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  • Educ8d Degener8
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    • 01-12-10
    • 3177

    #1
    Cain vs JDS odds up...


    UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez (9-0 MMA, 7-0 UFC) has been tapped the favorite over top contender Junior Dos Santos (12-1 MMA, 6-0 UFC).

    Granted, the duo hasn't officially been booked for an upcoming card, though UFC president Dana White has targeted the heavyweight blockbuster for an October or November event, possibly UFC 136 in Houston.

    But noted MMA Oddsmaker Joey Oddessa has set a line of -150 for the champ Velasquez and +120 for challenger Dos Santos.

    That means a $150 bet on Velasquez would earn you $100 in winnings. Conversely, a $100 bet on Dos Santos would get you $120 in winnings. Therefore, Oddessa is giving Velasquez an approximate 60 percent chance of winning; Velasquez has a 45 percent chance. (Due to the nature of the sports betting and the house's take, the numbers don't equal 100 percent.)

    Oddessa said the line likely will continue to widen as the fall fight approaches.

    "I saw a few sportsbooks open the first number on Saturday night," he told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "As a bettor, I would have liked to bet a reasonable-sized wager on Velasquez at -105, but limits were low.

    "It's very likely Velasquez is at least -185 by fight night. The irony is everyone lined up to bet (Shane) Carwin over Dos Santos last weekend, and now they are zigzagging after a dominant performance against Carwin."

    Dos Santos, of course, defeated Carwin in this past weekend's UFC 131 main event. The victory, which earned Dos Santos the title shot, came via lopsided scores of 30-27, 30-27 and 30-26 following a dominant first round that left his opponent bruised and bloodied.

    But as impressive as Dos Santos was – and as durable as Carwin proved – Oddessa expects a sizable step up in competition against Velasquez.

    "With all respect to Carwin, who is a top-five heavyweight in the UFC, Cain is not Shane," he said. "The differences in the wrestling and head movement and speed are so glaringly obvious to me that I can't in good conscience open Junior or anyone in MMA as a favorite over Cain – in the nutshell – because I like money."

    I like the opener on Cain... Bookmaker is listed at -120 right now...
  • Kaladarus
    SBR MVP
    • 11-11-09
    • 1876

    #2
    I would love to hit the Velasquez line hard, but I won't until a date is announced. Last time I played him for a very large play and I had my money locked for over 6 months.
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    • Go4theJugular
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      • 06-09-11
      • 119

      #3
      Gonna be a lot of unhappy losers after betting on brown pride
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      • sirchadwick1
        SBR MVP
        • 06-02-10
        • 1375

        #4
        I went ahead and threw 2u on JDS at +105... plan on going bigger, but I'll wait seeing as how it's still 4 months out and everyone seems to be on Cain. I'm assuming everyone thinks Cain will be able to easily get JDS to the ground and his cardio will push him through the championship rounds. I think JDS is better on his feet and his TDD and resilience will win him the fight. Hard to say he'll get the TKO, but unless he gasses out in the final rounds I don't see Cain working and dropping him like he did Brock. Maybe we can get JDS at around +130 or so nearing the fight. I think there is still a little steam surrounding him after the way he outclassed Carwin so that's probably why he opened as the fav.

        EDIT: JDS is +130 right now at bodog.
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        • NickBaragona
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-29-09
          • 555

          #5
          Just put $135 on Cain to win $100.
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          • Straight Cash
            SBR MVP
            • 11-20-09
            • 2202

            #6
            I'm thinking this will be a pick em at fight time.
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            • rocky mattioli
              SBR MVP
              • 08-26-10
              • 1263

              #7
              Originally posted by Straight Cash
              I'm thinking this will be a pick em at fight time.

              at least...i`m expecting the odds to flip and dos santos to be the fave......that`s why i grabbed some dos santos at +140 at sportsbook.....i can always tinker a little as the odds change....
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              • GoldRush7
                SBR MVP
                • 04-27-09
                • 2014

                #8
                I'm leaving JDS right now just because there is still a lot of unknown with cain's layoff and shoulder injury recovery
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                • Chairib
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-08-10
                  • 917

                  #9
                  lol you can always count on Joey Bagels for a good line or two
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                  • phillybadboy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-11-09
                    • 9383

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Go4theJugular
                    Gonna be a lot of unhappy losers after betting on brown pride
                    both of them are brown, clown
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                    • omalley21
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-08-10
                      • 908

                      #11
                      Cain will be the favorite. around -200 or so. He will destroy JDS.
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                      • Go4theJugular
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                        • 06-09-11
                        • 119

                        #12
                        Originally posted by phillybadboy
                        both of them are brown, clown
                        One of them has brown pride tattooed on his chest...kill yourself
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                        • Go4theJugular
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                          • 06-09-11
                          • 119

                          #13
                          Originally posted by omalley21
                          Cain will be the favorite. around -200 or so. He will destroy JDS.
                          I would bet a billion dollars that pillow fists doesn't destroy anyone...he might eek out a decision if you're lucky
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                          • sirchadwick1
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-02-10
                            • 1375

                            #14
                            I don't see how anyone can say either guy will destroy the other. But if you want to go there... I could definitely see JDS KOing Cain, whereas I can only see Cain winning by decision.
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                            • Go4theJugular
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                              • 06-09-11
                              • 119

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                              I don't see how anyone can say either guy will destroy the other. But if you want to go there... I could definitely see JDS KOing Cain, whereas I can only see Cain winning by decision.

                              Oh my God, a guy who isn't completely useless like the rest of you fukks who think Cain is a mortal lock
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                              • Pabinator
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-04-09
                                • 1238

                                #16
                                If Cain didnt have such a long lay off, & was recently coming off the Brock fight, I think he'd be favored by more than that. But It should be a close fight
                                Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                                • sirchadwick1
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-02-10
                                  • 1375

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Go4theJugular
                                  Oh my God, a guy who isn't completely useless like the rest of you fukks who think Cain is a mortal lock
                                  Haha.... you officially just gave away that you're the old Pride>UFC guy.
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                                  • Go4theJugular
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 06-09-11
                                    • 119

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                    Haha.... you officially just gave away that you're the old Pride>UFC guy.
                                    Haha everyone already knew that, but what exactly in the last post gave it away? I hardly ever use the word "fukks"

                                    Don't worry I'll go back to NickDiaz209 in a few weeks
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                                    • sirchadwick1
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-02-10
                                      • 1375

                                      #19
                                      I don't know of anyone else around here... or anywhere that spells it fukks, fukkin, or fukk me but you. That gave it away easily. Plus you're like the numero uno troll around here. Easy to spot under any acct.
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                                      • Go4theJugular
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 06-09-11
                                        • 119

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                        I don't know of anyone else around here... or anywhere that spells it fukks, fukkin, or fukk me but you. That gave it away easily. Plus you're like the numero uno troll around here. Easy to spot under any acct.
                                        well I got that from the NBA section...that's how everyone spells it over there...it is censored if you spell it right
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                                        • phillybadboy
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-11-09
                                          • 9383

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Go4theJugular
                                          well I got that from the NBA section...that's how everyone spells it over there...it is censored if you spell it right
                                          dude you runnin your mouth like a dumb azz and can't even pot any winners
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                                          • urge2kill
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-27-09
                                            • 1722

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                            I don't know of anyone else around here... or anywhere that spells it fukks, fukkin, or fukk me but you. That gave it away easily. Plus you're like the numero uno troll around here. Easy to spot under any acct.
                                            You what what really gave it away? When he confirmed he was pride/nickdiaz the other day.
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                                            • phillybadboy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-11-09
                                              • 9383

                                              #23
                                              whats th point of changing names?
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                                              • sirchadwick1
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-02-10
                                                • 1375

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by urge2kill
                                                You what what really gave it away? When he confirmed he was pride/nickdiaz the other day.
                                                LOL, shame on me for not keeping up with every post of his.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by phillybadboy
                                                  whats th point of changing names?
                                                  Allows multiple trolling accounts in case one gets suspended!
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                                                  • jin2daj
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-01-09
                                                    • 816

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Kaladarus
                                                    I would love to hit the Velasquez line hard, but I won't until a date is announced. Last time I played him for a very large play and I had my money locked for over 6 months.
                                                    agreed. having your money tied up for so long just isnt smart.

                                                    i hope the lines open around a pick-em though. i havent made my pick but if one opens as a favorite thats going to affect my choice.
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                                                    • phillybadboy
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-11-09
                                                      • 9383

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                      Allows multiple trolling accounts in case one gets suspended!
                                                      oh lol, i forgot about syuspensions, good idea if you enjoy that
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                                                      • NickDiaz209
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 05-22-11
                                                        • 438

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by phillybadboy
                                                        dude you runnin your mouth like a dumb azz and can't even pot any winners
                                                        really? I didn't pick ken flo jds or munoz? because the money in my account and previous posts say I did. meanwhile your dumbass just lost ur savings betting on lebron james
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                                                        • phillybadboy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-11-09
                                                          • 9383

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by NickDiaz209
                                                          really? I didn't pick ken flo jds or munoz? because the money in my account and previous posts say I did. meanwhile your dumbass just lost ur savings betting on lebron james
                                                          i went 3-0 in mma dumb azz, keep betting those -300 faves clown
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                                                          • phillybadboy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-11-09
                                                            • 9383

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by NickDiaz209
                                                            really? I didn't pick ken flo jds or munoz? because the money in my account and previous posts say I did. meanwhile your dumbass just lost ur savings betting on lebron james
                                                            who knows what you picked, you have multiple accounts, probably picking both sides, dumazz
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                                                            • bogbat
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-21-10
                                                              • 1843

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by phillybadboy
                                                              who knows what you picked, you have multiple accounts, probably picking both sides, dumazz
                                                              lol this is true

                                                              He's picked the wrong side many times in his threads claiming x fighter is a can is going to get destroyed.

                                                              How is he not banned already for having multiple accounts?
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                                                              • NickDiaz209
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 05-22-11
                                                                • 438

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by phillybadboy
                                                                i went 3-0 in mma dumb azz, keep betting those -300 faves clown
                                                                Really I never said Munoz would win? I never started a thread claiming Carwin would get embarrassed? And those were -300 favorites right?

                                                                Ken Flo was -280, I'll give u that, but this was a lock so get over it
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                                                                • NickDiaz209
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 05-22-11
                                                                  • 438

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by phillybadboy
                                                                  i went 3-0 in mma dumb azz, keep betting those -300 faves clown
                                                                  So you didn't bet on the Heat two days ago? Did u or did you not? Exactly...good call
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                                                                  • Varker
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 04-03-10
                                                                    • 283

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I think JDS wins via superior boxing, but Cain is gonna be tough to break.
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                                                                    • Go4theJugular
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 06-09-11
                                                                      • 119

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Varker
                                                                      I think JDS wins via superior boxing, but Cain is gonna be tough to break.
                                                                      I just can't wait for this fight...I have a boner right now just thinking about it
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