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  • Jordan23
    SBR MVP
    • 04-26-10
    • 1227

    #1
    Just put 6 units on Browne
    I normally don't let anybody "talk" me into a bet. I was reluctant to make this bet at first. But the more and more I read and the more I break it down I decided to just say F it and I put 6 units on Browne straight up. I wish I would have been able to get him as an underdog but I wasn't ready to pull the trigger then.

    I think Browne is going to take it to Struve no question about it... But here are some things I think that could really work in Struve's favor.

    Every time we see him he is bigger and bigger. He is putting on muscle and eventually is going to cut weight to make 265. Could this be the fight where he finally weighs in at 265? It remains to be seen. But while size may hinder other fighters I believe size is only going to help him.

    He has good and improving striking. While he is very hitable he is only going to get better with his striking each and every time out. He trains with Bob Schreiber... While Bob was never a great MMA fighter he sure as hell can teach striking and knows his kickboxing.

    Struve is very long so if Browne decides to go for a takedown (which I believe he will at some point in the fight), or if Browne drops him and follows up Struve's long limbs could help secure a submission.

    The only 2 people who Struve has lost to while in the UFC are both top 10 ranked heavyweights. Dos Santos and Nelson.

    I believe Struve will be a top 10 heavyweight someday. Especially if he works on his wrestling and wrestling defense... But too many people are really liking Browne and the line swing is no lie.

    So there you have it folks! 6 units on Browne!

    WAR BROWNE!

  • rocky mattioli
    SBR MVP
    • 08-26-10
    • 1263

    #2
    Originally posted by Jordan23
    I normally don't let anybody "talk" me into a bet. I was reluctant to make this bet at first. But the more and more I read and the more I break it down I decided to just say F it and I put 6 units on Browne straight up. I wish I would have been able to get him as an underdog but I wasn't ready to pull the trigger then.

    I think Browne is going to take it to Struve no question about it... But here are some things I think that could really work in Struve's favor.

    Every time we see him he is bigger and bigger. He is putting on muscle and eventually is going to cut weight to make 265. Could this be the fight where he finally weighs in at 265? It remains to be seen. But while size may hinder other fighters I believe size is only going to help him.

    He has good and improving striking. While he is very hitable he is only going to get better with his striking each and every time out. He trains with Bob Schreiber... While Bob was never a great MMA fighter he sure as hell can teach striking and knows his kickboxing.

    Struve is very long so if Browne decides to go for a takedown (which I believe he will at some point in the fight), or if Browne drops him and follows up Struve's long limbs could help secure a submission.

    The only 2 people who Struve has lost to while in the UFC are both top 10 ranked heavyweights. Dos Santos and Nelson.

    I believe Struve will be a top 10 heavyweight someday. Especially if he works on his wrestling and wrestling defense... But too many people are really liking Browne and the line swing is no lie.

    So there you have it folks! 6 units on Browne!

    WAR BROWNE!


    i enjoyed reading this....well done...lot of guys on browne....and if it`s a quick finish,it`ll probably be browne....

    but i really think many are sleeping on struve...he started fighting professionally as a "just turned 17" y.o. beanpole........

    i can see why people are liking browne...he`s a balls to the wall, full on/full bore offensive fighter....and struve has serious defensive liabilities..

    struve may still lack a bit of power...and he could utilize his height much better than he does...

    i think he can be overwhelmed,particularly early...and that`s what browne does best...

    but if this somehow gets out of the first,the worm could turn a bit...because struve is also verrrry resilient...theres not an ounce of quit in the kid.....and he`s more well rounded than browne,imo...it will be by far browne`s toughest test,imo(i am one of those guys that thinks cheick kongo is one of theee most overrated fighters in the ufc....if you check his record,he`s been mostly matched with other one dimensional guys...peripheral guys....and he`s struggles with some of them... he`s failed badly when he stepped up in competition...i think his body builder physique and persona exceed his mma ability).....

    this fight really piques my interest....i`m praying for props in this one...

    again,nice write-up....i mostly agree(except i don`t feel comfortable placing a large wager on either guy)......

    ...
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    • Dave--M
      SBR Hustler
      • 05-14-11
      • 73

      #3
      what is 6 units in real money
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      • Ladle
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-21-11
        • 835

        #4
        Good analysis all around. I think Browne matches up very favourably here, and I have money on him, but it's still a perfectly winnable fight for The Skyscraper. It's feasible that Browne could get caught in a submission as he tries to pound out Struve, or even knocked out in a similar fashion to Morecraft during a wild exchange (Browne has a good chin, but he doesn't take many precautions to cover himself when throwing punches).
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        • Jordan23
          SBR MVP
          • 04-26-10
          • 1227

          #5
          Originally posted by Ladle
          Good analysis all around. I think Browne matches up very favourably here, and I have money on him, but it's still a perfectly winnable fight for The Skyscraper. It's feasible that Browne could get caught in a submission as he tries to pound out Struve, or even knocked out in a similar fashion to Morecraft during a wild exchange (Browne has a good chin, but he doesn't take many precautions to cover himself when throwing punches).
          I agree. I have a feeling we're going to see quite a few wild exchanges in this fight. Either way I am very much looking forward to this fight.
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          • rocky mattioli
            SBR MVP
            • 08-26-10
            • 1263

            #6
            "doesn`t go the distance" was a little over -300....and with good reason,imo....parlay material...maybe with glen johnson/froch goes the distance.....at almost even odds,,,

            silva/leben doesn`t go the distance was around-130...that seems reasonable...no fancy dancers here...matter of fact the probablity of all kninds of rough stuff is quite high(headbutts etc) given the lefty vs righty situation...
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            • RaiderNation MMA
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-05-10
              • 598

              #7
              lol i liked how u said u were putting 6 units on browne, then went on to talk about struve for the next couple paragraps
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              • v1y
                SBR MVP
                • 05-02-11
                • 1138

                #8
                Originally posted by RaiderNation MMA
                lol i liked how u said u were putting 6 units on browne, then went on to talk about struve for the next couple paragraps
                Honestly, I've had more success betting against fighters than betting on fighters.
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                • bogbat
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-21-10
                  • 1843

                  #9
                  For me this is one those fights I feel could go either way and if I can get either as a decent underdog I'd put a unit on them. So seeing that its too late to get Browne as a dog I'll put a unit on Struve if I can get him at +140 or better.
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                  • Poppa Catfish
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-10
                    • 3352

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bogbat
                    For me this is one those fights I feel could go either way and if I can get either as a decent underdog I'd put a unit on them. So seeing that its too late to get Browne as a dog I'll put a unit on Struve if I can get him at +140 or better.
                    I feel the same way as you do, probably will end up as a no play.
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                    • NunyaBidness
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-26-09
                      • 9345

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dave--M
                      what is 6 units in real money
                      It doesn't matter. That's the point.
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                      • RaiderNation MMA
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-05-10
                        • 598

                        #12
                        Originally posted by v1y
                        Honestly, I've had more success betting against fighters than betting on fighters.
                        i am mind bottled, but i understand i think
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                        • Straight Cash
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-20-09
                          • 2202

                          #13
                          This is a tossup fight IMO. Struve does have a habit of digging himself into a hole early in fights though.
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                          • NickDiaz209
                            Restricted User
                            • 05-22-11
                            • 438

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                            It doesn't matter. That's the point.
                            6% of his bankroll
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                            • NickDiaz209
                              Restricted User
                              • 05-22-11
                              • 438

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RaiderNation MMA
                              i am mind bottled, but i understand i think
                              Everyone has had more success betting against the Raiders than betting on them
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                              • Poppa Catfish
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-22-10
                                • 3352

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NickDiaz209
                                Everyone has had more success betting against the Raiders than betting on them
                                Fun fact: Raiders were 8-8 against the spread and 8-8 over all last season


                                In short, you fail.
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                                • RaiderNation MMA
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-05-10
                                  • 598

                                  #17
                                  how u gonna rep 209 and nor cal and diss the raiders!!!
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                                  • GunShard
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-05-10
                                    • 10031

                                    #18
                                    Struve has the reach advantage.
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                                    • Varker
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 04-03-10
                                      • 283

                                      #19
                                      good luck, this fight should be interesting.
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by GunShard
                                        Struve has the reach advantage.
                                        And? He's going to have the reach advantage against everybody! It means nothing if you don't know how to use it...I'm sure Yao Ming would have a reach advantage if you put him in a cage with Cain Velasquez
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                                        • Poppa Catfish
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-22-10
                                          • 3352

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                          And? He's going to have the reach advantage against everybody! It means nothing if you don't know how to use it...I'm sure Yao Ming would have a reach advantage if you put him in a cage with Cain Velasquez
                                          No you ******* imbecile, what part did you not understand about his post.

                                          HE

                                          HAS


                                          REACH


                                          ADVANTAGE!

                                          Game over, my man.
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #22


                                            Did anybody mention that he is also realllly realllly TALL!
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                                            • Poppa Catfish
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-22-10
                                              • 3352

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Vaughany


                                              Did anybody mention that he is also realllly realllly TALL!


                                              the only to combat this is by being black, being motivated, fighting outside the UFC, or changing to Jackson's camp
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                                              • Poppa Catfish
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-10
                                                • 3352

                                                #24
                                                oh missed one, fighting against GSP. Because no matter how little of a chance you have of beating him, god I hate that fucker, so I'm going to say that the other guy has value. After 14 or so of them lose, maybe one of them will win, and boom there is your value.
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                                                • NunyaBidness
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                  • 9345

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Poppa Catfish


                                                  the only to combat this is by being black, being motivated, fighting outside the UFC, or changing to Jackson's camp
                                                  By black do you mean "Explosive"?
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #26
                                                    Black fighters have the double bonus of being explosive and being impossible to cut.
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                                                    • NunyaBidness
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-26-09
                                                      • 9345

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                      Black fighters have the double bonus of being explosive and being impossible to cut.
                                                      With the exception being Marvin Eastman, who was neither.
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                                                      • Jordan23
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-26-10
                                                        • 1227

                                                        #28
                                                        2 more days guys! I'm just as excited about this fight as I am the main event (then again that's not saying much).
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                                                        • Poppa Catfish
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-22-10
                                                          • 3352

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                          Black fighters have the double bonus of being explosive and being impossible to cut.


                                                          These are all really solid angles, and certainly not just lazy handicapping.
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                                                          • NunyaBidness
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-26-09
                                                            • 9345

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jordan23
                                                            2 more days guys! I'm just as excited about this fight as I am the main event (then again that's not saying much).
                                                            I'm super excited about this card, not sure why its getting no love. Mighty Mouse vs Torres as a WEC headliner would've had me excited for weeks. Every fight on the main card is competitive and interesting. I can't wait, and then follow it up with the worst Dream card ever, I'm sold!
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                                                            • rocky mattioli
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-26-10
                                                              • 1263

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                              Black fighters have the double bonus of being explosive and being impossible to cut.
                                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTDeOPFr9e4
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                                                              • RaiderNation MMA
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-05-10
                                                                • 598

                                                                #32
                                                                lol yao ming
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