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  • terpkeg
    SBR MVP
    • 10-26-09
    • 2364

    #1
    Anyone think Werdum won the fight?
    The fact that he kept flopping to his back cost him the fight. I thought he actually did more damage on the feet and half the fight was played in his guard. However, he never really threatened.
  • Squareguy
    SBR Sharp
    • 12-30-10
    • 481

    #2
    I don't know, Sherdog hasn't updated the third round yet to show me who won...oh..

    Anyways, I'm betting on him meeting Barnett in the finals. Hope Barnett is the dog.
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    • FlashinLeather
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-04-11
      • 573

      #3
      Overeem controlled the fight and did the most damage.
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      • Kaladarus
        SBR MVP
        • 11-11-09
        • 1876

        #4
        If Werdum wants the fight on the ground he can learn to do a takedown.
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        • JuicedUp
          SBR MVP
          • 01-20-10
          • 3396

          #5
          Originally posted by terpkeg
          The fact that he kept flopping to his back cost him the fight.
          As it should. Werdum fought like a beotch.
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          • FindTheLock
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-27-10
            • 7194

            #6
            Werdum was resting up during the fight because he thought it started at a later time? It looked like he wanted to take a nap out there. How many times did he take himself down and lay there? Then he took forever to get up. If the judges rewarded him tonight do you realize how many rule changes would need to take place? Imagine if every fight ended like that. That was pathetic.
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            • rocky mattioli
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              • 08-26-10
              • 1263

              #7
              overeem was exposed...werdum punched him around the ring like he was a haeavy bag.....he`s so musclebound and slow it`s scary....

              i always thought that k-1 was a tad overrated....now i know it for certain...

              i shudder to think what dos santos would do to overeem....

              looping right hands...one at a time....wide....

              this is the great striker?...his hand speed was nil....
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              • sirchadwick1
                SBR MVP
                • 06-02-10
                • 1375

                #8
                No. Ubereem did just enough to win it with the few takedowns, overall control, and the bigger shots.
                But to me it came across as a mutual deal by both guys to cash in on a decision bet.
                Not saying it happened... but neither fighter impressed.

                AO's stock drops after this showing and I'll happily bet against him in his next fights given the right line.
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                • thesox0311
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 01-23-10
                  • 365

                  #9
                  I would cut Werdum after that performance, it was embarrassing. I cannot believe what i just saw. I hope people dont hate on Reem, its kind of hard to finish someone when they just lay on the ground and refuse to fight.
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                  • Ladle
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-21-11
                    • 835

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                    overeem was exposed...werdum punched him around the ring like he was a haeavy bag.....he`s so musclebound and slow it`s scary....

                    i always thought that k-1 was a tad overrated....now i know it for certain...

                    i shudder to think what dos santos would do to overeem....

                    looping right hands...one at a time....wide....

                    this is the great striker?...his hand speed was nil....
                    I agree. Looked very, very lethargic after the first round and was consistently getting tagged whenever Werdum came forward with punches. Gotta believe that Cain Velasquez would trample him.
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                    • Kaladarus
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-11-09
                      • 1876

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FindTheLock
                      Werdum was resting up during the fight because he thought it started at a later time? It looked like he wanted to take a nap out there. How many times did he take himself down and lay there? Then he took forever to get up. If the judges rewarded him tonight do you realize how many rule changes would need to take place? Imagine if every fight ended like that. That was pathetic.
                      He wore his pajamas to the cage.
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                      • rocky mattioli
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-26-10
                        • 1263

                        #12
                        Originally posted by thesox0311
                        I would cut Werdum after that performance, it was embarrassing. I cannot believe what i just saw. I hope people dont hate on Reem, its kind of hard to finish someone when they just lay on the ground and refuse to fight.

                        overeeem looked worse than werdum...if he wasn`t so roided up and super strong,he`d have nothing except knees....


                        he can`t throw a combination....he`s got a suspect gastank....

                        in short,he got beaten on the feet by a guy that was totally gassed...he loses a 5 round fight...

                        if this is the great overeeem,we`ve all been hoodwinked...
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                        • FindTheLock
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-27-10
                          • 7194

                          #13
                          I agree cain or JDS would most likely win, but let's be fair to overeem. At least he wanted to fight. Werdum was just taking advantage of the clock trying to survive out there. He wanted no part of reem once he realized he couldn't get top control or even a take down. Reem looked slow and reminded me of that bob sapp guy from years ago. did anyone else think of Bob sapp when u saw this fight tonight?
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                          • thesox0311
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 01-23-10
                            • 365

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rocky mattioli


                            overeeem looked worse than werdum...if he wasn`t so roided up and super strong,he`d have nothing except knees....



                            he can`t throw a combination....he`s got a suspect gastank....

                            in short,he got beaten on the feet by a guy that was totally gassed...he loses a 5 round fight...

                            if this is the great overeeem,we`ve all been hoodwinked...
                            Not saying reem look good, but werdum wins a 5 round fight? Did you watch that fight? Werdum refused to even stand up after the breaks. It was a ******* joke.
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                            • rocky mattioli
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-26-10
                              • 1263

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ladle
                              I agree. Looked very, very lethargic after the first round and was consistently getting tagged whenever Werdum came forward with punches. Gotta believe that Cain Velasquez would trample him.

                              velasquez would hit him with a 5 punch combo,then throw him on his head.....

                              i`m honestly shocked...and disappointed...

                              maybe something was wrong?
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                              • sirchadwick1
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-02-10
                                • 1375

                                #16
                                Originally posted by FindTheLock
                                Reem looked slow and reminded me of that bob sapp guy from years ago. did anyone else think of Bob sapp when u saw this fight tonight?
                                Yeah actually he does remind me a bit of Sapp in that he's huge, throws bombs, moves awkwardly, and has knees that turn a bit. Funny you mentioned that!
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                  overeeem looked worse than werdum...if he wasn`t so roided up and super strong,he`d have nothing except knees....


                                  he can`t throw a combination....he`s got a suspect gastank....

                                  in short,he got beaten on the feet by a guy that was totally gassed...he loses a 5 round fight...

                                  if this is the great overeeem,we`ve all been hoodwinked...
                                  Him being so big is what made me hedge my big play on Overeem by TKO/decision. When u are that muscular the chances of gassing are always going to be higher. Also, I was concerned about if he did end up on his back it would be harder for him to butt-scoot or just get up in general due to his huge frame! Finally, your right, his combinations aren't that great for a K1 fighter, think he is perhaps head-hunting nowadays due to the power he possesses.
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                                  • Nick The Greek
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-31-09
                                    • 189

                                    #18
                                    Didn't think Werdum won it, but I was worried that the judges might somehow think he won it. Thankfully they didn't and my Overeem-Barnett parlay came through big.
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                      overeem was exposed...werdum punched him around the ring like he was a haeavy bag.....he`s so musclebound and slow it`s scary....

                                      i always thought that k-1 was a tad overrated....now i know it for certain...

                                      i shudder to think what dos santos would do to overeem....

                                      looping right hands...one at a time....wide....

                                      this is the great striker?...his hand speed was nil....
                                      Ghita and Gokhan Saki are superior - as I've always said I really wanna see Overeem face a Gokhan Saki who doesnt have a broken rib cage and broken arm!
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                                      • bogbat
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-21-10
                                        • 1843

                                        #20
                                        I thought Werdum won the 3rd round. Very uninspiring fight by Overeem, I think Werdum threw him off his game by pulling guard over and over.
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                                        • terpkeg
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-26-09
                                          • 2364

                                          #21
                                          I thought Werdum definitely won the third. I think he hurt his knee in the 2nd after he landed a nice series of punches and Reem looked like he was a bit hurt, Werdum went down akwardly and after that he seemed to have a hard time getting up. I took Werdum live betting at +2000 in third thinking there was actually a chance he took the first as well. I'd have to see the numbers, but I think that Werdum outstruck Overeem in every round. The ground was a wash. It was just Werdums pathelic attempts to pull guard forn the majority of the fight that made him look like shit out there.
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                                          • ghost kid
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 09-23-08
                                            • 280

                                            #22
                                            29-28 Reem.
                                            First two rounds Alistair, last round Werdum.
                                            Can't award Werdum for the behavior in the first two rounds. It was 2 to zero going into the third.
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                                            • Jordan23
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-26-10
                                              • 1227

                                              #23
                                              Well I believe if Werdum wasn't laying down half the fight then Overeem would have gotten the knockout. Werdum did what he had to do to survive I guess
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                                              • lasker
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-27-10
                                                • 1683

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Jordan23
                                                Well I believe if Werdum wasn't laying down half the fight then Overeem would have gotten the knockout. Werdum did what he had to do to survive I guess
                                                exactly.

                                                Overeem said in his pre-fight interviews that if Werdum came to fight he would knock Werdum out in the first round, but that if he didn't come to fight it would take longer. It seems he suspected what Werdum's gameplan was.
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                                                • chris010
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 06-11-11
                                                  • 9

                                                  #25
                                                  Werdum's baiting tactic pissed me off. BJJ guys really need to work on their wrestling and secure takedowns if they want to stay relevant. The Brazilian arrogance that one style can trump all is simply not true anymore.
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                                                  • RaiderNation MMA
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-05-10
                                                    • 598

                                                    #26
                                                    nah reem!
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                                                    • v1y
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                                                      • 05-02-11
                                                      • 1138

                                                      #27
                                                      seeing as overeem scored about 15 takedowns (are you saying those wouldn't be counted as takedowns in wrestling? if it's adcc rules, it still counts as -1 point for werdum), pretty sure it was a clear overeem win.
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                                                      • rocky mattioli
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-26-10
                                                        • 1263

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Jordan23
                                                        Well I believe if Werdum wasn't laying down half the fight then Overeem would have gotten the knockout. Werdum did what he had to do to survive I guess

                                                        looked from here like werdum easily got the best of pretty much every striking exchange.....and there were more than a few...overeem looked like he was fighting under water...he`s slow....and ponderous...

                                                        has anybody checked this unbeatable monster`s recent winning streak?....

                                                        todd duffee/brett rogers/fujita/james thompson/tony sylvester/gary goodridge/a no contest with mirko/mark hunt/tae hyun lee/paul buentello.....
                                                        and people make fun of fedor`s record?.....

                                                        if not for the flopping,overeem very easily loses....

                                                        now we know why this guy needs pharmacological help........he had real trouble beating the top dogs at 205 in pride....

                                                        exposed....he should stay the hell away from the ufc(certainly as far away from velasquez and dos santos as possible)......
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                                                        • lasker
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                                                          • 01-27-10
                                                          • 1683

                                                          #29
                                                          If Werdum would have kept it standing the whole fight it was a matter of time before he would have been knocked out, and he knew it. He was surviving.
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                                                          • snake11eyes
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-28-10
                                                            • 618

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                            if not for the flopping,overeem very easily loses....
                                                            No way this happens. Even if Reem looked slow. Werdum could not win a stand up fight and he knew it.


                                                            Originally posted by lasker
                                                            If Werdum would have kept it standing the whole fight it was a matter of time before he would have been knocked out, and he knew it. He was surviving.
                                                            Exactly. If Werdum thinks he was winning the standup why did he keep falling to guard.
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                                                            • NickDiaz209
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                                                              • 05-22-11
                                                              • 438

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bogbat
                                                              I thought Werdum won the 3rd round. Very uninspiring fight by Overeem, I think Werdum threw him off his game by pulling guard over and over.
                                                              totally agree overeem was frustrated but hes better than his performance tonight...i thought the fight couldve gone either way. I never thought in a million years id see ubereem win a fight by lay n pray
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                                                              • GoldRush7
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                                                                • 04-27-09
                                                                • 2014

                                                                #32
                                                                Werdum landed some shots. I thought it was kind of funny when they asked overeem if he got hurt by any of them and it it took him like 8 breaths to say "no"....
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                                                                • NickDiaz209
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 05-22-11
                                                                  • 438

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by GoldRush7
                                                                  Werdum landed some shots. I thought it was kind of funny when they asked overeem if he got hurt by any of them and it it took him like 8 breaths to say "no"....
                                                                  being gassed and being hurt are 2 different things even though both can make u look pathetic
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