Matt Mitrione set to face Kongo at UFC 137

**RaiderNation MMA** · 07-14-11, 11:14 PM

good fight. good match making by joe silva. he finally got it right. no clue who wins tho.

**GunShard** · 07-14-11, 11:18 PM

Sounds good.

**Kaladarus** · 07-14-11, 11:26 PM

Kongo isn't really much of a step up. Mitrione is better and I wouldn't be surprised if he opened as a favorite here.

**Jordan23** · 07-14-11, 11:27 PM

Kongo can take Matt down and probably use some GNP

**capone1899** · 07-14-11, 11:46 PM

I like Matt here, wonder what the line will be?

**Wrecked** · 07-14-11, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Jordan23

Kongo can take Matt down and probably use some GNP

Lol wishful thinking much?
Kongo is going to try to throw hands with Meat-head, but I believe Matt is going to win via TKO.
Easy fight to call imo, I don't see Kongo taking it to the ground at all, and Kongo has a week chin, and Matt has put his hands on display.

**Shafted69** · 07-14-11, 11:51 PM

Hard to say who, but I will definitely be betting on this b/c I am an addict.

**iQon** · 07-15-11, 02:03 AM

Wait, does that say CROCOP?

Against Roy Nelson?

Gambling Gods, you're too kind.

**tankman777** · 07-15-11, 02:18 AM

mitrione will destroy kongo

**sirchadwick1** · 07-15-11, 05:47 AM

I give Mitrione the edge as the better all around fighter... but Kongo is definitely a step up from the guys he's been fighting. I'll take the dog in this one if they end up anywhere around +150.

**sportsfanatic** · 07-15-11, 06:05 AM

i'm still bitter over my pat barry loss. hope mitrione destroys kongo.

**Ladle** · 07-15-11, 06:16 AM

Considering the way the Barry fight went down, I think we see Kongo go into ultra wrestling mode here. Wouldn't feel good betting on him as the favourite though, given Mitrione's power and fleetness of foot.

**Straight Cash** · 07-15-11, 06:17 AM

Should be a pretty solid fight.

**koscheckbaby** · 07-15-11, 08:04 AM

To be honest, I think Kongo is a MUUUUCH better striker. Mitrione is athletic, but he's very sloppy and almost arrogant in his standup, keeping his hands low and throwing some really flat flooted strikes at points. He's so open to counters and his chin is asking to be checked. Perhaps that's due to the fact his last few opponents weren't a threat to him standing or his inexperience. But I just think Kongo is a little more than he can chew at this point. Joey Beltran rocked him a few fights ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Kongo finishes the job. And why couldn't Kongo keep his distance and kick the shit out of Meat? I'm not convinced Mitrione would be able to effectively check some hard leg kicks or take some brutal body kicks.

With that said, I don't trust Kongo much after that Barry almost disaster and would step lightly.

**Vaughany** · 07-15-11, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

To be honest, I think Kongo is a MUUUUCH better striker. Mitrione is athletic, but he's very sloppy and almost arrogant in his standup, keeping his hands low and throwing some really flat flooted strikes at points. He's so open to counters and his chin is asking to be checked. Perhaps that's due to the fact his last few opponents weren't a threat to him standing or his inexperience. But I just think Kongo is a little more than he can chew at this point. Joey Beltran rocked him a few fights ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Kongo finishes the job. And why couldn't Kongo keep his distance and kick the shit out of Meat? I'm not convinced Mitrione would be able to effectively check some hard leg kicks or take some brutal body kicks.

With that said, I don't trust Kongo much after that Barry almost disaster and would step lightly.

Yeah no doubt this is a step up for Mitrione. I dont think anybody could argue that Kongo wouldn't beat Morecraft, Hague, Beltran, Kimbo and The Darkness just as comfortably. Only two of those guys are still in the UFC and they bottom level. Be interesting to see who the dog is and how the line moves.

**koscheckbaby** · 07-15-11, 09:16 AM

Would you say Mitrione is easier to wrestlehump than Barry? I was just thinking of how Morecraft, who was beat to shit, got Mitrione down. Mitrione just doesn't seem to have the balance to stop doublelegs without being put on his ass. Kongo can likely get him down easier than Barry. Barry had more success stopping Beltran's takedowns than Meat did.

**Vaughany** · 07-15-11, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Would you say Mitrione is easier to wrestlehump than Barry? I was just thinking of how Morecraft, who was beat to shit, got Mitrione down. Mitrione just doesn't seem to have the balance to stop doublelegs without being put on his ass. Kongo can likely get him down easier than Barry. Barry had more success stopping Beltran's takedowns than Meat did.

Yeah maybe but Mitrione is quite composed and good at getting back to his feet once down.

**GoldRush7** · 07-15-11, 09:41 AM

Mitrione is going to knock kongo the fuk out!

**Ladle** · 07-15-11, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Would you say Mitrione is easier to wrestlehump than Barry? I was just thinking of how Morecraft, who was beat to shit, got Mitrione down. Mitrione just doesn't seem to have the balance to stop doublelegs without being put on his ass. Kongo can likely get him down easier than Barry. Barry had more success stopping Beltran's takedowns than Meat did.

Mitrione was also taken down by Kimbo and a dying Marcus Jones. His constant movement makes him difficult to grab hold of, but the fact still stands that whenever his defensive wrestling has been tested, he's been put on his back.

That said, maybe training under the tutelage of Tom Erikkson will start paying off soon. He couldn't really find a better instructor in that capacity.

**koscheckbaby** · 07-15-11, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yeah maybe but Mitrione is quite composed and good at getting back to his feet once down.

Did he get back to get feet against Morecraft? I thought the ref stood them up. I know against Beltran, he was in some trouble prior to the round stopped. I was very disappointed. I figured after how active he was versus Kimbo that he'd be threatening Beltran if it did went down. He got pounded on. Morecraft passed too, I BELIEVE. Can't believe I'm vague on a fight that just happened.

I just think Mitrione has too many weaknesses at this point for Kongo.

**Vaughany** · 07-15-11, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Did he get back to get feet against Morecraft? I thought the ref stood them up. I know against Beltran, he was in some trouble prior to the round stopped. I was very disappointed. I figured after how active he was versus Kimbo that he'd be threatening Beltran if it did went down. He got pounded on. Morecraft passed too, I BELIEVE. Can't believe I'm vague on a fight that just happened.

I just think Mitrione has too many weaknesses at this point for Kongo.

Yeah by no means do I think he is some sort of ground wizard - he probly did struggle against Beltran and Morecraft, and clearly is still very raw. But I'd think that he's probably better on his back than Evensen, Buentello, Al-Turk and probably even Hardonk - the guys that had trouble when Kongo was on top of them.

**koscheckbaby** · 07-15-11, 11:08 AM

Yeah. Royce Gracie has to be embarrassed that he ever gave a belt to turtle Hardonk

**v1y** · 07-15-11, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Kongo isn't really much of a step up. Mitrione is better and I wouldn't be surprised if he opened as a favorite here.

You don't think kongo is a step up from morecraft, beltran, hague, and kimbo. Are we in the same universe?

**spargament** · 07-15-11, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Shafted69

Hard to say who, but I will definitely be betting on this b/c I am an addict.

honesty FTW

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I think Kongo is gonna be in a nice spot to place a wager on if he opens at anything more favorable than +150, ideally everyone hops on the Mitrione bandwagon and I can get it at +200 or better...Mitrione really impressed me with his improvement from match to match, and I thought his 'deliberateness' in his last fight was very impressive (when he wants to turn it up, he turns it up,at the right times), but I got a strange feeling about this.....which is subject to change

**koscheckbaby** · 07-15-11, 12:01 PM

Kongo has to be a favorite in the -150 to -225 area, right? I mean, Meat is an impressive prospect. But he's just that. A prospect. People seem to think Mitrione will be the favorite. I don't see it.

**Pabinator** · 07-15-11, 12:02 PM

Great Card.

Matt has been looking good, this surely is his toughest apponent to date

**spargament** · 07-15-11, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Kongo has to be a favorite in the -150 to -225 area, right? I mean, Meat is an impressive prospect. But he's just that. A prospect. People seem to think Mitrione will be the favorite. I don't see it.

I think that's the REALITY of the situation, but given that in the same time span Meat rolled off all 5 of his pro fights and has gone undefeated (albeit against a much lower level of competition than Kongo has faced), Kongo has 2 wins, 2 losses and a draw, and he really doesn't have a top level win his entire career...who's the BEST guy he's beaten in his entire career? Either Barry (not elite), Buentello, or a washed-up Cro Cop (who I'm assuming will get eaten alive no pun intended against Roy Nelson)...I really wouldn't be surprised to see Mitrione open as a favorite...

**Fiasco01** · 07-15-11, 01:49 PM

Yeah I think Kongo will be a little more tentative with the striking here...if he watches any tape he'll know he can exploit Mitrione on the ground...the question will be if his cardio can last long enough to break or at least frustrate Mitrione. I can see Kongo getting gassed trying to control Matt on the ground and then falling hard. Either way should be a great fight and ridiculous card.

**sirchadwick1** · 07-15-11, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Kongo has to be a favorite in the -150 to -225 area, right? I mean, Meat is an impressive prospect. But he's just that. A prospect. People seem to think Mitrione will be the favorite. I don't see it.

I think it will be a pretty close line.... if Kongo is a fav around -225 then I won't hesitate to lay my $ on Meathead at around +180.... and probably a hefty sum.

If I had to guess the lines on this one I'd go with
Kongo -140
Meathead +120

**spargament** · 07-15-11, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Kongo -140 Meathead +120

The more I think about the way opening lines have looked these days, I wouldn't be surprised if this was very close to being the exact opener...it's very difficult for me to separate what I think the line should be from what it will be when it opens. Obviously having such a defined idea of the skill disparity makes it easier to find value in lines once they're up, but predicting what essentially amounts to a prediction of the public perception in MMA is tricky.

I'd guess -145/+125

**freelee** · 07-15-11, 09:34 PM

I think Kongo takes this in a stand up war

**GoldRush7** · 07-15-11, 11:10 PM

rolling with meathead and the +odds all day

**GunShard** · 07-16-11, 04:53 AM

No play for me. Bad spot to bet on.

**danso** · 07-16-11, 06:24 AM

Solid fight card. Hopefully no injuries or last minute replacements change this.