                  • Beelzebubzy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-06-11
                                    • 6995

                                    #18
                                    Bendo stright (guida has been tapped out)
                                    Guida via Decision
                                    seems like the best hedging play. I think Guida has a chance here. Bendo gives up his back alot
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                                    • brooks85
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 44709

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Chairib
                                      You know fighters have the ability to add to their skill set, it's part of what makes MMA interesting. Of course, the average fan can't recognize when a new technique has been added to someone's arsenal. Especially when we're talking about grappling, positional awareness, or even understanding how to stay in your opponent's guard without getting tapped or swept.

                                      Also calling a fighter well rounded, is something quite different from saying that fighter is not one dimensional any more.

                                      stop trying to hide the fact you are an idiot


                                      "i don't think you can call guida one-dimensional anymore..""


                                      ya I guess you can also say the sky isn't blue or the sun isn't hot... dumbass
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                                      • Vaughany
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                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                        Bendo stright (guida has been tapped out)
                                        Guida via Decision
                                        seems like the best hedging play. I think Guida has a chance here. Bendo gives up his back alot
                                        Yeah I'll probably end up doing that to be safe.
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                                        • Vaughany
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                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #21
                                          As long as Henderson looks for takedowns and doesnt just go in there to keep it standing and strike he should be fine. Florian was able to take Guida down with ease, so I certainly think a bigger and better wrestler in Henderson can do it
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                                          • Wrecked
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-31-11
                                            • 887

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by brooks85


                                            stop trying to hide the fact you are an idiot


                                            "i don't think you can call guida one-dimensional anymore..""


                                            ya I guess you can also say the sky isn't blue or the sun isn't hot... dumbass
                                            Agreed
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                                            • Chairib
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                                              • 03-08-10
                                              • 917

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by brooks85


                                              stop trying to hide the fact you are an idiot


                                              "i don't think you can call guida one-dimensional anymore..""


                                              ya I guess you can also say the sky isn't blue or the sun isn't hot... dumbass
                                              Keep crying maybe one day you'll actually be relevant here.
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                                              • Chairib
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 03-08-10
                                                • 917

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Wrecked

                                                Agreed
                                                Really bitch you're going to start up again? What was that you said about Lytle? Oh here let me remind you:

                                                Originally Posted by Wrecked
                                                Lytle sucks and anyone skeptical about Hardy loosing needs to come back to the real world.


                                                That one worked out for you didn't it?
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                                                • brooks85
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 44709

                                                  #25
                                                  lol wait.. do you actually think you are relevant here.?

                                                  maybe you forget about this pathetic attempt

                                                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                  its too bad gsp/diaz was cancelled, im sure the forum could have used another 5+ paragraph breakdown of his matchup... you clown






                                                  "i don't think you can call guida one-dimensional anymore.."
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                                                  • Chairib
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-08-10
                                                    • 917

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    lol wait.. do you actually think you are relevant here.?

                                                    maybe you forget about this pathetic attempt

                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                    its too bad gsp/diaz was cancelled, im sure the forum could have used another 5+ paragraph breakdown of his matchup... you clown






                                                    "i don't think you can call guida one-dimensional anymore.."
                                                    Again, maybe one day you'll actually be relevant here. You've been nothing but my personal jizz mop since I've arrived here. Your posts reek of fanboy bullshit and someone with a fragile ego. I understand you find me threatening, it's easy to see why. Unlike you, I've actually had training, moreover I'm capable of analysis that comprises more than just a few rambling sentences and some emoticons. Come to think of it, I don't recall you ever writing anything remotely interesting or even worth remembering. Your posts are worthless. You are worthless.

                                                    The sad thing is you have zero experience or knowledge about any martial art. Of course you've got such a fragile ego that you'll never admit to it, or ever put yourself into a position where you'll learn something new.

                                                    So it'll be the same old redundant attention seeking behavior from scared little Brooks. Keep on trying kid, maybe one day you'll actually feel better about yourself.
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                                                    • brooks85
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                      • 44709

                                                      #27
                                                      lol classic

                                                      the educated come back, nicely executed chairib. Notice all the sentences because you clearly care what people here think about you... how sad... Posting on a gambling forum because no one else cares what you have to say...

                                                      too bad it still doesn't change anything i've said or you have said

                                                      "i don't think you can call guida one-dimensional anymore..""

                                                      you are a clown
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                                                      • brooks85
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 44709

                                                        #28
                                                        enter a handicapping contest so you can prove it

                                                        stop hiding
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                                                        • Wrecked
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-31-11
                                                          • 887

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Chairib
                                                          Dan Hardy vs Chris Lytle

                                                          I see Hardy by decision. But there are a number of things that really kind of make this fight a toss up for me.

                                                          I still have a lot of questions about Chris' knee and how it's effected his ability to train. But I have equally as many worries about Dan Hardy right now. Is he technically the better striker? Yes, Dan throws combinations, punches are straighter, and his hand speed is also blistering fast. But there is a large and rather significant hole in his stand up defense that should really be cause for worry.

                                                          When you watch Hardy strike, he routinely drops his right hand after throwing any kind of strike. He should be keeping his right hand in the guard position protecting his jaw but it's always lose and open. It's been that way since his first fight in the UFC against Akihiro Gono. A fight that I'm still having a hard time figuring out how exactly Dan won. Regardless, Gono was able to land that left against Hardy all fight long. And as much as Lytle's style can be exploited by a counter puncher. Hardy is in just as much danger for getting dropped by a counter left hook in any of his fights. By the way, can you guess how Condit KO'd Dan?

                                                          Chris Lytle is the better wrestler and grappler. If he wanted to play it safe, no doubt that he could just take Dan down and grind out a decision win or even catch him with a sub. Chris is that good on the ground. But Chris hasn't been a "safe" fighter since the judges robbed him of a victory at the TUF finale against Matt Serra. He went through a clear style change after that loss by becoming much more aggressive than he had ever been before. His traditional boxing style went out the window, combinations were soon replaced with a mean overhand right. He would put everything into his punches and it was clear he was trying knock the other guy's head clean off. This type of super aggressive brawling style resembled something you would see from Chuck Liddell or Wanderlei Silva.

                                                          Like I said his style is open and aggressive, so there's not a whole lot of defense. He's almost going into these exchanges looking to get hit, just as long as he can land shots of is own. He was beating Thiago when the doctors called the fight due a cut. Chris sustained a cut right over his eye early and first round and the doctors subsequently called the fight in between rounds 2 and 3. That fight with Paul Taylor? It was close with Paul Taylor probably landing more strikes but Chris' shots were far more effective. That's the difference between striking in boxing and striking in MMA.

                                                          While this style may be exciting it is kind of easy to gameplan for. All Davis did was counter Lytle's overhand right. It's probably the closest thing standing up striking has to the wrestlers lay and pray. Smart strategy and I can't blame the guy for taking what Chris is giving him but he didn't do anything but play keep away. Does Dan Hardy have the same kind of luxury? Dan's got to win and win decisively here if he wants to stay in the UFC.
                                                          Originally posted by Chairib

                                                          Really bitch you're going to start up again? What was that you said about Lytle? Oh here let me remind you:

                                                          Originally Posted by Wrecked
                                                          Lytle sucks and anyone skeptical about Hardy loosing needs to come back to the real world.


                                                          That one worked out for you didn't it?
                                                          Worked greatly for you to?
                                                          You little bitch, post your plays and stop hiding like a little pussy. The fact is you don't even make plays, you come on here as-if it were sherdog. Go back to sherdog you little bitch or make some plays and quit acting like a boss.
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                                                          • Chairib
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 03-08-10
                                                            • 917

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Wrecked



                                                            Worked greatly for you to?
                                                            You little bitch, post your plays and stop hiding like a little pussy. The fact is you don't even make plays, you come on here as-if it were sherdog. Go back to sherdog you little bitch or make some plays and quit acting like a boss.
                                                            Who is hiding like a pussy? You are weak and stupid much like Brooks. Both you have no balls, desperately need attention, and totally predictable in your response.

                                                            That dirty whore you called mommy should have flushed you down the toilet the day she shit you out.
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                                                            • Wrecked
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 05-31-11
                                                              • 887

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Chairib

                                                              Who is hiding like a pussy? You are weak and stupid much like Brooks. Both you have no balls, desperately need attention, and totally predictable in your response.

                                                              That dirty whore you called mommy should have flushed you down the toilet the day she shit you out.
                                                              Lol, post some wins from your book or gtfo.
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                                                              • Chairib
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-08-10
                                                                • 917

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Wrecked

                                                                Lol, post some wins from your book or gtfo.
                                                                Post some pics of that dirty whore you call mom or gtfo.
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                                                                • Wrecked
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 05-31-11
                                                                  • 887

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Chairib

                                                                  Post some pics of that dirty whore you call mom or gtfo.

                                                                  go back to sherdog pussy.
                                                                  you don't have any money.
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                                                                  • Chairib
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 03-08-10
                                                                    • 917

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Wrecked


                                                                    go back to sherdog pussy.
                                                                    you don't have any money.
                                                                    That's the best response you have? Again you are weak and responses are predictable. Maybe one day you'll actually have an original thought come out of that little brain of yours.

                                                                    Grow some balls kid.
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                                                                    • Wrecked
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 05-31-11
                                                                      • 887

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Chairib

                                                                      That's the best response you have? Again you are weak and responses are predictable. Maybe one day you'll actually have an original thought come out of that little brain of yours.

                                                                      Grow some balls kid.
                                                                      Grow some balls and put some money down on some of your picks you poor pussy.
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